Boba Fett Jedi Killer or Not?

The real question is how come I didn't notice it was locked?

 

Because a wizard did it.

 

Wow guys, I'm sorry, I was unaware this had already been done. I did look but typing in the keywords Boba Fett and Jedi hit me back with so many things I got totally lost.

Heh talk about an epic fail on the first thread I started.

 

Boba Fett is more then capable of killing a Jedi, his father managed after all. How many is subject to debate, but Fett does not strike me as the kind who needs to inflate his reputation, he earned it.

He had a renound reputation for disintergrating people too, but I've little recollection of him doing much of that either. Doesn't mean he didn't do it.

If GL bows to fan pressure and features Jedi or the Jedi Purge in the new Live Action series, I think we'll see Boba Fett deployed to kill some.

 

Yeah, but they're Jedi kids. Traviss sees no moral troubles in killing Jedi kids. Read Order 66. I guess in her reasoning, they brought Order 66 upon themselves by existing, so it really is their own fault if some rightful Mando slaughters them. Travissverse logic. Good riddance if it is decanonised really.

Yes, and he managed a glorious escape too to brag of his great victory ...

Of course, in Geonosis, killing Jedi was kind of like shooting fish in a barrel. In other circumstances, it is doubtful any Fett would have scored much of a hit, especially in 1 on 1 encounters (as seen on Kamino). Boba was less competent than his father to boot, not being able to shoot someone standing a few meters in front of him. So much for Super Warrior Boba, I guess.

 

I cannot accept that Coleman Trebor was a fish in a barrel. His entire purpose was to show us that, "Jango Fett is so good that he can kill a Jedi" (and provide a bit of foreshadowing for Order 66) and, as such, one would assume that Boba Fett is more than capable of killing your average Jedi, too. Sure, Jango Fett couldn't defeat Obi-Wan Kenobi -- but Ben isn't remotely representative of the average Jedi.

That is not to say that Boba's reputation wasn't vastly overstated in Revelation, because it was, but it's one thing to object to that borderline Vader-reputation and entirely another to object to the very notion that Boba Fett could kill Jedi. He's one of the greatest non-FS warriors in the history of the galaxy, so of course he could.

And that's assuming that they're facing off one-on-one, his chances would skyrocket assuming he's set traps and whatnot.

Now, Boba Fett as a Dark Jedi killer is an entirely different story. Against a Jedi, Boba has the luxury of facing opponents who don't abuse the Force. Against a Dark Jedi, well....

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(Not that he didn't manage to escape in a suitably badass fashion from the above)

 

The entire setup at GEonosis amounts to fish in a barrel style jedi shooting. Yu can overwhelm JEdi with sheer numbers. If they'Re already busy deflecting and/or dodging fire from several droids, it is relatively easy to shoot them in the back.

Please do not forget how Mace just chopped up the Fett when he tried to pull that on him while he was not under fire already.

While I do think a Fett is technically capable of killing a JEdi, I have serious doubts Boba, of all people, who was like, 12, during the end of the Clone Wars, would ever have killed any Jedi. Similarily, any Boba vs. Jedi encounters are C-Canon, at best, certainly not G-Canon. In G-Canon, Boba Fett is a name that scares scoundrels, but has little impact on anyone else. Please note the sneering disgust the Imperial Fleet officers display towards the bounty hunters in ESB. No word of Fett worship there.

 

but Trebor wasn't under fire by the droids at the time Jango killed him either and Mace, like Obi-wan, is not an example of the average Jedi. Nor is Trebor for that matter. He's a council member after all so he has to be pretty effective.

 

Or, my personal favorite fix, Boba kills Ahsoka.

 

As pointed out already, Coleman Trebor was not under fire from droids (though one could infer that he wasn't at peak, given that he's had to fend them off in order to reach Dooku) -- the only person firing at him was Jango Fett.

Mace Windu is one of the most powerful Jedi in the history of the Order and, to be fair, Jango was not aware that his jetpack wasn't functioning. George Lucas even went so far as to add an effect of it being destroyed to the DVD release, so as to further emphasise this point.

Had Jango known he couldn't fly away he'd have probably tried something different than taking a step back, activating his jetpack and then going, "Huh?" as his head flew off.

Mace would have wiped the floor with him, obviously, but it wouldn't have been over quite so fast.

Then we're done here, aren't we?

I'm not claiming that Boba Fett killed any Jedi during or immediately preceding the Clone Wars. I'm challenging this, specifically:

Of course, in Geonosis, killing Jedi was kind of like shooting fish in a barrel. In other circumstances, it is doubtful any Fett would have scored much of a hit, especially in 1 on 1 encounters (as seen on Kamino). Boba was less competent than his father to boot, not being able to shoot someone standing a few meters in front of him. So much for Super Warrior Boba, I guess.

Anything else that might've been said before that isn't on my radar.

The C-Canon encounters do not contradict anything from the G-Canon, as such the only word you need to concentrate on is "canon".

The letters system is internal and matters only insofar as contradictions are concerned.

So Imperial officers don't like bounty hunters... what bearing does that have on Boba Fett's skill? "Please note" that the use of bounty hunters was Vader's idea and that we're introduced to Boba Fett as an individual who has worked with Vader before. And, given Vader's habit of dispatching those who fail him....

By disintegration! In front of Anakin! XD

 

The issue isn't that Bobby's incapable of taking out Jedi - as Uli said, he's an immensely competent individual and his reputation (as a top-tier badass, not as a Jedi killer) is well deserved.

The problem with Revelation's assertion is that, given Ms Traviss's own timeline of Bobby's life, it's simply not possible for him to have killed any significant number of Jedi, let alone more than anyone else, ever. By the time he became a bounty hunter, there couldn't have been more than a handful of Jedi left; certainly not enough for him to surpass the kill counts of prolific Jedi-killers such as Aurra Sing, Asajj Ventress, Grievous, and, of course, Lord Vader.

 

My point is not they dislike him, but the way they sneer. They don't seem impressed or afraid in the least.

Also, Vader employs the Fett as one of several Bounty Hunters, not alone, because apparently, he is not the Best of the Best of the Best as many other sources (comics, books) try to make him out, not in this movie. He certainly is good, but nowhere close to a figure of dread like Vader. That's where I see a valid discontinuity.

And Vader, by George's Grace, is by far the most prolfic Jedi killer. Fett maybe has one Jedi on his mark, if he was very lucky.

As for the fish in a barrel analogy: The Jedi were in a very tight spot there. What would that encounter have looked like if Coleman Trebor had not had to fight off droids and deal with Dooku? What if Dooku had not, as one could infer, force-boosted the Fett? Odds are, he would not have been victorious.

 

Wait, what? Where is the slightest evidence of that?

 

That not the issue at all, Trip. What you're talking about only derails the thread & makes it easier for people to dogpile critisize Ms. Traviss. Everyone agrees that she overinflated Fett's ego by saying that he's the best Jedi hunter EVAR. It was a silly thing & it's in the past. IC POV's are not always canon, cause the character could be lying to themselves or someone. I think the issue, like that mangy horse, is dead. Or should stop get beaten on while it's dead, or whatever.

Boba Fett Jedi Killer or Not? It's really a yes or no answer. Sorry to bring it up, I'd just rather this thread not get locked so soon.

 

While the topic is more about Boba Fett and not Jango Fett, I have to totally say if that was the point of that scene then it utterly failed. Jango Fett didn't do anything that showed "great skill" he fired three times at the mid body. We see Padawans defend against much more deadly attacks than that. Trebor wasn't capable of blocking three, slowly fired, blaster bolts. Then they show us average Jedi deflecting machine gun bursts.

Had Jango Fett done something impressive, like I don't know, leap in the air with his jet pack, twist in mid leap, and shoot a hail of blaster bolts from an inverted airborne position then that scene would prove that Jango's superior skill allowed the kill.

He didn't do that.

He fired three blaster bolts, at a rather slow rate compared to what we saw already, at a Jedi who showed highly inferior skill with a saber when compared to other Jedi featured.

 

He wouldn't be in a position to know that.

RETCON: Unless someone connected to Luke had told him for some reason.

 

Boba Fett might have seen some Jedi who died on Geonosis fade. Of course, that contradicts the fact that Qui-Gon apparently "learned" the technique, but we have earlier Jedi like Arca Jeth doing it, so why not?

Alternatively, it's not unreasonable that some Jedi's death received media coverage...

 

Not Yoda's, at least.

And I think the stormtroopers who saw Obi-Wan disappear got blowed up real good...

IMO a post-PT book should keep continuity with the Qui-Gon thing instead of Arca Jeth. However, the same thing happened in Coruscant Nights.

 

I was referring to an NJO Jedi, actually. Is it ever stated which Jedi do/don't disappear? Because there's sort of a hanging loose end: how did Luke learn the technique, or how did Mara? I would expect that Mara learned it through Luke, but I doubt Yoda spent time teaching Luke how to die.

 

Really? If you're going to consider a thread a failure because it covers ground already covered, you'll never start any! Or to put it another way, you're on the internet, do you really reckon there's something new to find?

Seriously, you're doing fine.

As to your Q: I find it hard to buy into Fett as a Jedi-killer, superb hunter and killer for everyone else? Yes. Force-users? Different thing entirely.

I suppose Fett could be likened to a SW Batman, he can kill Jedi so long as he has time to prepare, but that's about it for me.

 

I would assume Luke learned from the Force ghosts, which is how Yoda and Ben learned in the first place.

 

In that case, it's not unreasonable that Fett might have seen Jedi die and fade during the NJO...

 

Considering Fett's career as a bounty hunter, I think it's safe to assume that he sufficiently prepared himself when/if he went after Jedi bounties.

It's safe to say that Fett has killed Jedi before. It's been hinted at in more than a few stories, and not just by Fett. There's a reason Darth Vader respects Fett, and it's not because he's good at killing ordinary people.

As for the officer sneering at the bounty hunters, I always took it to be a matter of indignation. By hiring bounty hunters, scum that hasn't been trained in an Imperial Academy, Vader is displaying a lack of faith in Imperial officers to do the job.
Also, notice how he says so in a hushed voice, as if he's afraid that one will hear him.

 

Boba Fett killed Lowbacca?!

Nah, they're probably Ewok scalps.