Blink 182, Greenday and Good Charlotte are not punk.

Eagles of Death Metal kick ass, GrandAdmiralPelleaon!


And for the record, the Sex Pistols sucked too!

P.I.L. was cool though.

 

wow. did someone invent a flux capacitor? because this thread is straight out of 5 years ago.

 

The Dead Kennedys and Crass have nothing on lines like 'She left me roses by the stairs. Suprises let me know she cares'.



They didn't have proper punk haircuts either. Posers.

 

Listen to JediHPDRummer, he speaks the truth.


People are so funny these days...

I hear it all the time: "that band's not punk", "he's not punk", that's not what punk supposed to be"...it's getting pretty pathetic.

To hear people talk today, you'd think that punk has become the most conservative of all genres.

I'm pretty sure that a band like Good Charlotte would not call themselves punk if they were handling their own business. It's probably the label that insists on calling them punk.

Another funny thing is that The Clash used to get heat from fans when they ventured into Reggae and Ska. People were like "that's not punk". The Clash decided not to care about other people's opinions and do what they felt was right...and that, my friends, is the essence of true punk IMO.

 

I got back from a Greenday concert last night.
Best show ive seen


Not punk though. Thier first CD, and maybe their 2nd, but after nope.

Nothing wrong with that though.

 

blink-182 no longer calls themselves punk. Their reinvented themselves and they said that they'd like to permanately back away from that genre. They're more alternative rock like Incubus.

Good Charlotte is just bubble gum rock who's biggest fans are middle school-aged girls.

Green Day is probably the closest thing to punk on there. Yet they still refer to themselves as pop-punk.

I will say that Green Day's and blink's new album really proved that they had talent. Their riffs are heavier and the lyrics are just great. And Travis Barker is probably one of the best drummers in the world. At the Pop Distaster Tour I did an 8 minute drum solo we'll being rotated upside down. And it sounded great. I'd say you'd have more respect for them if you see them live.

GC on the other hand just sucks. I want to shoot the lead singer every time I see him on TV. They dress like goths but who are they fooling?

 

The Dead Kennedys and Crass have nothing on lines like 'She left me roses by the stairs. Suprises let me know she cares'.



Classic MyKe!

 

"Blink 182, Greenday and Good Charlotte are not punk."

No truer words have ever been said

 

Maybe i shouldn't of put the album next to Sgt. Pepper or Blonde on Blonde, or Let it Bleed. But I do beleive it will be one of those top albums in the future.
The Clash got the same treatment as these bands are getting. The Clash went into this interesting original sound during Saddinista.
It was like Reggae with folk with punk. But the fans said "this is not punk." But does that really matter? Saddanista is one of my favorite albums of all time. I think Green Day is getting there;
Music is also about evolution imho. I love it when bands are different every album while still having their stamp on each album. When a band makes the same album twice or even thrice, it gets repetetive. One can only think the Beatles. Rubber Soul, Revolver, Sgt.Pepper, Magical Mystery, White, Abby and Let it Be all had different sounds to their album. Same with Zeppelin or floyd or ELO and many other bands. This is what Blink, GC and GD are trying to do. The new BLink 182 album was full of sound i never thought i would of heard from these guys. I dont like GC, but the new album sounds a little different. And i've already explained the new green day album.
Sometimes people don't want a new sound or don't like the way the band is going. And that's fine. But please don't say that their music sucks because they are not punk or don't fit that particular genre. Please keep an openmind.

Another issue i want to bring up is that these bands are all mainstream. But for some reason people complain that mainstream bands suck for some reason; and how they aren't "artful" enough? These people just listen to Indie bands and they get this elitist attitude. These people ar very closeminded and all they accept are indie bands. They can't even give a listen to these new bands. They get into this stereotype that all mainstream albums suck because ??? i dont know what reason?
Granted; I do love many indie bands or Artists like frou frou, koop, madelein peyroux, travis, zero 7, rufus wainwright, ben harper, rilo kiley, bjork, bebel gilberto, jill scott etc...
But I give these bands the same equal ground as a mainstream band. I also love the shins, green day, oasis, the vines, mosdef. These new mainstream bands and artists are just as good or better than these indie bands. All these bands can be "Artful". Whatever that means?

 

You "punk" people are the biggest hypocrites. Seriously, if you go to punk rock clubs nowadays, everyone is just trying to fit in. And you guys rag on other people's music because it doesn't meet your "hardcore" standards. Yet those people continue to listen to their music in spite of that. Who's the more punk rock?

 

That's why bands like GC who let their label well... label them is pathetic.

No, it's not.

What's pathetic is young people who believe that Good Charlotte is punk when in fact it's pop-rock. You have to understand that GC aren't selling themselves as punk, their record label is. Huge difference.

You see, GC's job isn't to market themselves, their job is to write music and perform it. They are not a DIY punk band, they're a pop-rock band being sold as a punk band by their record label.

So you cannot judge them as a punk band. You cannot say they are sellouts since they were never punk to begin with.

 

I always find it amusing how people throw around the word "sellout" like it's a concept straight from Satan himself.

Let's face it kids: being a sellout basically means you're making yourself a living. If you're going to seriously rip on these people for taking advantage of an opportunity to be mega-rich and mega-famous then I suggest you sell all your stuff and quit your job/move out of Mom's basement and go squat in an abandoned house somewhere and attempt to make your mark as a "punk band/artist" with no record label or manager of any kind. It's hard.

I agree that the definition of "punk" has changed - the media and pop culture has obviously shaped it to what will sell best to the masses. But sitting around arguing about what it used to be and how much it sucks now only makes the whole scene full of snobby elitists.

 

how did punk become mainstream anyways....i always thought that was one of the things it was rebeling against...

 

Hey..Newsflash people. Who cares what they are?

Hell I like them all. It's not about the fricken sound...it's about the lyrics...sure some of it is about the sound..but who really gives a ****?

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And what do you call punk? What do you call rock. What do yoiu call anything.

Get a life and stop dissing people just because you think there wrong. There definly making more moeny then y'all.

Amos edit: That's a flame. Basically, this is the same as the Blink 182 fan club. If you don't like this thread, JediKnightEmily, then don't post in it

 

Green Day may not be punk, but they are a great band. Their new CD "American Idiot" is their best effort to date. Better than Dookie. The first 8 or 9 songs are amazing. Well worth your 15 bucks

Blink 182 and Good Charlotte are tired bands. Blink was good for an album or two, but their last 2 CDs have been bad.

Good Charlotte is what i call Glam Alternative. Bands like Good Charlotte and the likes remind me of bad hair metal bands like Warrant and Slaughter that we use to make fun of for being obvious water down copies of good bands.


But Green Day rocks.



Clone

 

IMO, The only modern bands today that can be considered "punk" are Rancid, NOFX, and Distillers. And ofcourse, Blink 182, Green Day and Good Charlotte are not punk. I admit I am a fan of Blink 182, and they are becoming worthy of being called "alternative".

But the thing is, compare it to all the classic punk bands: Sex Pistols, THE DAMNED, Clash, Crass, Siouxie and the Banshees, The Stooges, Buzzcocks, Talking Heads, well...you have to admit, the new so called "punk" bands sound nothing like the old stuff.

Point is, punk can't be ressurected. Unless, ofocurse, alot of the older bands get reunited and stuff...unlikely.

 

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Punk is alive and well in a new generation.

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"[insert band] is not punk, they do not fit the proper culture and stereotype of what punk should look and/or sound like. They do not conform to the standards of punk that I am used to, in fact, let me compare them to the good music from twenty years ago that my parents listened to...now that was good music. None of this trashy stuff kids today try to listen to."

 

Again:

Punk in 2004 = conservative