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JCC Amph Ang Lee’s Hulk, Or How I Learned to Hate The MCU

Discussion in 'Community' started by Bor Mullet, Dec 7, 2021.

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Rank Ang Lee’s Hulk

  1. The absolute best Marvel movie

    9 vote(s)
    75.0%
  2. The best Marvel movie

    3 vote(s)
    25.0%
  1. Thena

    Thena Chosen One star 7

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    Yeah, you know, I didn't think this needed to be said but maybe it does: mindless escapism is arguably the most popular type of movie now and has been since at least 76-77 and, like the more escapist movies today, the original Star Wars also produced a lot of imitators, heck, even James Bond found himself being launched into space in 1979.
    Having a CBM become a box-office hit certainly isn't new, WB did it first and the original big-budget incarnations of Superman and Batman were extremely popular and followed by a lot of sequels of rapidly decreasing quality. Then WB struck gold again with the Nolan trilogy.
    So absolutely, what is going on today is kind of a continuation of stuff that's being happening for decades to some extent or another. You may argue that, in your absolutely subjective opinion, this kind of escapist movie is less artistic than that other one, but they're all trying to do basically the same thing: giving people the entertainment most of us crave.
    I asked someone before and didn't get an answer - what was the last time any of you watched Sullivan's Travels? Sometimes the thing a person needs most in their life is to watch Ants in Your Pants of 1939 - not some stuffy, pretentious and condescending piece of you-know-what. To pretend otherwise strikes me as a certain kind of elitist snobbery, and I say that with all due respect to elitist snobs everywhere because a lot of my friends are precisely that. :p

    So if you don't like an MCU, Fast & Furious, or SW-type of movie, then absolutely don't watch them, but let's not pretend that the situation with movies is unlike the situation with any other product for the masses - it's all about supply and demand.

    Also, FWIW, I just watched the new West Side Story and I think it's a masterpiece - most likely it will be ignored by the masses and perhaps won't make a dime, which will mean we will get less ambitious projects like it. So I don't like it, either, but I've made my peace with it.
     
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  2. DarthPhilosopher

    DarthPhilosopher Chosen One star 6

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    Thank you for explaining how capitalism works Tina.
     
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  3. blackmyron

    blackmyron Chosen One star 7

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    I'm still amazed that people are still wearing their rose-tinted glasses about a mythical "golden age" of cinema when only good movies were made.
    Sturgeon's Law is timeless.
     
  4. TCF-1138

    TCF-1138 Anthology/Fan Films/NSA Mod & Ewok Enthusiast star 6 Staff Member Manager

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    Has anyone said or even implied that?
     
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  5. Bacon164

    Bacon164 Chosen One star 8

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    When was this golden age others speak of?
     
  6. blackmyron

    blackmyron Chosen One star 7

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    Saying Marvel "ruined" cinema implies a time when the majority of movies weren't ****.
    Besides, it's been well documented that it was Waterworld that ruined movies.
     
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  7. bstnsx704

    bstnsx704 Force Ghost star 5

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    Film peaked with the Roundhay Garden Scene in 1888.
     
  8. Thena

    Thena Chosen One star 7

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    Everybody know it was Star Wars that ruined movies... :p
     
  9. Darth Guy

    Darth Guy Chosen One star 10

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    I think only Bacon said it ruined cinema, and he was being intentionally hyperbolic.
     
  10. blackmyron

    blackmyron Chosen One star 7

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    I'm obviously taking this vry srs.
     
  11. Thena

    Thena Chosen One star 7

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    You can't make an ommelette without breaking some eggs....
     
  12. Ramza

    Ramza Administrator Emeritus star 10 VIP - Former Mod/RSA

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    You would like that you trash peddling corporate sycophant. Everything after magic lanterns is a perversion of the form.
     
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  13. Thena

    Thena Chosen One star 7

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    We should just go back to the golden days of vaudeville.
     
  14. blackmyron

    blackmyron Chosen One star 7

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    Movies should've remained within the purity of a theoretical concept. The act of creating an actual film tainted the genre forever.
     
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  15. Ramza

    Ramza Administrator Emeritus star 10 VIP - Former Mod/RSA

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    Theatre was never the same after it moved indoors and authors began writing plays that accommodated the constraints imposed by architecture. This leads us to only one conclusion.

    That’s right: Shakespeare ruined cinema.
     
  16. Bacon164

    Bacon164 Chosen One star 8

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    Shakespeare didn't even write those ****** plays, how could he have eviscerated cinema
     
  17. Rylo Ken

    Rylo Ken Chosen One star 7

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    Does the Globe count as indoors? It's basically just a much more combustible ampitheater.
     
  18. Thena

    Thena Chosen One star 7

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    But what about the ancient Greeks, tho - are they completely blameless? [face_thinking]
     
  19. bstnsx704

    bstnsx704 Force Ghost star 5

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    What do you mean? He has 1,643 writing credits on IMDb!
     
  20. blackmyron

    blackmyron Chosen One star 7

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    Just recently, the better-known Senator from Arizona was the deciding vote to kill the American Film Quality Restoration Act of 2021.
    So, I'm saying that,
    ... ah, skip it.
     
  21. Darth Guy

    Darth Guy Chosen One star 10

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    IMDB? How much could Shakespeare bench press?
     
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  22. mnjedi

    mnjedi JCC Arena Game Host star 5 VIP - Game Host

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    Do you guys think that Deadliest Catch killed informational TV or was Discovery and similar networks move away from informative programming to bad reality tv and conspiracy theories about aliens inevitable?
     
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  23. Ramza

    Ramza Administrator Emeritus star 10 VIP - Former Mod/RSA

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    In the early 1600s the King’s Men largely transitioned to performing in the Blackfriar’s, which is an indoor venue that could remain open during the winter.

    Yeah you would believe that.
     
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  24. Jedi_Sith_Smuggler_Droid

    Jedi_Sith_Smuggler_Droid Force Ghost star 6

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    This proves what I’ve suspected for years - @Ramza is really a shill account paid to promote major Hollywood studio lantern shows.

    We all know the art form peaked with cooking fires and shadow puppets against the cave wall.
     
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  25. Rylo Ken

    Rylo Ken Chosen One star 7

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    Wicked Tuna > Deadliest Catch
     
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