Anakin Solo had the hots for his aunt?

Yeah. At least Stackpole is clean a straight up about it

 

Drakonnen: In fact, after rereading certain parts, I think the thread is mislabeled. I think it should be titled "Mara Jade Skywalker had the hots for her nephew."

True. You could make a case that Mara's frustrated, repressed lust for Anakin drove her back into Luke's bed... but IMHO that's even worse!!

Part of the reason is that, we see more Mara's POV than Anakin's, especially in the hardcovers - there's only one POV scene for Anakin in BP, and none in SbS until deep in the Myrkr battle, when he obviously has more immediate things to think about...

Nevertheless, it's clear enough from Onslaught and the Edge of Victory duology that Anakin hero-woships Mara more than a bit, too...

There's an amusing scene in Conquest (p. 37), where Anakin is annoyed that Mara can't properly express her "feelings" where he's concerned, because her marriage to Luke gets in the way. He's in a foul and stroppy mood, and on the surface, these "feelings" mean simply that Mara knows he's not a child... but that in itself has a certain significance in this context, and it flashes back to their discussion in Onslaught, and his unfortunately-phrased protestation "I've been around", which tickles Mara on p. 96...

It makes you wonder what Anakin's problems are if you do more than "scratch the surface", in the words of the novel...

In various scenes Mara is -repeatedly- staring at Anakin, see page 36 and page 44, two different scenes both mainly told from Mara's view point, despite being written in the omnipresent sense.

Y'think. Reads like third-person limited to me - narrative recounting one character's perspective...

In one paragraph on page 37, Mara is comparing Luke and Anakin physically, while on page 38 its noted that Twi'lek women were often "twitching their long lekku" when ever Anakin walked past, an obvious sexuality reference which Mara has taken note of.

In the scene on page 44, Mara is again watching Anakin and notices how three women and a female Falleen all stop at the same time to watch him pass. Then, still from Mara's view, she notes Anakin's "dark good looks".

Yep, and yep.

We also know that Mara has always been attracted by power, and on the same page she thinks that he can be the most powerful Jedi of his generation. She also notes in the earlier scene that it was Anakin who had the strength to save her life from the Vong when she was weak on Dantooine. Perhaps she finds hima more able protector than Luke?

Y'think?

In the Kuati costume scene, its Mara who did the dressing up and walked in on Anakin. She also enjoys teasing him with her accent and telling him he could kiss her hand. Anakin's choked up and excited reaction is just natural for a male of any age.

So, if anything, I think its the other way around, with Mara desiring Anakin, or their being a mutual desire there, but the book seems to show it far more from Mara's point of view, and definetly paints her as the "agressor" with her constantly watching hima nd noting his good looks, as well as her being the one deciding to dress up.

It's her job to observe everything and mislead people. And it's also the Last Command - she's "killing" Luke Skywalker by stopping his bloodline...

I won't go so far as to actually say there is anything to this relationship, as far as them doing anything or Anakin actually being the father of her child, but there does seem to be way too many scenes between Mara and Anakin where they both appreciate the others physical looks and a clear underpinning of sexuality for it to just be coincidence...

Yep.

Kudzu: Only one emoticon can be used to express this topic. Not even the "puke" one would cut it.



You're in denial, mate.

TR: Sad but true

Hey! That's no way to speak about the Monomyth!!

JS: I really think Onslaught would provide better proof for this theory than Balance Point.

But yeah. Ick. Poor Tahiri.

Not

 

Didn't you used to have a quote from Mara from Dark Tide about how she wanted to be more than the woman Anakin rescued on Dantooine when Jedi were remembering Anakin 100 years later?

 

Corran fancied Mara also? Or some other woman?

And funny how Anakin had the strange bulge in his pants at the time Mara was feeling around inside her vest...

 

So sure, am I.

Ah, but I know that though you may think you know what you want me to think is what you want to think I want to think, I know that what you're thinking is what I want you to think because I've let you know no more than I want you to know in keeping with the knowledge that there are of course things that I know that you don't know that you don't need to know that you don't know I know...

 

Fortunately, because it's semi-subtle innuendo, we can just happily take it blindly at face value and just laugh at Tyers's attempt to make Mara into...
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...a pedophile

 

Well, no. Pedophilia is pre-pubescent teens. If it was anything, it would likely be hebephilia, and Anakin's attraction to her more along the lines of teleiophilia (which most societies don't see as an issue).

Anakin's mild attraction to Mara doesn't surprise me too much, especially since it doesn't seem too personalized. I think it's a normal young man's reaction to a fairly attractive women, and keep in mind that not only is she not blood-related, but he likely knew her as just Mara Jade rather than Aunt Mara for quite a bit of time. I will say that Mara's appreciation of his looks seems a bit odd, but again, her late entry into the Skywalker/Solo family circle likely compromises her ability to view the Solo kids with the same kind of familial affection that Luke does. Her reaction to him may very well be her recognition of how fast the kids have grown up and developed into capable young people.

Though, after reading through this topic, I must ask - is there ANY character left in SW who doesn't want to a snog Mara?

 

There's something about those red-heads. Ask Captain Hastings, he knows.

 

EH_Pilot: Didn't you used to have a quote from Mara from Dark Tide about how she wanted to be more than the woman Anakin rescued on Dantooine when Jedi were remembering Anakin 100 years later?

Yep!

?Thanks for saving Anakin.?

?I owed him.? Her smile broadened as she saw Anakin warding a corridor entrance with his twin blades. ?Besides, a century from now, when Jedi are singing balads about the great Jedi hero, Anakin Solo, I want to be known for being a bit more than the woman he saved at Dantooine.?

?Oh, I think, Mara,? her husband said quiety, ?that won?t be a problem at all.?

- Dark Tide: Ruin, p. 261

Two_Legs: Corran fancied Mara also? Or some other woman?

Can we say "Mirax/Mara/Corran/Leonia/Caet kriff-fest"?

I think we can, y'know...

It's wordplay worthy of the Flanelled One himself...

And funny how Anakin had the strange bulge in his pants at the time Mara was feeling around inside her vest...

*headdesk*

I missed that.

TR: " "



Q_M: So sure, am I.

Personally, I think Yoda would be more likely to say "So sure, I am".

But maybe that's just me...

Ah, but I know that though you may think you know what you want me to think is what you want to think I want to think, I know that what you're thinking is what I want you to think because I've let you know no more than I want you to know in keeping with the knowledge that there are of course things that I know that you don't know that you don't need to know that you don't know I know...

You wouldn't have told me, if that was true...

Kudzu: I believe the correct slur is "a ho"?

Anyway...

C_S: Thanks for taking this thread seriously. It makes a change.

And, um... I think Vos Parck might be forgiven for treating her rather chillily...?

Q_M: You never reminded me of Poirot before...

- The Imperial Ewok

 

Ah, my apologies. Clearly I was...mistaken in my choice of...uhhhhhh...

 

Thrawn McEwok: Who the hell is Caet?

Out of curiousity, would it be any better if Ben was the child of Mara and Anakin Skywalker instead of Anakin Solo?

Then again, there's not much difference between the two...if any...

 

I will say that Mara's appreciation of his looks seems a bit odd, but again, her late entry into the Skywalker/Solo family circle likely compromises her ability to view the Solo kids with the same kind of familial affection that Luke does. Her reaction to him may very well be her recognition of how fast the kids have grown up and developed into capable young people.

Umm, she's known them since the day they were born. Before they were born. She met Leia when she was a few months along with the twins. And she knew that Anakin was "squinched and wrinkly".

 

How utterly revolting. It's even worse than I remembered it.

And to answer your question, Chaotic_Serenity, no, there isn't a male in the story who doesn't want to snog Mara. She's presented as the most ravishingly beautiful woman in the galaxy, and she never ages. She'll be 80 and still look 22. Even when she's 9 months pregnant and "ill," her beauty "makes Luke's throat close."

Yep. And it doesn't matter that she and Anakin weren't related by blood, it's still at least quasi-incestuous.

 

She's seen them what, 3-4 times for a few minutes before she marries Luke? It would be more of a "oh, someone's kids" more than "Aww, it's my future nephew in law" when she did see them.

 

She's seen/known them for long enough to realize it's inappropriate to ogle them and think of them in a sexualized way, or to flirt with them.

 

She's seen them what, 3-4 times for a few minutes before she marries Luke? It would be more of a "oh, someone's kids" more than "Aww, it's my future nephew in law" when she did see them.

I know. It's just more endless Mara Retcon. In VP, it says that Luke and her "raised the Solo kids into adults, having taught them everything they know."

I agree it's tiresome.

 

Though, after reading through this topic, I must ask - is there ANY character left in SW who doesn't want to a snog Mara?

HK-47


Mara's a meatbag.

 

Exactly. You expect that I wouldn't have told you if it was true, so the most logical course of action would be to act as though it was true, because therefore you would immediately assume that it was not true, because naturally I wouldn't have told you if it was true, so telling you that it was true in order to make you think it was not true because you believe that I wouldn't have told you the truth if it was true was the natural choice to prevent you from knowing the truth and furthermore...

Are you saying that I made you think of Poirot just now, or that I should have reminded you of Poirot before now? Or that my mention of Hastings reminded you of Poirot doing as much? Or that now I myself am beginning to remind you of Poirot? Or...

Caet Shrovel, a Shistavanen female of questionable tastes, apparently, to judge from some of the idle chatter one hears.

What? Plugging your fan-fic again? Bad form!

 

I'm not plugging my fan fic... it's a theory I came up with in the Luke/Mara/Force/Sex thread...

 

Kudzu: Ah, my apologies. Clearly I was...mistaken in my choice of...uhhhhhh...

"... insult"?

EH_Pilot: Who the hell is Caet?

Caet.

Out of curiousity, would it be any better if Ben was the child of Mara and Anakin Skywalker instead of Anakin Solo?

Then again, there's not much difference between the two...if any...

At least 2", as I understand it...

T_F: Umm, she's known them since the day they were born. Before they were born. She met Leia when she was a few months along with the twins. And she knew that Anakin was "squinched and wrinkly".

It's "all scrunched and wrinkly" - and the words are Anakin's, she just turned them back at him...

Then again, Mara had taken her detour with Kyle at that point in time - you probably don't want to know how I interpret that exchange...

Shelley: How utterly revolting. It's even worse than I remembered it.

You don't find it amusing?

And to answer your question, Chaotic_Serenity, no, there isn't a male in the story who doesn't want to snog Mara. She's presented as the most ravishingly beautiful woman in the galaxy, and she never ages. She'll be 80 and still look 22. Even when she's 9 months pregnant and "ill," her beauty "makes Luke's throat close."

Luke is biased...

And - read TJK yet? Even T_F liked the way Mara was portrayed!

Yep. And it doesn't matter that she and Anakin weren't related by blood, it's still at least quasi-incestuous.

You've forgotten the discussion of cultural and historical parallels last year, then?

She needs a hug. So does he. Is that so wrong?

Wes: She's seen them what, 3-4 times for a few minutes before she marries Luke? It would be more of a "oh, someone's kids" more than "Aww, it's my future nephew in law" when she did see them.

You have something of a point - see below...

Shelley: She's seen/known them for long enough to realize it's inappropriate to ogle them and think of them in a sexualized way, or to flirt with them.

And Mara shares your specific moral POV... um, why?

T_F: I know. It's just more endless Mara Retcon. In VP, it says that Luke and her "raised the Solo kids into adults, having taught them everything they know."

I agree it's tiresome.

I think that refers to the fact that they were their Apprentices... though what Mirax, Mara and Jaina would have been like as a team is anyone's guess...

TR: HK-47


Mara's a meatbag.



But her hair-colour matches his chassis....

Q_M: Exactly. You expect that I wouldn't have told you if it was true, so the most logical course of action would be to act as though it was true, because therefore you would immediately assume that it was not true, because naturally I wouldn't have told you if it was true, so telling you that it was true in order to make you think it was not true because you believe that I wouldn't have told you the truth if it was true was the natural choice to prevent you from knowing the truth and furthermore...

So you're saying I was right?

(I already know the answer, btw - but it's fun to watch this... )

Are you saying that I made you think of Poirot just now, or that I should have reminded you of Poirot before now? Or that my mention of Hastings reminded you of Poirot doing as much? Or that now I myself am beginning to remind you of Poirot? Or...

Those are all technically all the same question...

Or possibly the same answer?

EH_Pilot: I'm not plugging my fan fic... it's a theory I came up with in the Luke/Mara/Force/Sex thread...



Luke/Mara/Force?

I'm just waiting for them to discover DNA irregularities in Ben... and then explain them as "he must be part coom-spore, and that's why he's hiding from the Force"...



- The Imperial Ewok

 

Though, after reading through this topic, I must ask - is there ANY character left in SW who doesn't want to a snog Mara?

I can't recall any. Even Sidious wanted a piece of that @$$. I can just imagine what he did to suduce her to the darkside...

 

"At least 2", as I understand it..."

Growth irregularities are to be expected due to the different circumstances of their lives...

...'course I'm sure Mara didn't notice too much.

"Luke/Mara/Force? "

The THREAD, McEwok!

...but yeah, that does make sense, doesn't it?

"I'm just waiting for them to discover DNA irregularities in Ben... and then explain them as "he must be part coom-spore, and that's why he's hiding from the Force"..."

Of course, there couldn't possibly be another explanation, could there?

 

Haha, sifting through SW material for innuendo is fun. From page 96 of Onslaught, Mara speaking to Anakin:

?You don?t know what you, Anakin Solo, are capable of without the Force. You don?t know if you could have humped all those crates up there. You don?t now how much you would ache or sweat in doing it. You don?t know how long it would take for you to pitch the tents.?

On a more serious note, some of this sub-textual evidence does seem rather blatant and purposeful on the part of the authors. At the very least, I think it?s being shown that some kind of physical awareness exists between the two characters. They both recognize their own standings as superb specimens, and in turn can?t help but view each other?s company as a pairing of two individuals in a class of their own.

This may be a little wacky, twisted, and more belonging to a George R.R. Martin novel, but still it?s hard to totally dismiss this idea as a fan theory backed by nothing but irrational speculation.

 

*Sigh* You know, I've never really seen the Caet/Leona quote that McEwok always talks about from I, Jedi. Anyone have it?


Don't doubt it exists, though, since I, Jedi is a Stackpole book.