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Anakin Solo as a Christ Figure?

Discussion in 'Literature' started by JM-Anakin-Solo, Apr 13, 2002.

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  1. Sticks

    Sticks Jedi Grand Master star 4

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    He's only a Christ figure if he comes back, which he won't.

    Problem solved. ;)
     
  2. JM-Anakin-Solo

    JM-Anakin-Solo Jedi Master star 4

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    He's only a Christ figure if he comes back, which he won't.

    Sorry but that is wrong. Not all Christ figures come back.

    Anyway Anakin WILL be back. :D
     
  3. Risste

    Risste Jedi Youngling star 3

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    Hmmm. Correlations...

    Very small one here, but when Jesus is being handed over in or around the garden, Peter or one of the others yanks a sword and tries to fight for him, wounding somebody pretty bad. Jesus tell him to stop, and lets himself be taken.--In SBS as I recall Anakin has to yell at his sister to go, because she wants to go fight for him...(of course, she is his sister, so her wanting to stay is kind of given...)

    --I don't remember and don't have SbS to check, but I think the kid fell two or three times during the trip to his last stand...Was it three? That would be a neat correlation indeed...(Christ supposedly fell three times on his way to get crucified.)

    --Anakin made one absolutely huge contribution to the NJO that lots of Jacen fans seem to ignore: Jacen cries about how he wants to be peaceful all the time, but Anakin actually walked that path. He allied with Vua Rapuung to save Tahiri and redeem Vua, and thereby brought into being a vast movement in the Shamed establishment ...which might just mean the collapse of some of the Vong solidarity. So while Jacen was off whining about peace and nonagression, Anakin just happened to be putting it into practice. And as such, Anakin's greatest accomplishment was his ability to put aside his fear and anger and to join with what had been an enemy, and to make a friend. Meanwhile, Jacen has still accomplished little without using his lightsaber...

    --Christ always said, despite the claims of the Pharisees that the Messiah would be a great general, that he came not as a warrior but a reformer and savior. Hmmmm...?











     
  4. DVader316

    DVader316 Jedi Knight star 7

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    You have some great theories, JM-Anakin-Solo. Some of your ideas could very possibly come to fruition.
     
  5. raiderjainasolo

    raiderjainasolo Jedi Youngling star 1

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    I think that he definately is a Christ figure and I have been thinking of him in that context right allong. I'm a Christian, so I tend to think of characters who fit that criteria in that context naturally. If we wantto go any futher, we can say that Jaina is like Mary Magdaline, who had "deamon" cast out of her, or like in the books, went to the dark side and returned. Even futher, Jason is like a Simon Peter, who is srong in words, but weak in spirit until Christ returns. From what the spoilers say












    Spoilers!!!!!

    Jacne will return as a stronger person. Will that mean Anakin will return? Doubtfully, but it is an interesting prospect.

    Raider Jaina Solo
     
  6. barnsthefatjedi

    barnsthefatjedi Jedi Knight star 5

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    3. Christ's body disappeared after he was buried. Anakin's body has been destroyed with fire to effectively make Anakin's body disappear

    [face_laugh]

    My Gran is a Christ figure too!
     
  7. Genghis12

    Genghis12 Manager Emeritus star 6 VIP - Former Mod/RSA

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    Some more...
    1. The Obvious One - If one accepts Anakin Skywalker as the ultimate Christ figure in Star Wars (a whole seperate discussion, I know) - That is, he is both the ultimate redemption and redeemer of prophecy all rolled in one, then we have available to us a powerful christ-substitute, "Anakin Skywalker" allegory available. Just as "Jesus Christ" is often used in symbolism, i.e. his initials are routinely used for Christ figures - Jesse Custer (Preacher), John Coffey (The Green Mile), or events surrounding his life are called upon (Jane Eyre). If one accepts Anakin Skywalker as the Star Wars version of Christ, then a simple substitution can be made. Instead of "JC" being the key symbolism of Christ, we now have "AS" as a substitute for the redemptive figure, one which Anakin Solo fits to a tee. That is, you cannot have a more powerful symbol of "Christ" than having the same name.

    2. Anakin SOLO - Solo, being "one" can refer to Jesus as the promised One, the Messiah - just as Anakin Solo was "the One". (Rather a stretch considering there's Thracken Sal-Solo, Han Solo, Jacen Solo, Jaina Solo...)

    3. Anakin remains alone; not even his older brother Jacen (who still would be his guardian being like a 'Father') or Jaina, who would complete the holy trinity are there to help. Facing the Vong alone, Anakin dies. In the same way, Christ had to face his death alone - the disciples scattered in fear, and Jesus even cried out to the Father, "Why have You forsaken Me?" as God placed the sin of the world upon His sacrificed Son.

    4. It was a woman (Jaina or even Vergere) who was the first one present at Anakin's recovery, just as it was a woman who first saw Christ raised (Mary Magdalene in John 20:14 and 18).

    5. When Anakin accomplishes his task, he stands as a brilliant, shining figure of light. In the same way, Jesus said, "I am the Light of the world," (John 9:5). And, "The Light shines in the darkness, and the darkness did not overpower it" (John 1:4), just as shining Anakin overpowered evil Vong.

    6. Anakin displays total power over the Force in his shining moments. Jesus now wields unlimited power. "All authority in heaven and earth has been given to Me," said the risen Christ in Matthew 28:18.

    Hmmm, see if I can't dig up some more.
     
  8. JM-Anakin-Solo

    JM-Anakin-Solo Jedi Master star 4

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    Risste and Genghis12... those are some very good points.

    I'm going to have to look into how many times Anakin falls in SbS. :D
     
  9. Jedi_Andrew_Solo

    Jedi_Andrew_Solo Jedi Grand Master star 2

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  10. LoveisSuicideSP

    LoveisSuicideSP Jedi Padawan star 4

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    Simon from Lord of the Flies is an example of a Christ figure that doesn't return. He is murdered for being a "beast" when really he has just gotten rid of the "beast", just like Christ is murdered for trying to help and save the people. Also, right when Simon dies the "beast" is swept off of the island by the wind, just like right when Christ dies the world's sins are taken away.
     
  11. Face Loran

    Face Loran Jedi Padawan star 4

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    Also, Simon is found in a thorn bush, with scratches on his forehead, which is symbolic of the crown of thorns Christ wore.
     
  12. LoveisSuicideSP

    LoveisSuicideSP Jedi Padawan star 4

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    Yes, there is tons of Simon-Christ symbolism. Him giving fruit to the littluns who couldn't reach it, him being tempted by the "lord of the flies", him replying, "because it must be done" when he asks himself why he is going to confront the "beast". He is definitely a Christ-figure if i ever saw one.
     
  13. JM-Anakin-Solo

    JM-Anakin-Solo Jedi Master star 4

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    Anyone got any new links to show Anakin as a Christ figure? :D
     
  14. Knight1192

    Knight1192 Jedi Knight star 6

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    One quick question. Where in DJ does it say Leia layed a funneral sheet over her son? Looking through at when she first sees his body and when the funneral finally comes, there's nothing mentioned of Leia wrapping him in a funneral sheet.
     
  15. JM-Anakin-Solo

    JM-Anakin-Solo Jedi Master star 4

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    Maybe she doesn't. I'm reading DJ right now. I had thought I heard that from someone but maybe not. I will let you know when I get to that part. :D
     
  16. Sticks

    Sticks Jedi Grand Master star 4

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    Sorry but that is wrong. Not all Christ figures come back.

    Then they're not Christ figures. The definition of a Christ figure is a character who in effect acts out the events of the life and death of Christ, and then comes back. If they don't come back, they're not Christ figures; they just die.

    And if Ani's coming back, then by all logic, Qui-Gon and the original Anakin should too-- after all, they were all cremated.

    Christ, on the other hand, was buried before he was raised again-- still a whole body. I'm not saying that if Christ had been cremated, God couldn't have raised him; God can do anything. But the fact that Anakin was cremated suggests that he's quite irrevocably dead.

    Once again, problem solved.
     
  17. J_K_DART

    J_K_DART Jedi Grand Master star 5

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    Check out Randall P. McMurphy in 'One Flw Over A Cuckoo's Nest' - the Christ symbiology is one of the key teachings of the book, but he winds up dead and not returning. It is HIS MESSAGE that lives on.

    One other thing - Jesus didn't get on with his brothers either (Mary may have been a virgin when she had Jesus but she had other children afterwards). Only after Jesus rose from the dead did his brother James believe and write one of the books of the Bible. So perhaps it is Anakin's message that will take root in Jacen?
     
  18. Sticks

    Sticks Jedi Grand Master star 4

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    I do believe that Anakin's message will take root in Jacen (Anakin was on the trail of a new way to experience the Force, and Jacen seems to find it in Traitor), but that doesn't mean Anakin's coming back. In effect, Jacen takes over for him. (I suppose it could be argued that that serves the purpose of a resurrection, but we're talking about physical resurrection here.)

    *checks RD* Yep, he's still dead. ;)
     
  19. poweranger

    poweranger Jedi Youngling star 2

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    ummm... if memeory serves, the one sw character in general that fits this entire profile would be luke;
    only because of events in the academy series.

    1)the encounter with exar kun gave him a "death" experience
    2) he had already been put thru a bit of "suffering" in previous timeline stories
    3) anyone who met luke personally never found what they expected to find; most individuals expect a jedi wielding so much power to be dominating but luke doesnt fit that mold
    4) he was betrayed by one of his own students which led to above mentioned experience
    5) he is constantly trying to serve those around him
    6) he shows up out of nowhere[if there's a bright center to the universe, you're the furthest from it] and plays a deciding role in saving the galaxy

    i hope this isnt too far off the topic
     
  20. Sturm Antilles

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  21. J_K_DART

    J_K_DART Jedi Grand Master star 5

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    In SOS I posted some stuff about Christian imagery in the JAT - here's a recap...

    -->Luke is projected throughout JAT as a 'messiah'
    -->He walks across a lake of fire (religious symbolism - walking over water)
    -->'Tempted' by Exar Kun in that dream-sequence that nicely correlates with the temptation of Jesus
    -->Betrayed by Kyp
    -->Struck down
    -->Rises again
    -->Offers forgiveness and redemption to Kyp.

    Just an interesting bythought!
     
  22. JohnWilliamsFan

    JohnWilliamsFan Jedi Youngling star 3

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    Actually I was having this discussion with a friend a few weeks back, and not only can Anakin be looked upon as a Christ, but the force in general can be seen as the power of the Holy Spirit...and there are quite a few other similairities...

    "...and hokey religions..." - Han Solo, A New Hope
     
  23. JediFreac

    JediFreac Jedi Grand Master star 4

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    This is a stretch....but he was betrayed by Lomi and Welk despite helping them? And you expect him to live but he dies? Iono...
     
  24. REBADAMS7

    REBADAMS7 Jedi Grand Master star 4

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    RIGHT ON!
    I have been considering this theme for a few days now and just saw this thread. The force could use him to redeem the vong.......YEAH!
    reb!
     
  25. Tahi

    Tahi Jedi Knight star 5

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    Yep, I've always seen Anakin as the "Christ" type figure. However I think that SW latches into so many religions and myths it's difficult to come up with exact parallels for everything. Anakin is also like a lot of the classic mythical heroes. Jacen actually reminds me a bit of the Red Cross Knight in Edmund Spenser's Faerie Queen - especially when he loses faith and gives in too much to despair.
     
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