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  1. GRANDADMIRALAXLROSE

    GRANDADMIRALAXLROSE Jedi Knight star 7

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    The best is Civil War
     
  2. DarthNut

    DarthNut Jedi Knight star 6

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    "all anti-war songs I've heard on the radio are from the 60's and 70's"
    What about Meglomaniac and Talk Show on Mute by Incubus, ok, maybe their more anti-Bush, but you get my drift. And I'm sure there's plently more.
     
  3. stecm

    stecm Jedi Padawan star 4

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    A few I know of are:

    "2 Minutes to Midnight" - Iron Maiden
    "Fortunate Son" - Creedence Clearwater Revival
    "War Pigs" - Black Sabbath
    "Disposable Heroes" - Metallica
    "Of Rage And War" - Savatage
     
  4. Darth_Tynaus

    Darth_Tynaus Jedi Padawan star 4

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    Yea, but there is such a thing as abusing your popularity concerning politics. Being a former soldier, I cannot stand anti-war people and they really upset me.
     
  5. winter_chili

    winter_chili Jedi Master star 5

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    Battle of Evermore is about war.


    the pain of war, can not exceed
    the woes of aftermath
     
  6. Eva_Pilot04

    Eva_Pilot04 Jedi Knight star 7

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    I'm still confused as to the topic of this thread. As many have stated before, most of what I hear on the radio is your standard rap/hip hop fare (that doesn't have any war messages at all, pro or anti) and dime a dozen rock bands that have more songs about angst than anything else.

    :confused:






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  7. Darth Dark Helmet

    Darth Dark Helmet Manager Emeritus star 6 VIP - Former Mod/RSA

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    I don't listen to the radio, nor do I listen to songs by artists who's music I dislike. So I'm no help here.
     
  8. LeeKenobi

    LeeKenobi Jedi Knight star 6

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    Current peace songs suck.


    They aren't real--just cookie-cutter pop songs with lyrics that all amount to "War is bad". (example: 99 red balloons. That song sucks. Royally)


    Now, if you want real protest music, look at the '60s.

    Instead of just saying "War is bad", they actually encourage the listener to actually think.

    Plus they are pretty damn catchy.

    War! Huh. Good God, y'all.
    What is it good for?
    Absolutely--nothin'
    Say it again, y'all.



    -Or-

    Some folks were born made to wave the flag,
    Lord, they're red, white and blue
    And when the band plays "Hail to the Chief"
    Ooh, they point the cannons at you.





    And I also love Springsteen:
    I had a buddy at Khe Sahn
    Fighting off the Viet Cong
    They're still there, he's all gone
    He had a little girl in Saigon
    I got a picture of him in her arms



    All of which were much better, and much more tasteful than "NO BLOOD FOR OIL".
     
  9. YodaKenobi

    YodaKenobi Former TFN Books Staff star 6 VIP

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    And I agree that "Fortunate Son" is the best anti-war song :D I love that song.
     
  10. Eva_Pilot04

    Eva_Pilot04 Jedi Knight star 7

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    I wouldn't really call 99 red balloons a current anti-war song. It's been around since the early '80s and had more to do with cold war paranoia than anything else. So, it's not really anti-war to begin with.





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  11. darthtenbiscuits

    darthtenbiscuits Jedi Grand Master star 7

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    What about Meglomaniac and Talk Show on Mute by Incubus, ok, maybe their more anti-Bush, but you get my drift. And I'm sure there's plently more.

    I've never heard "Meglomaniac" but I don't think "Talk Show On Mute" is really about war at all, but just a parody of western society as a whole.
     
  12. DarthAttorney

    DarthAttorney Manager Emeritus star 6 VIP - Former Mod/RSA

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    It seems those record companies have decided to release anti-war songs after the fact, when it's safe to be a dissenter. You can't tell me these anti-Government, anti-military, anti-war songs would have floated 2yrs ago, the record companies and the bands themselves would have railroaded right out of town. It's like they're reacting to popular sentiment and trying to pass themselves off as being in touch instead of actually being part of it and belieing what they say, like those 60's and 70's songs were in their day. I saw Mike Moore booed off stage when his film won an Oscar for Christ sake, now the same establishment encourages divergent views?

    Bah I say!

    Now it's cool to say the war was uncool so the kids can get out there and download a "No Blood For Oil" logo for their mobile phones at the nominal charge of $1!
     
  13. YodaKenobi

    YodaKenobi Former TFN Books Staff star 6 VIP

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    It seems those record companies have decided to release anti-war songs after the fact, when it's safe to be a dissenter. You can't tell me these anti-Government, anti-military, anti-war songs would have floated 2yrs ago, the record companies and the bands themselves would have railroaded right out of town. It's like they're reacting to popular sentiment and trying to pass themselves off as being in touch instead of actually being part of it and belieing what they say, like those 60's and 70's songs were in their day. I saw Mike Moore booed off stage when his film won an Oscar for Christ sake, now the same establishment encourages divergent views?
    Bah I say!
    Now it's cool to say the war was uncool so the kids can get out there and download a "No Blood For Oil" logo for their mobile phones at the nominal charge of $1!


    That's not true. Pearl Jam released their album Riot Act in November 2002 and it had anit war songs like "Help Help" and the anti-bush song "Bu$hleaguer". Granted, I think a lot of bands ARE jumping on the bandwagon now when it's safe, its not true that the record companies would stop them, as PJ put that album out through Sony/Epic :)
     
  14. Tod

    Tod Jedi Grand Master star 4

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    Two great anti-war songs (both by Yes):

    -Yours is No Disgrace
    -Gates Of Delirium




     
  15. DarthAttorney

    DarthAttorney Manager Emeritus star 6 VIP - Former Mod/RSA

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    Well Pearl Jam's schtick is anti-Government, anti-"the man" isn't it?
    If you were a big Pearl Jam fan, you'd be bloody diasppointed if they didn't do something y'know? ;)
     
  16. Protege-of-Thrawn

    Protege-of-Thrawn Manager Emeritus star 6 VIP - Former Mod/RSA

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    One of the best musical artists in the world (obviously IMHO) bases most of his music on an idealogical platform. Michael Franti has made it extremely big here in Australia and elsewhere, despite having his album opposed strongly in the US.

    Bomb the world - Michael Franti

    Please tell me the reason
    behind the colors that you fly
    love just one nation
    and the whole world we divide
    you say you?re ?sorry?
    say, ?there is no other choice?
    but god bless the people them
    who cannot raise their voice

    (chorus)
    we can chase down all our enemies
    bring them to their knees
    we can bomb the world to pieces
    but we can?t bomb it into peace
    whoa we may even find a solution
    to hunger and disease
    we can bomb the world to pieces
    but we can?t bomb it into peace

    violence brings one thing
    more more of the same
    military madness
    the smell of flesh and burning pain
    so I sing out to the masses
    stand up if you?re still sane!
    To all of us gone crazy
    I sing this one refrain

    (chorus)

    and I sing power to the peaceful
    love to the people y?all
    power to the peaceful
    love to the people y?all
     
  17. hanshootsfirst

    hanshootsfirst Jedi Youngling star 2

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    I think anti-war (and pro-war) rock songs suck because they aren't interactive.

    Whenever an artist has a one-sided conversation (or lecture) with his/her listener, it's going to be lame, whatever ideology is espoused.

    Anti war, pro war, pro choice, pro sunshine, anti cancer. Doesn't matter. Stop lecturing me and tell me a story, bitch.
     
  18. Eva_Pilot04

    Eva_Pilot04 Jedi Knight star 7

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    >>It seems those record companies have decided to release anti-war songs after the fact, when it's safe to be a dissenter. You can't tell me these anti-Government, anti-military, anti-war songs would have floated 2yrs ago, the record companies and the bands themselves would have railroaded right out of town. It's like they're reacting to popular sentiment and trying to pass themselves off as being in touch instead of actually being part of it and belieing what they say, like those 60's and 70's songs were in their day. I saw Mike Moore booed off stage when his film won an Oscar for Christ sake, now the same establishment encourages divergent views?<<

    Again, where are these so-called anti-war songs? Am I living in a black hole here? I haven't heard anything on the radio, or on any cds I've purchased recently, anyone here has described. :confused:






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  19. LeeKenobi

    LeeKenobi Jedi Knight star 6

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    And I agree that "Fortunate Son" is the best anti-war song I love that song.

    Because CCR is one of the best bands in the world.

    Period.


    What makes them great is that they don't limit themselves to one particular style.

    They go from rock (Fortunate Son) to Country (Cotton Fields) to old Negro spirituals (The Midnight Special)
     
  20. Devilanse

    Devilanse Jedi Knight star 5

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    I cannot stand anti-war people and they really upset me.

    Yeah! We need more war!!! Bush!!! If you win...please start wars in the following countries...

    China
    Mexico
    England
    Scotland
    Ireland


    Because we need more war!!!! WAAAAARRRRR!!!!!!

    Now, if you want real protest music, look at the '60s.

    Instead of just saying "War is bad", they actually encourage the listener to actually think.


    Way to defeat your own argument. All the examples you listed boil down to simply....yep, you got it...WAR IS BAD.

     
  21. stecm

    stecm Jedi Padawan star 4

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    I don't think "Fortunate Son" boils it down to "War is bad"...
     
  22. Ewok15

    Ewok15 Jedi Master star 4

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    Fortunate Son was more about the Draft I think
     
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