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ST Adam Driver (Kylo Ren) in Episode VII

Discussion in 'Sequel Trilogy' started by Momotaros, May 2, 2014.

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  1. KissMeImARebel

    KissMeImARebel Force Ghost star 5

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    I was surprised by how much I liked Kylo. Driver's performance was great. He was imposing in the mask but when he took it off I found him to be sympathetic. I didn't expect him to be so conflicted. I realize there's an (annoying) trend lately to woobie-ize villains, but I can't help it when the film does it for me: I felt bad for him and I'm hoping for redemption. I want to punch Snoke in the face for screwing up this kid's mind.
     
  2. Holiday Special

    Holiday Special Jedi Youngling

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    Totally fascinating character. I can't get him out of my head to the point where I am having a hard time sleeping--didn't see that coming.
     
  3. Luke02

    Luke02 Chosen One star 6

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    Outside of going out like a punk in the end (I thought that was just bad writing by JJ and crew) I like Kylo and thought Driver did a great job. He almost has think Joker quality ready to come out like this guy ain't all there. I like how he had zero control unlike Vader.
     
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  4. Eric Hines

    Eric Hines Jedi Padawan

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    "....not an expert lightsaber duelist because he hasn't had the need to be one yet..."

    What about when he went up against, and destroyed, his fellow Padawans? I thought it was silly that he killed all the force sensitives who at least had some training under Luke but had issues against Rey who only hours earlier realized she was force sensitive. Ok so you say she called out to the force to empower her? Why didn't Kylo? He's at least been trained in the force!
     
  5. Drewton

    Drewton Jedi Grand Master star 4

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    He reminded of Bane a lot of the time.

    I like how he crouched down talking to people in a very unusual way.
     
  6. dekaneas

    dekaneas Jedi Master star 3

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    Indeed his performance is superb,best in all SW movies.


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  7. Dak Oolron

    Dak Oolron Jedi Knight star 3

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    Driver/Kylo were the best character of the movie. At certain points I felt he captured the essence of Anakin without the parts that pissed everyone off in the PT. Superb.
     
  8. transfo47

    transfo47 Jedi Youngling

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    Maybe it's just me on this but as soon as Kylo took off the mask, I couldn't take him seriously anymore, kinda like PT Ani.
     
  9. a2dmusic

    a2dmusic Jedi Master star 4

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    On paper, I could see why you'd say that/agree with you. In execution... well, to me it was the difference in acting and directing making a HUGE difference.
     
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  10. thejeditraitor

    thejeditraitor Chosen One star 6

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    it's you. people have said he takes off the mask too much. he took it off twice! once to reveal what he looked like to rey and the audience and once more to confront his father.
     
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  11. Dra---

    Dra--- Force Ghost star 6

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    I know Kylo Ren was a great villain because I hate him. For what he did to Han, but also Lor San Tekka.

    I wonder why he hates his family so much? I got the sense that he thinks he deserves praise just because he's a Skywalker. He's a real spoiled jerk.

    I can't wait to see Rey school him again.
     
  12. light_sabe_r

    light_sabe_r Jedi Grand Master star 4

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    I liked him. The similarities to Anakin once turned were striking. he looked like Han, and he looked like Leia. I could see Shmi in him too. But he reminded me so much of Anakin. Wow.

    Anakin turned for love... so what made Kylo turn? Fear? Fear of himself?
     
  13. Dra---

    Dra--- Force Ghost star 6

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    He thinks he deserves to rule the galaxy. I bet Snoke told him how special he was and selfish Kylo turned in a drop.
     
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  14. Drewton

    Drewton Jedi Grand Master star 4

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    Ben being manipulated by Snoke to believe its his destiny and that Anakin failed in realizing his destiny? Maybe a twisted version of the prophecy?

    The skull of Vader is now all the family he has left...
     
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  15. Kantz

    Kantz Jedi Knight star 2

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    I think, as Han said, Snoke has been majorly manipulating Kylo. Something may have set him off but Snoke ensured he went further into the dark. Kylo said to the vader mask, "show me again the power of the dark side."(paraphrasing) I believe that snoke fooled Kylo by creating a fake force vision or something of his grandfather. Really messing with his head.
     
  16. Dra---

    Dra--- Force Ghost star 6

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    Yeah, there's definitely more story here that will eventually be revealed.

    I think part of it is when you grow up with famous parents, it's really hard to live in their shadow. As we can see in Kylo's fight with Rey, he's not really as powerful as he likes to think.

    That was also amazing how he kept hitting his wound to keep fighting. That was a great character moment.
     
  17. Kantz

    Kantz Jedi Knight star 2

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    Also, mark my words. We will see the ghost of Anakin in either VIII or IX. Kylo Ren=Hamlet. It is going to happen.
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  18. Jango_Fett21

    Jango_Fett21 Jedi Grand Master star 4

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    Kylo Ren was the best character in the movie, IMO, an honor he shares with Rey, and it's going to be very interesting to see where Rian Johnson takes his story. The only issue I had is that they kind of unnecessarily overplayed the idea that Han might be talking some sense into him.
     
  19. Jason79

    Jason79 Jedi Master star 3

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    So kylo isn't like whiny ass anakin with his Emo attitude and angsty teen temper tantrums?
     
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  20. Jonipoon

    Jonipoon Jedi Master star 4

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    Kylo Ren is definitely my favorite part of the ST so far. I want to know more about him.
     
  21. Drewton

    Drewton Jedi Grand Master star 4

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    A conversation with Anakin post-redemption played by Hayden Christensen would be fascinating to watch.
     
  22. Wellinever

    Wellinever Jedi Youngling star 1

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    Got to say after a nights sleep.

    I really like sKYwalker soLO thought it was all very well done.
     
  23. unicron5

    unicron5 Jedi Grand Master star 3

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    I think he should have gone a little "crazier/unhinged" after killing Han. I understand they couldn't make him seem too crazy before that because the audience has to believe there's a chance he could turn back to the good side for drama sake, but after Han is dead, I think they kinda missed an opportunity to ramp up the crazy.

    Like I dunno maybe he could've taken the blood from his wound and smeared it all over his face in the final dual to try and intimidate Rey/Finn.
     
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  24. GregMcP

    GregMcP Force Ghost star 5

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    It's obviously a trait of the Skywalker family tree.
    Awesome with the Force, kinda whiney and insecure
     
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  25. Dra---

    Dra--- Force Ghost star 6

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    Actually Kylo throws multiple tantrums. Boy are they fun to watch.
     
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