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Discussion in 'Archive: The Amphitheatre' started by Spike_Spiegal, Jun 9, 2002.

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  1. MoonChild

    MoonChild Jedi Padawan star 4

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    Oooooh..... you're right! He is!
     
  2. Darth_Omega

    Darth_Omega Force Ghost star 6

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    It's a little hard for me to accept anyone but Mitsuishi Kotono as Usagi,

    I've to shamefully admit I've never seen Sailor Moon in the original Japanese version[face_blush]. It would be cool if she has a guest appearance in one of the episodes. I wouldn't mind hearing Misato Katsuragi again ;) :p

    And how about those Japanese commercials?

    "I'll always be watching you...especially when you're in the bathroom."

    "Eat this candy so that we can mind control you to join the Evil Evil Kitties."

    Those two made me laugh out loud :D
     
  3. Trell

    Trell Jedi Knight star 6

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    Amazing, simply amazing. I don't know whether to hate it for its idiocy, or like it because of it.

    I think I actually want to see the next one. Much the same way I bet the passangers on the Titanic couldn't take their eyes off of it as it went down I gather.

    Ronald McDonald scared me. :(
    Everything I have heard about Japanese commercials seems to be true. Just... odd.
     
  4. MoonChild

    MoonChild Jedi Padawan star 4

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    "Evil Evil Kitties"? Ooooooh
     
  5. Not_Applicable

    Not_Applicable Jedi Padawan star 4

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    Now you know why carnival sideshows stay in business.
     
  6. Trell

    Trell Jedi Knight star 6

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    Indeed. I loved how it seemed the side characters could all act better then Usagi's actress.

    The Kareoke scene disturebed me to.
     
  7. Darth_Omega

    Darth_Omega Force Ghost star 6

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    I loved how it seemed the side characters could all act better then Usagi's actress.

    Yeah, especially Naru and her mother. Perhaps it's difficult acting like an airhead :p

    The karaoke thing was disturbing, but so was the transformation and the transformation thingy she used to defeat the tentacle monster :)

    I'm wondering is there anything good about the show?
     
  8. Trell

    Trell Jedi Knight star 6

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    Those were to two characters I was talking about. It amazes me that a character actually figured something out in Naru's situation. They never do that.

    THe whole thing was fairly bad. Yet we both want to see more, odd. It was so weird how they had their own commercial on 3 times in one break.
     
  9. MoonChild

    MoonChild Jedi Padawan star 4

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    Really? Dude, I gotta see this!
     
  10. MoonChild

    MoonChild Jedi Padawan star 4

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    One good thing= Tuxedo Kamen...yummy


    :_| I WANNA SEE!!!!!!!
     
  11. thegreatyoda

    thegreatyoda Jedi Master star 4

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    For those who are interested [and considering this is an anime thread I'm sure there will be many] I am trying to put together a Cowboy Bebop/Star Wars Crossover fanfic. I have a thread in the Writer's Resource about it. If you either want to see it or want to help write it I would really appreciate you checking it out.

    Regarding the topic at hand: Is there any way to see this live action sailor moon here in the states? It sounds like it would be funny as heck. Is it on the internet? Cable? Where can I get my hands on it?
     
  12. Darth_Omega

    Darth_Omega Force Ghost star 6

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    THe whole thing was fairly bad. Yet we both want to see more, odd.

    That is odd, perhaps we're secretly liking it :eek:
     
  13. Trell

    Trell Jedi Knight star 6

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    I think so... :eek: :(

    Want to split the councilling bill 50/50? :( It's the same problem, I'm sure we can get a dscount.
     
  14. Lord_Riven

    Lord_Riven Jedi Master star 4

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    I wouldn't mind seeing a live action SM - at least the voice acting won't be as bad as the cartoon.
     
  15. MoonChild

    MoonChild Jedi Padawan star 4

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    Not if they redub it! ;)
     
  16. Darth_Omega

    Darth_Omega Force Ghost star 6

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    It's the same problem, I'm sure we can get a dscount.

    I think we can even get a group discount, I'm pretty sure we're not the only one with such problem ;)

    On a non related note, I've seen RahXephon, it's overall a good anime, I didn't enjoy it as much as I did with Evangelion.
     
  17. JediStarMoonstruck

    JediStarMoonstruck Jedi Master star 5

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    I read on the Anime News Network that Chobits is going to air on the Anime Network. I would like to see Chobits to see if I would like it. I really hope the Anime Network gets to a place where I can watch it soon.
     
  18. MoonChild

    MoonChild Jedi Padawan star 4

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    I don't get The Anime Network!!!
     
  19. Not_Applicable

    Not_Applicable Jedi Padawan star 4

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    I find it laughable that there's an "Anime Network" that features nothing but dubbed, heavily Americanized anime. And it's run by the most disrespectful, ethnocentric company of them all (ADeVil).
     
  20. Trell

    Trell Jedi Knight star 6

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    Oh please, ADV doesn't edit the anime, just dub it. The Anime Network airs only straight dubs. Nothing wrong with a dub.

    You want an "Americanized" anime as you put it? Look at what was done with Pokemon. They called rice cakes doughnuts for gods sake. The only americanized anime are aired on network TV, and the one or two networks they own.

    Initial D as far as I know is the ONLY straight to DVD, not aired on a network anime out there that has been edited. And I do believe you can access the real thing through the sub. And most fans will not buy even that. The companies are learning any edit is a no go. As a dub fan I would not watch that edited dub. It is no longer a dub, it has become an edit. Dubs are good, edits are evil. Totally diffrent the two, more sub fans need to see this.

    It's mostly Tokyo-Pop doing these edits to. The worst thing ADV does is pay for anime to be made that has a more Aerican feel than many would like.

    I just don't get Tokyo-Pop they claim they won't flip Manga anymore=good. Then they go and totally edit it though. Just bizzare.
     
  21. Not_Applicable

    Not_Applicable Jedi Padawan star 4

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    Um, ADV most certainly does edit and Americanize anime. In fact, every U.S. distribution company does it, ADV just happens to be worse than most (except for FUNimation, perhaps). Granted, I haven't seen an offical U.S. release in ages, but I simply can't believe they'd suddenly stop the practice that has been so profitable for them over the years. From my experience, even subtitled anime is Americanized quite a bit. I suppose you may need to know a thing or two about the language and culture to realize that, though.

    The fact is, to get anime to sell well in the U.S., the companies must Americanize them. A show packed with Japanese cultural references is an extremely hard sell to an American market, so it has to be modified to make it more palatable.

    From a business standpoint it makes a lot of sense. The question is whether or not it's acceptable to sacrifice cultural and artistic integrity in exchange for broader appeal. In my book, it's not.

    (Just to clarify, when I say "edit," I don't exactly mean changing names or minor story details. I mean stripping the Japanese culture from the shows and replacing it with something more favorable to American audiences.)
     
  22. MoonChild

    MoonChild Jedi Padawan star 4

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  23. JediStarMoonstruck

    JediStarMoonstruck Jedi Master star 5

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    What about the unedited Sailor Moon DVD set? That was sold under ADV and I've heard good things about it (with the execption of bad video and audio).
     
  24. Not_Applicable

    Not_Applicable Jedi Padawan star 4

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    Dunno. I haven't heard much of anything about it, but I have no reason to believe it's any different than the rest of ADV's releases. I imagine it's head over heels better than the U.S. broadcast version, though. Not that that's saying much.

    The keywords "unedited" and "uncut" generally refer to content rather than accuracy in translation.
     
  25. Trell

    Trell Jedi Knight star 6

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    Well, what I'm saying is that things have changed in the past decade. They have changed a lot. For the most pardt nothing is edited. What about InuYasha and popular shows like it? That show is about nothing but Japanese stuff. Editing as you know it is dead or dying for DVD releases. Initial D is the only example I know of right now where edits have been made. And there has been a strong reaction among those who know about this stuff in that regard. Go to a local book store and browse the manga there one day. Borrow a friends American released DVD's and watch the dub with the subs on. You will see that edits are about dead. A lot of Japanese culture is making it into American released anime now. Editing=dead really. Sure the first released VHS tapes suffered from this badlly. Even the first DVD's, but as a practice now, editing is dead accept for stuff shown on networks. Heck, the final season of Sailor Moon won't be released in the US at all (At least for a while I think) because there is so much in it that would have to be edited to keep it with the rest of Sailor Moons family image that the company will not do it at all. Instead of editing the "naughty bits" they just won't release it. While I agree it is a mistake to just not release it, this is better then editing it. It's a step in the right direction, albeat a bit of a mistep.

    You say you stay away fro mthe current releases? Well, I don't, and I'm friends with fans as hardcore as you who also don't they to agree editing is really dead. All you have to do to get the original is go to the sub version on your DVD. If you want the dub, you just have the lines re-worked to fit the mouth movements. The content of the line isn't changed at all.

    Also, watch Rurouni Kenshin on TV, I swear a good third of a lot of the episodes are in Japanese because they didn't translate the attack names and fighting styles. I can't keep up with it. That show is very Japanese, and was releases as such on the DVD. Even on Cartoon Network, all that was edited was some of the battles for TV. And I think that that type of editing is what is still needed to let anime gain acceptance. I watch Cartoon Network and you can really tell the people who run it love anime. They scurt the line between what is acceptable on TV often to leave it true and un altered.
     
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