ST Adam Driver (Kylo Ren) in the ST

yeah what's the budget for this movie? if they were able to put it there before, they could have done it again. it would have made more sense to have that portion of the wound "healed completely".
I think it's just an oversight, it seems preposterous but little stuff like exact scar position could easily get lost. the first artist didn't pay enough attention and that initial design served as the model for the rest of the shoot
it was 10 times thicker on his cheek than his forhead, yet the scar is a uniform line. what's with that? I'll tell you, the scar was no ones priority, fans blew it out of proportion

 

This scar shifting is the worst trade deal maybe ever created anywhere, but certainly ever created in this franchise. It was a big. league. mistake.

 

It isn't the fangirls, look at the position of the scar:



It looks like a tear. He'll be grieving his father's death forever. It's the cheek that Han touched. I think that in TFA, they were only thinking about having that cheek slashed, and then came up with "eternal grieving" symbolism so they repositioned it somewhat and healed it in a way that it looks like a trace of a tear. You'll see. It lines up with JJ saying that he immediately regretted killing Han. Kylo is one of those symbolic characters like Rey so nothing about him is random and "just for fangirls".

 

Okay, some thoughts from someone who has stitched up a face (and other assorted areas): when you suture a laceration, the purpose is to bring the wound edges back together. If you leave the wound open to heal itself, it will fill in and the scar will be as wide as it gapes apart. Pull the edges back together, and sew it up, and the width is minimized. My own kid blew her eyebrow open by falling in the garage and going face-first into the step. The cut was wide, and ugly. But the doc who put it back together did a great job and and all she has is a thinner line on one end of her eyebrow. Same goes if you've ever had a bigger mole cut off. Sometimes the incision around it is a football-shaped cut. But pull it together, and it becomes a thin line.

That said, the only thing we truly see on Driver himself is the few inches above the brow. We don't see the rest of his face. As I don't know for certain, how canon is battlefront? If it is canon, then the scar is thin. (And Kylo Ren also fights the First Order as an option.But that's a whole separate can of worms for the redemption thread!)

A thin scar tells us that Kylo Ren had medical attention after Starkiller and one of those interactions was to put his face back together. To expect a gaping scar, I guess, would be to assume that there was never any effort to assist the healing process and it just healed on its own from the inside out.

But why did they decide to go with thin scar vs huge? Artistic license. Also, if you haven't noticed, there's also the fact Driver is kind of very moley. You need to blend prosthetics out a bit to make them look realistic so you don't see the edges, and maybe his gazillion moles made that hard to accomplish, so it may have been a logistical choice either for the placement or removal process, and attempts for a realistic thicker scar to look convincing in HD close up (there were none in TFA) were unsuccessful.

The width of the scar doesn't bug me. I can rationalize that from a storyline or a makeup artist's logistical perspective. But the decision to migrate it several inches away from the original injury we saw will forever set off all of my OCD tendencies and drive me nuts forever. Makeup Dude, did you not even watch The Force Awakens?

 

Yes, that's the baffling part, isn't it. Not only has it migrated several inches, but at least in the teaser, it also seems to curve in the opposite direction.

That said, I don't think it's any kind of sloppiness, but a purely aesthetic decision. Most of the audience won't be zooming in on the wound in TFA, so I don't think it matters much.

 

Battlefront is canon and lines up with his look from BTS, it goes all the way down his neck but it's thin so you need better resolution to see it.

 

The scar is different above the eyebrow.

 

Interesting that MSW claimed the scar looked the same as it did in TFA. In this case they must have been just guessing.

 

They meant the "other" scar. This one was caused by Hux cat.

 

He looks great! But where is the full body shot picture? I want to see the new tunic with cape!

 

Not sure about the tunic. By the looks of what we have seen, it looks like he is just wearing the cape above the inner part of his TFA outfit.

I think we will have to wait until the summer to see the full look.

 

I've heard that there will be a Vanity Fair spread for The Last Jedi in the June issue, so we can probably bet on getting a better look at the characters and costumes in early May (VF is always published a month ahead).

 

Ou yeah!

 

True!! I did not remember that. I agree we can most likely expect the new major constumes to be revealed there.

 

Regarding the scar; Artistic licence.

It'll be as simple as the wound in TFA looked best for the wound, and when designing Kylo's look for TLJ, they decided that getting the look they wanted, with carefully placed scar, was more important than matching the scar exactly.

Suspension of disbelief required, that's all.

 

The scar is mainly a reminder that he got struck in the face in TFA, it doesn't really matter as to the precise location. His aesthetic in these movies seems to be that of a dark, medieval knight or prince anyway, handsome but evil.

We've had the hideous cyborg look already, better to have somebody whose sense of malevolence does not stem from deformity, just for a change.

 

Yeah, even the Skywalker lightsaber looks different in each of the saga films and despite that, it's still the same saber. So I am with @CEB on this. Suspension of disbelief.

 

I thought the scar would be far more noticeable. I don’t know if any of you played the Final Fantasy games, but I kinda imagined the scar would look similar to Squall’s forehead scar:

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As it is, it reminds me more of Anakin’s scar, and considering they deliberately changed the position (now it’s over the right eye) I wonder if there is an intentional mirroring there. Kylo is a character that wants to be Vader but rejects Anakin, yet he keeps reminding us more of Anakin than Vader – maybe the aesthetic similarities are part of the story they want to tell with the character? I don’t know, I’m just conjecturing here.

 

@La Calavera you are not imagining. Kylo indeed is a mix of both Anakin and Vader

 

Then there is the bacta factor. No, it doesn't migrate scars. But had they chosen, they could've erased all the scars altogether. I suspect there's were several incarnations of it, and for a variety of reasons, went with thin and linear. They went for as shocking as possible in TFA to emphasize that Rey just kicked his ass. Here it is not just a reminder that Rey defeated him, but it is also where his father had carassed his face as he died.

At the end of the day, the minimalist approach is probably best. That way the viewer can focus on the entire character, not just s scar that is the focal point.

 

Exactly, so its not in your face everytime you look at him (pun intended).

 

CEB

This.

La Calavera

And this.

Anakin in reverse so to speak. Starts as a Vader figure but moves towards Anakin figure. I think that's the whole point, that he was denying Anakin (and his whole family) but as LST prophesized "you cannot deny the truth that is your family". It's baby steps towards that, though Kylo himself may think that he is now stronger and darker than Vader so he doesn't need a mask to appear as such. Jason says that at the beginning of the movie he wants to prove himself to Snoke who is not happy with him. Oy, Snoke, what about Hux? Are you happy with him? probably not since we don't hear anything about him, must be dead in the first 5-10 minutes.

 

I really hope so. I think he is a terrible character. That hammy shrieking on starkiller base and "Fire the ventwal cannonth!!!" Awful (and I really like Domhnall Gleason)

 

but the scar makes no impression especially after we see his face cut in half, so artistic license for what? colors of the wind? I doubt I would have seen it if I wasn't looking for it. Anakin's scar was red which made it stand out on his face, they gave us a thin white line for kylo. RJ decided he didn't want it but knew there had to be something there, that's my take. I hope i'm around for when the actual reason is revealed in a behind the scenes video 10 years from now, this is a point of interest for me

His performance and John's were actually my favorite of the movie, and Harrison. they really reminded me of classic star wars, everyone else was too understated, but that's what the kids are in to these days

 

Excellent point.