Andor Andor Episode 1.10 Discussion Thread (Spoilers Allowed)

Oh, right. There was the Niamos Vice bridge episode between the Aldhani and Narkina arcs.

Re: Kino, he definitely knew he wasn't getting out. And I think that's partly what he struggles with when trying to build up the courage to finally commit to the revolt.

Such excellent drama.

In any event, what the heck could they do? If he can't swim, they simply can't do anything for him.

In all my seven years in this place, I cannot think of a post I disagree with more than this one.

 

This series keeps rising to new levels every week, or at least it feels that way to me. The prison break was emotional due to the fact that it was such an oppressive place, and the odds felt so much against the prisoners.

That said, it's the acting that I find outstanding in this episode, and in many before it. Genevieve O`Reilly, Andy Serkis and Stellan Skarsgård particularly shined. I was going to say every time either Dedra Meero or Mon Mothma appears on the screen, I know there is a scene coming I will wholeheartedly enjoy, but in reality the whole series is doing a great job to keep us invested in every storyline. Add Lonni Jung's to that list!

 

The Aldhani heist didn't get interesting for me until Nemik got hurt. That raised the stakes. The Narkina 5 prison escape was well executed, but I felt like it needed more obstacles for the characters to overcome. It felt like once they overrode the power to the floor, it was all over. Sure, some prisoners died, but nobody that I cared about. It wasn't until Kino's realization at the end that he had no way out that it felt impactful in an unexpected way.

 

Diego killed it in this episode too.

 

There's a difference between shooting someone who's shooting at you, and shooting a helpless prisoner who's looking you in the eyes not wanting to die.


And on another note, "If you can dodge a wrench, you can dodge a ball!"

 

Really hope that the last two episodes will be much longer than previous ones so that all plotlines will have decend finals, at least
intermediate ones; Cassian and Melshi must somehow find a way to escape prison planet for a start. Seems to me Lonni (whose actor, Robert Emms, was just great in this episode) will be exposed only in season 2.

 

This series' ability to take characters who you think are going to be minor and give them real texture and depth is incredibly impressive.

Lonni Jung wasn't even on my radar before his meetup with Luthen this week, and holy cow, he's now skyrocketed up the list of characters to watch moving forward.

 

Yes it was chaotic, but maybe he had some small hope he could be saved.

 

Yeah, hope dies hard.

 

Completely agree. He's been fantastic in the whole series, I feel!

 

No they certainly should have been killed. Just in case they do something. You don't take chances in my opinion. The Imperials would kill the prisoners without much of a thought. That's not a risk I would be taking. It's like when Andor killed his contact in Rogue One. He had to, no choice.

 

Who else was thinking, "The fall will probably kill you."?

Doing something because the Imps would do it is possibly the worst reasoning ever. And there's always a choice.

 

But we see Andor acting that way in Rogue One and also in episode 1 of this show. Killing unarmed people to save himself. It seemed bit out of a character to leave imperials like that. Could've at least lock them up or something.

And it sure is arguable if there is always a choice. Sure there are situations where choices are so limited that it is hard to say what is the best way to act. Andor has been pretty brutal so it was bit odd he left them alive just like that. Again, why no one has stun option in the blaster now?

 

No stun option means they don't have to worry about causing riots by recycling prisoners.

 

It would be useful though. To stun, not to recycle prisoners.

 

why didn't they electrify the floor sooner?

 

Padme easter eggs

 

Part of the premise was the prison only kept the prisoners in check because of the floors. Turn those off and the guards didn’t stand a chance. That’s how it played it. The extra twist was each prison was like Alcatraz. Even if you escape the faculty it’s a long long swim to land.

 

You missed the point. You don't do it because they do it, you kill them so they can't kill you, because they would at the first opportunity.

But no, sometimes you don't have a choice.

 

We should have identified that Rebel mustache.
We're slipping!

 

I get all that, but once again, once the floor was turned off, there wasn't much else to make me doubt that the prisoners would pull off the escape. And it's a good point about the long swim to land, but there was no drama mined for that scenario. That could have raised the stakes in an "out of the frying pan and into the fire" type of scenario.

 

Didn't someone say he is the rebel spy? I think that someone knows all about rebel moustache.

I actually liked Aldhani heist all the time but I agree about this escape. It felt bit easy after all build-up they just spilled some water on the floor and ran away.

We knew Andor and Melshi survive and they survived. No interesting twists like in Aldhani story. Kino should've had death scene IMO for large impact.

 

True but he killed one of the first unarmed guards that was sitting at a console just outside their work room. Plus, Cassian killed that one rent-a-cop in the first episode after accidentally killing the first rent-a-cop.

EDIT: Unrelated when Luthen meets the double agent I loved how Luthen was dressed in a way that was supposed to conjure up the image of Darth Vader.

 

No Words.

10/10 - which just doesn't do it justice.

Still shaking.