The Mandalorian Bo-Katan in The Mandalorian (Spoilers)

I wonder whats the bigger and most noble house. Kryze or Viszla. Both have had rulers of their house, both are of royal famalies. But Kryze has been the royal family for long time.

 

would guess Vizsla is the more noble house given its history but seemed to have lost almost all relevance at some point and Kryze likely took over. Pre clearly wanted to reclaim what he deemed a lost birthright.

Since we are taking about Mandos, who act like Vikings, its likely about Wars and strenght that mattered most and what decided who is in charge for longest time.

 

Intresting about past Mandalore leaders is only the Viszla ones had the Darksaber. So what happenned if another house or clan became leader without the Darksaber.? Was the other items that you could posess to say this is symbol for leadership. Its intresting thought when Mandalorians passed on the Viszla and turned to others like the Kryze family.

 

My guess
its clear the sword stayed with Vizsla family and its linked to who is head of the House. And Tarre Vizsla isn't even the 1st Mando Ruler too. So prior to that, it wasn't even a thing.

so the sword lost its power and significance at some pont. I would guess that the sword lost relevance in same time that House Vizsla got dethroned. Maybe those who took over had no interest in using a relic that belonged to another House so used something that is tied to their House.

since we don't know the timeline of events, its possible that Vizsla didn't get dethroned in something closer to TCW like 100 years before or something. In that sense its likely that the darksaber was tied to the Ruler for close to 1000 years. As it seems the sacking of the Jedi temple was like over 1000 years prior to Battle of Yavin.

the Legend of the sword looks to be something none have forgotten too.

then Pre-Vizsla is one who brought the back the whole thing again, his living legacy, lol.

 

If we take what Fen Rau said of the Darksaber. After Members of House Viszla took the Darksaber, they United all of Mandalore. And more Mandalorian wars with the Old Republic and Jedi order. That resulted in a damage Mandalore and domed cities. Maybe House Kryze been the royal family for few centuries. Tarre Viszla is the legendary king Arthur of Mandalore.

Before him we got hints of the first Mandalore leader. Mandalore The Great, similar to Mandalore the Ultimate in the EU, might have been force senstive. Who became its leader by taming a Mythosaur and made war and qonquest on the galaxy. Mutch of Mandalore space is thanks to him, he fought against the Republic and Jedi order. And after their first defeat they started to build armor and Tech to combat jedi force powers. You also got the mask of Mandalore the Great that is almost like Darksaber.

There's 10 000 years of Mandalorian history.

 

House Vizsla are definition of war mongers. Its like everyone that followed craved to create his own legacy and increasing their power and influence. Its a good thing they don't rule anymore as its that type that led to their homeworld to go to ruin and lose relevance for a long time and add the neverending infighting.

now that I think about it, Bo said that her armor has been in her family for 3 generations. That could be when House Kryze took over. We also don't know how old her father was either when he died.

yeah I think Mandalore The Great is likely a force sensitive. I don't see how a human can do that and as you said a lot of the tech was created later to fight Jedi. So he tamed one with what??? Its also ironic if he used force powers to gain his Political Power make himself look really powerful taming a beast and then wage war against other force sensitives in the Jedi.

and we've seen little Grogu and how he had effect on Mudhorn+Rancor, so its already part of the show's canon. So my guess he'll play a role for that topic. I don't think he'll beat it but could influence it so that others manage to tame it.

 

I dont think how old the armor is tells us when Kryze family took over. Sabine’s armor is over 500 years old, and they are part of house Viszla, but intresting enough has maybe change side to house Kryze during the Clone Wars and rebellion era, maybe even before.

And from whats said of House Viszla except Tarre Viszla. They are all war mongers, in both canon and EU. From when they take the Darksaber and rule with an iron fist, to Mandalorian civil wars in EU to Pre Viszla who creates a terrorist faction.

The intresting part is each clan and House has maybe their own planet and moon. If remember right Mandalore space covers over 2000 neutral systems/planets?

 

but if armor isn't that old it might mean that Kryze isn't than old. One wonders if Kryze isn't an offshot of Vizla? Sometimes to claim throne one has to have same bloodline as the Royal family that you topple to make it legitimite.

yes I believe it's been said in TCW that Mandalore Space covers 2000 systems/planets and that is only reason why Maul did all of that Mafioso to take over.

curious to see how much sway a Rebuild Mandalore will get in future?: And how many systems/planets align with them? Would be unlikely after so long of them being out of power than they can gain influence over all 2000.

 

They probably still had that influence until The Great Purge. And Rebuilding Mandalore will be intresting if they keep that big space. No other big faction has taken it so far. Empire gone and New Republic is in their own space.

I think some armors are new and older. Din's armor is new. I think sometimes they inherit old gear and sometimes they make new ones.

The Kryze family is probably related to the Viszla family. Both i think comes from Tarre Viszla, maybe even Mandalore the great. One big House that at one point splits up. Kryze probably few centuries old coming from House Viszla. Clan Wren probably also related to House Viszla.

 

do wonder if a faction from those 2000 took over that space in the time after the Purge? Basically post Empire as they were uneffected by Purge.

that could be the next problem in S4., when you have your ex Overlords return but your the one in charge and doing the bullying, lol. And they might not be estatic about the Mandos return too.

there will always be opportunist and factions that rise to power.

Reclaiming Mandalore would be just 1st thing in long things to do to really fully reastablish yourself.. Would be surprising if Gideon dies too, so he too would likely make problems. One would assume that he tries to derail their return this season and fails too.

that is why this season need to decide whoever shall rule so going forward by end of season. Whether Bo, Din, both. You need clear 100% leader before you can start to rebuild.

its already very unlikely that Bo will make any real problems. If she challenges for the saber that's her right and neither has to die as so far only Pre died in dual for saber. But she has no interest in Mandos infighting so outside of a possible duel nothing else has to happen.

kinda funny how almost all marketing tried to push idea of Bo as an antagonist too.

 

I wonder what happened to Satine Nephew Korkie Kryze in the New Republic Era for me Korkie is the True Son of Obi Wan and Satine pretended to be his Aunt

 

But I ain't one to gossip....so you ain't heard that from me....

 

Honestly I'm 100% behind Korkie being Satine and Obi Wan's kid

 

Korkie, a Mandalorian Jedi.
I’m good with that. Sorry Grogu.

 

Korkie Kryze is the perfect balance between pacifist and warrior Mandalorian culture. He was raised his aunt as a politician. He might have become the new senator for Mandalore in dark times, the Imperial era. He might have joined The Rebellion after his world rebelled.

 

Interesting how Paz didn’t recognize Bo Katan unless that was an act and there’s more to that later.

But as if I wasn’t already 100% positive Bo will become Mandalore, this episode solidifies that even more. Bo clearly being the only one seeing the Mythosaur, her atonement, and another closing shot of her staring into the Mando skull at the end, yup. She’ll be leading everyone by the time it’s all said and done.

 

Just when Bo thought she was out, they pull her back in!

 

I'm betting it will be a while before we see Bo's face again.

 

Maybe two episodes.

 

There's a subtle, smart detail here: now we can't read Bo-Katan reactions thanks a convenient plot device.
Thus far her facial expressions always gave away what she was feeling/thinking.
No longer.
Maybe she's really happy to go back to the clan, or maybe not and she's plotting to become the mandalorian leader again taking down the Armorer and Djin..

 

I was thinking similarly about all the Mandos and their masks/helmets. You can't quite read them, they're mysterious, until they make their move, which might be...more inexpressive silence..prompting you to react/make a move!

This makes it easier for them (well, anyone wearing a mask) to conceal their true feelings and intentions.

For the COTW there is a broader Creed to work within too. But Bo...she's following her own path it seems to me.

I can see her potentially revealing her "true self" in a scene where she removes her helmet. The reveal about what her true intentions are, remains to be seen...

 

From Bo being shaken up post-bathe in the living quarters, to seeing her expression when he castles blown up, and even her uneasiness being involuntarily accepted into Din's covert...If the actress is good, needing to see facial expressions is overrated. Bo captured every emotion perfectly with all of her body mannerisms.