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ST Adam Driver (Kylo Ren) in Episode VII

Discussion in 'Sequel Trilogy' started by Momotaros, May 2, 2014.

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  1. rowan_greenleaf

    rowan_greenleaf Jedi Master star 3

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  2. EHT

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  3. pupuce

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    Man this kid is really unstable. Similar to a mass murderer.

    I can see EP 8 getting tough to watch if they continue with his character like this.
     
  6. Poor Greedo

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    Something I noticed during my 2nd trip to the theater. When Kylo Ren removes his helmet during Rey's interrogation, he places it in a pile of rocks? dirt? or is it ash? Could it be Vaders last remains? We know he has the melted helmet, so it isn't that far fetched to think he could obtain more of the venerable Jedi/Sith. What if the substance he places his helmet on in Vaders mortal remains? That pile of gray rock/dirt seems out of place on a starship, doesn't it? Perhaps its dirt from the site of the massacre involving the KOR? I'm interested in your thoughts!
     
  7. Rodie

    Rodie Jedi Grand Master star 4

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    Kylo's main dark side strength seems to be mind-reading, and the way he just puts Rey to sleep with the wave of his hand. So maybe that's a big clue that he's the one who "wiped" her memories before she was dumped on Jakku. This could also explain his line to her "It's OK, I feel it, too." Which could mean that they have a prior mind-connection from when he entered her mind (and she his?) when she was 5.

    And if Kylo wiped her memory that could explain why Luke (if he's her mentor/father) couldn't reach out with the Force to find her. She had no "Force fingerprint" for a long time because Kylo effectively wiped her memory.

    From the beginning, Kylo has a feeling he knows Rey. "WHAT GIRL?" he shouts to his subordinate. He says "The girl I've heard so much about." He says "forget the droid, we have what we need." He interrogates Rey immediately rather than having subordinates try first like he did with Poe. He takes off his helmet for her--probably not a common occurrence. Later he offers to train her.

    If it wasn't Kylo who dropped Rey on Jakku, you kind of have to explain why Rey doesn't remember much of anything before from when she was 5. Clearly she doesn't because if she remembered that it was in fact her parents who dropped her off with that hideous Jakku guy, she would not be so eager to have them back in her life. Quite the opposite. She'd probably hold a bitter grudge against her parents. No, it seems like Rey just remembers some figure leaving her there and telling her "Stay here and your family will be back for you." There's no "family" in this instance, just a lie to keep her on that junkyard of a planet and out of Kylo's way. And Maz confirms this with a line that could be an allusion to Kylo himself: "The person you're wait for is not coming back (kylo not returning to the light), but there is someone who can...(Luke)."
    And remember she called "Come back!" so it was someone who showed her a modicum of kindness or saved her life even. That figure could very well be Ben Solo/Kylo Ren.
     
  8. StarKiller81

    StarKiller81 Jedi Master star 3

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  9. BigAl6ft6

    BigAl6ft6 Chosen One star 8

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    Dude, Matt straight up sucks

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  10. SateleNovelist11

    SateleNovelist11 Force Ghost star 6

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    During the first time I saw TFA, after Kylo Ren discovered that Rey had escaped and he ignited his lightsaber, I thought he was going to go hunting for her. I just didn't expect him to have those tantrums. Lol. I wonder if Hux and Snoke discussed the damage of his tantrums.
     
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  11. Obi-Wan Solo-Skywalker

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    Couldn't help but share Undercover Boss Kylo Ren behind the scenes.
    Even more hilarious than the skit.


    Some true gems.
    "Cry-Lo Ren" on the poster.
    Matt: "Have you seen him with the mask off? I hear his face is the best." =D=
    Matt's supervisor: "You got cousins here huh? You got cousins here that got you this job...?"
    Matt (about Hux's speech): "Some say that Kylo Ren's would have been better. He would have had music."

    Kylo Ren/:kylo: Adam Driver is the best!
     
  12. Blastaar

    Blastaar Jedi Grand Master star 4

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    THIS IS AMAZING LOL I love the FO gang shot. Phasma oozes coolness.
     
  13. jimmycrank

    jimmycrank Jedi Knight star 4

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    stolen from Reddit:

    Never in any established Canon, have we seen what Kylo Ren does with the Power of The Force. In KoTOR and the Bane Trilogy we have, but not in Canon.
    Kylo stops a laser beam IN MID FLIGHT. I'll say that again so it sticks. Kylo stops a laser beam, in mid air... Like Neo does with bullets....
    NEVER has this been done by ANY Force Wielder. Jedi nor Sith, not even Sidious.
    Kylo is on another level.
    But.... There's more, lol.
    Kylo uses a sort of advanced mind piercing technique that extracts actual memories and data.... Jesus. Vitiate did this to Revan in KoTOR, but in reverse lol. But again... KoTOR and The True Sith aren't Canon.... For now.
    Kylo does these force abilities at will and very non-chalantly. They're not difficult for him... Christ.
    Again, none of this has been done, in Canon by other Force Wielders... Never. Not Yoda. Not Sidious.
    Kylo is also a physical freak, he is a tank.
    Throughout the film, we are VERY blantantly shown just how lethal and kinetic Chewie's Crossbow is. It rag dolls fully armored storm troopers and One Hit Kills everyone.
    Until....
    It meets its match with Kylo Ren.
    Kylo Ren takes a direct gut shot, from an elevated position... From Chewies crossbow...
    Not only does it not rag doll him. But it barely has any "knock down" effect. It does cause substantial bleeding. But he gets right back up and begins to hunt....
    Kylo is a scary mother fluffer. There really is no other way to say it. He's very "Malgusesque".
    If Kylo had not been severely injured and bleeding out by Chewies shot, Rey and Finn. Would be D.E.A.D.
    Not doubt about it.
    A Powerful Sith he will become...
     
  14. StarKiller81

    StarKiller81 Jedi Master star 3

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    All that and a lot of people still can't get past him performing poorly in the saber fight though. They still made a mistake with how that worked out.
     
  15. jimmycrank

    jimmycrank Jedi Knight star 4

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    It very odd isn't it.....

    You can imagine though can't you....If Ren had destroyed them both (even after Rey gets connected with the Force) the very same people would be going "Kylo Ren is too overpowered, he took a bowcaster shot to the gut and it didn't do anything to him" blah blah blah
     
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  16. Darth Dementor

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    Took the words right out of my mouth. My fave is when Rey knocks outs Kylo LOL.
     
  17. BigAl6ft6

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    Undercover Boss Starkiller Base BTS for us non-Americans:

     
  18. Blastaar

    Blastaar Jedi Grand Master star 4

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    My only real issue is how one sided it suddenly became after rey decided to let the force in. I think it should've been more of a contest. I understand that that scene was more about kylo's loss and showing that he's not fully formed, than making rey invincible.
     
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  19. Blastaar

    Blastaar Jedi Grand Master star 4

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  20. Thrawn082

    Thrawn082 Force Ghost star 6

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    If she were "invincible" then literally she wouldn't have spent 98% of the duel running from him. It seemed more like a temporary powerup, almost instinctual (heck she looked pretty tired by the end as well, so I question how much she had left in the tank as well). It's not that dissimilar to Luke temporarily tapping into TF to blow up the DS, just used in a different context. And I'm pretty sure that how she was able to do it is going to be a plot-point moving forward, so I want to see where they go with it.

    Also, I question just how skilled with a lightsaber he even is, because he doesn't do much with it that's all that impressive? He mostly uses it to trash stuff when he's angry, or kill people who cannot really fight back. My theory is that Snoke is immensely powerful with TF, but also physically frail. So he taught Kylo a bunch of cool mental abilities, but couldn't really teach him actual dueling skills. And if he killed Luke's other students years before, then it's debatable just how experienced he is (since he might lack opponents who can really challenge him in a duel).
     
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  21. Blastaar

    Blastaar Jedi Grand Master star 4

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    Thats what my issue was. She went from looking pretty dire to taking him out pretty easily. I have to admit, my stance is also that i wanted to see more dueling
     
  22. jimmycrank

    jimmycrank Jedi Knight star 4

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    Yeah Kylo is done by the time Rey "powers-up" Clearly has run out of Gas (and probably Blood)

    Though I disagree about Kylo using a Lightsaber, I thought he look incredibly elegant (In parts) then against Rey I believe he's swinging Wildly to intimidate her and break her spirit, once she taps into the Force, His swings become Laboured and desperate Due to Fatigue.
     
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  23. Thrawn082

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    His abilities aren't THAT new, they seem more like supped-up/flashier version of olds one to me.

    -Force Paralysis/Freezing Blaster bolts in mid-air-Well it's been long-established that you can use TF to push or pull things away/towards you, and that you can use it to move objects around in various other ways. Well it stands to reason that a similar principle applies here, that you can also use TF to freeze/hold things in place.

    -Force Mind Probe-Well it's also long-established that you can use TF to read people's feelings, and influence their minds in various ways. So it makes sense that, with enough focus/concentration, you could also forcibly (no pun intended) rip info from their minds as well.

    -Knocking People Out with The Force-That is probably simply a case of temporarily overwhelming their minds with a concentrated amount of Force energy, which again isn't that different from what we've seen before. Heck even the hand motion that he uses to knock Rey out is kind of like the one that is used for the Jedi Mind Trick, just flashier/more aggressive.
     
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  24. Thrawn082

    Thrawn082 Force Ghost star 6

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    He's also losing his mind in that scene (which Adam Driver sells really well). And though I haven't read it, I've heard that the novelization makes it even more clear that killing his father did NOT give him the peace of mind that he was hoping for, it just messed him up more emotionally. AND he was specifically ordered by Snoke to bring Rey in ALIVE, AND Finn had injured his shoulder previously.

    So the movie goes out of it's way to give him "outs," both physically and mentally/emotionally, to explain his loss.
     
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  25. Obi-Wan Solo-Skywalker

    Obi-Wan Solo-Skywalker Jedi Knight star 2

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    Well I would call the way he fights Finn pretty elegant and not bad at all...
    Those "swirls" are in my opinion pretty awesome...

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    Against Rey his strategy is totally different quite apparently and he is making every effort not to injure or kill. Just at the last moment she manages to tap on some serious dark side force and basically takes him by surprise...One can basically say that Kylo lost because he allowed it...

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