Andor Andor Episode 2.12 (SERIES FINALE!!!) Discussion Thread (Spoilers Allowed)

I meant after this not before

 

My best guess was the message she wanted Cassian to take back. "Jedha, Kyber, Erso."

 

She's aware they're active. But she doesn't think she'll have a role there, particularly given the Yavinites' poor opinion of Luthen.

Based on Wil's description of the message as a "final call," it was an existential emergency message (code red...), and a call to meet at the safehouse. There were clearly no other details beyond that, as she has to spell it out in person.

 

There is also K-2's comment about the message being too short to be decoded, and how it must be something Cassian had memorized. This clearly indicates it was a type of standard-message all members of Luthen's crew understood, but which would be of no use to anyone else.

 

Yup. Good call. I was just about to come back here and say that!

Not to mention that Luthen (her dad) stabs himself, doesn't die, and then she has to go in and kill him. Her life, as she knew it, is ended. And she's breaking down. Why anyone would expect her to act exactly as she's been acting since the beginning of season 1 is beyond me.

 

Right. How hard must that have been to do as well regardless if she knew it'd be what he wanted. Also, like has been mentioned, at this point Yavin is nothing. No one is doing anything. She's a woman of action and intrigue and to be around people who she doesn't know and might think little of has to be demoralizing. Like Cassian said to, I forget who, what have you done? Her and Luthen were in constant danger and gave everything in his case.

 

Yavin was almost literally set up as an alternative to Luthen, and this is mentioned many times during the last two arcs. Every time a rebel commits to Yavin, it feels to Luthen and Kleya as almost a personal betrayal. The Yavin leadership is constantly critical of Luthen's methods. Kleya has every reason to believe she won't be greeted with open arms, and for the most part she is right. Over time it seems that the situation will work itself out, but it isn't hard to imagine Kleya not wanting to be a part of it initially.

 

Also, unlike Vel, she has no personal connection to Yavin, and she'd probably be wary of Jedi and the Force since it flies in the face of the pragmatism she'd known. She might eventually feel comfortable, but even then she's something of an outlier.

 

Yup.

Vel: “We’re not Luthen’s puppets anymore.”

 

I thought this might be the helmet Luke will use but its not, anyone have any idea?

 

I like that it's mirroring the Vader corridor scene at the end of Rogue One - both are in a dark corridor and ordinary soldiers are pretty helpless against the oncoming force (or Force). K2 is trying to help get information to the Rebellion, while Vader is trying to stop information.

 

I gave this a 10 but it's not as good as the tenth and eleventh episodes... which were both 10s for me.

So... this was the lesser 10.

Yes, that's right.

That's where we're at with Andor.

It's not 10/10, it's multiple 10/10s and each 10 may be greater or lesser than the previous 10.

How many times can I say 10?

Well, let's just say I give this whole season a 10/10.

I'll elaborate a bit later, but that's really what I feel. I put it up past Shogun.

 

Is it wedges?

 

Gold Leader?

 

No, this is Gold Leader, Jon Vander's helmet.


Wedge's helmet

 

lol I immediately thought "This is Gooooold Leader - standing by." when I saw your comment.