ST Adam Driver (Kylo Ren) in Episode VII

Agree with the first half of your post, you nailed it. The heavy footed walk is something I have naturally as I have broad shoulders and am built. When done naturally you do command a presence about yourself. It does have an aloofness, pain, and a guarded depression about it. I learned this walk naturally from an imposing man I had as a headmaster while I was at boarding school. He was 6'6 and commanded respect. As I was around him a lot, I imitated and picked up some of his mannerisms. I think Adam was obviously going for intensity.

 

Yes.
Padme = Lotus
Ren = Lotus
Vader cult
Vader = Skywalker
Kylo
Ren
I don't see anything complicated about any of it.
Next time I'll just post a gif of a CGI creature farting in Jar Jar's face

 

I think he walks like he's angry/on a mission. I love it.

Not really seeing how this could possibly be "comical"

 

Funny you should mention that the walk is like he has crapped in his pants...

Because I swear that I've seen Harrison Ford's walking and running described the exact same way. Those very words.

Combined with what Kylo's last name probably is...

 

I have a theory that Kylo Ren kills Luke Skywalker at some point in The Force Awakens based on number of shots from the Trailers:

In this shot we have a hooded figure (presumably Luke) placing his hand on R2-D2 while sitting next to something fire pit, I believe these Luke's final moments before being killed by Kylo Ren.

In this scene we have stormtroopers occupying a what appears to be a village and one trooper burning it down with a flamethrower. In the background you can see natural fire pits that I don't believe are caused by the stormtroopers with flamethrowers.

The next shot is Kylo Ren swinging down his lightsaber on unknown character, the scene itself looks like a execution and I believe this is the moment Luke Skywalker is killed as he is cut down by Kylo Ren. There is a strong level of emphasis placed in this scene because it appears in every trailer and tv spot released so far, so it must have a great importance to the overall story and just some random kill.

And then there is this group shot of who we assume are the Knights of Ren, if you look closely at Kylo Ren's left hand it appears he's holding something that looks a lot like a lightsaber which I believe is Luke's green lightsaber from Return of the Jedi.

Finally, in this brief scene Kylo Ren states "I will finish what you started" and the next scene opens with a shot of Darth Vader's burned helmet. Everyone's assuming he talking about Darth Vader, but I believe he's talking about or speaking directly to Luke Skywalker. Both Palpatine and Darth Vader more or less completed their primary objectives after the end of Revenge of the Sith: The Destruction of the Jedi Order and complete Domination of the Galaxy. Luke, Leia and Han's actions in the Original Trilogy led to the crippling of the Imperial Empire and the foundation of the New Republic, but it left a huge power vacuum for young upstarts like Kylo Ren and the First Order to fill in.

Overall, based on the scenes I've complied I concluded that Luke is either captured by the First Order or dies at some point in the new film, which would mean that his scenes in the Episode VIII are either flashbacks or as a Force Ghost. If Darth Vader is the God figure of the Knights of Ren then Luke Skywalker is the equivalent of Satan, and the pieces of dialogue from the force awakens toys () such as "Together we will destroy the Resistance and the last Jedi" pretty much confirm that Kylo Ren's primary objective is hunting down Luke Skywalker.

 

Lots of things in Kylo could come off as comical. So far, I don't think they seem any comical. From the little I've seen, it looks like Adam is doing a fantastic job with a character that is not that easy.

 

ComicCorp89 Wow. 2+2=453.

I find your reasoning...... Inadequate.

 

And I find your response . . . unexceptional

 

Swinging down the saber is probably the scene where he kills Max Von Sydow's character on Jakku.

The scene with Luke is a flashback and so is the scene with the Knights of Ren.

The KoR scene has them killing the "clan" and getting Anakin's lightsaber but losing it somehow iirc.

The Luke scene is him finding his dead padawans iirc.

 

Great GIF, of course, but seriously.... Wtf? Nothing you posted supports what you posit as a conclusion. Is it possible? Sure. I've actually been considering the possibility that we only ever see Luke as a Force Ghost for some time, but nothing you posted really leads to that conclusion. It would be a very risky move for LFL too. I can't imagine the death (even if it doesn't mark The End) of the Saga greatest hero would be handled off-screen, or in a flashback. If they do that, it COULD work, but it would be a huge risk, IMO.

 

They only joined today, take it easy.

They haven't seen what we've seen...

 

That's possible as well, but there's been no official information released that suggests that Luke started a new Jedi Order besides rumors (MakingStarWars.com). Luke might of had few padawans, one of them being Kylo Ren, I don't think he had enough time to build a fully functional new Jedi Order.

 

Calm down I said it was a theory, I never said it was true. As for killing off Luke, it wouldn't be as huge a risk as you think, not nearly as much as Darth Jar Jar Binks. Plus the whole theme of the apprentice slaying the master repeats throughout the Star Wars saga and wouldn't be surprising at the least, that's assuming Kylo Ren was Luke former apprentice. Maybe a huge risk is exactly what this new trilogy needs to set it apart from the Original Trilogy and the Prequels.

 

Now all you need is this playing in the background, and you've got your very own crazy conspiracy theory video!

 

Imperials wiping out people, even unarmed civilians was pretty common(Jawas and the Lars family where shot and latter apparently torched), they usually do not like leaving survivors during a siege or to cover up a mess or both. Sith or Dark Jedi characters slaughtering people , whether armed or unarmed is just a means to an end for them, as they gain power in the Dark Side by the slaughtering. Anakin did that first with the Sand People and then with the unarmed younglings. Maul and Savage did it during their Massacre on Raydonia . And Ventress tries to teach Vos how to gain power of the Dark Side by murder in DD.

I mean its also possible the New Order has a diplomatic voice in the New Republic and false treaties, where its not unlike the Separatists/Trade Federation and the Republic of the PT or some of the stuff in the old EU.

 

Hey, since we're posting nonsensical conspiracies, can I post my favourite?

 

ComicCorp89 I cannot rule this out as well and that Luke might be killed or captured in these scenes. At least the lightsaber that Kylo is holding in his hand is indeed Luke's green one, so how did he get it?

 

Given everything that we've been told about Kylo, I don't even think that he'd be powerful/capable enough to kill Luke at this point. Could he maybe pull it off in a future film, sure. But not now.

 

I really doubt that JJ and company are ballsy enough to have Kylo Ren kill off Luke Skywalker in the first movie of the ST. Especially considering Luke should essentially be a fully developed, Jedi Master version of Anakin at this point. His powers should be equal to or beyond those of Yoda IMO. I'm sure Kylo will be plenty skilled himself, but it's a little much to think he will be anywhere near Luke at the time of TFA. Perhaps Snoke will be Luke's equal, but not Kylo. Not yet, anyways.

 

My personal theory right now is that he wears it both as a means of intimidation/striking fear into people, and as a kind of "tribute" to Vader.

 

Yeah Snoke is the big question mark here. I could maybe be made to buy him being powerful enough to kill Luke, depending on where they go with him.

 

Precisely my thoughts.

 

He's not holding anything in his left hand... That's just the lightning reflecting off the fabric of his glove and sleeve

 

Yep, I think he is not holding anything. People are getting confused because the waves on Kylo's arm might look like the lines on Luke's saber. But that is just because of the lighting.

 

I'm not convinced that the new script treatments they'd have Luke be killed off in the first movie. Harrison always wanted Solo to die, so the odds are more in favor of that, but Ford may not have the luxury he once had as he's not a young man with lots of parts coming his way as he once had. But Solo still seems likely, Chewie was OKed by Lucas to be killed off in the EU, so Chewie is possible. I think they'd run into to much flak being that Luke was not even on any of the covers/posters and they're trying to keep him under wraps. His big reveal I would imagine to come at the end of the movie and have some sorta showdown with the villains or alternatively his part is more like Obi-Wan's of a ANH and Yoda of ESB, where they just basically meet him, unfortunately both Kenobi and Yoda had very little screen time and both died, one allowed himself to be killed to save Luke, but was at advanced age and the other died of old age - neither one really gave Luke a thorough training of a Padawan of the PT era.

Kylo could be a Dessan-like character. But what do we know about these "Knights of Ren", did Kylo form them, or did he just fall in with some Grand Master and worked his way to the top cause he was the most powerful. Snoke appears to be the one that lured Kylo, maybe Kylo follows formula, he was a good guy and Resistance hero and son of Solo and Leia, that was captured and tempted to the Dark Side, or maybe there was always something wrong with him with a head full of bad wiring like Anakin. Or maybe there is no relations at all to the Skywalker family, but I think that probably not likely.