Bombing the Geonosis Arena: Yay or Nay?

But they have aircraft, droid foundries, and some sort of rudimentary indigenuous ranged-weapons technology.

 

Definately yay for bombing

 

Why bomb?

If that stupid BMF Mace Windu would have taken a few Jedi with him to Dooku and the leaders of the Seperatists (of which only the TF-goons were in the arena, IIRC) he could have arrested them all (and offered resistance to the battledroids). But the battle of Geonosis clearly shows, what they said at the beginning: "We are keepers of the peace, not soldiers."

 

The bomb would've killed a lot of crucial players in the Clone Wars, but I'm of the opinion Sidious would have found a new apprentice or someone to use as the leader of the Confederacy and the war would still have begun. Whether or not Order 66 and the establishment of the Empire would've been as easy to accomplish is something only fanfic can surmise. You can safely say that with Anakin dead the Empire would've ruled the galaxy forever.

 

forget bombing the arena, just toss a thermal into Dooku's platform, one into the Senate podium, and one down Anakin's throat, and poof, no more Sith, no Clone Wars.

 

Nay.

Bombing the arena would only delay the inevitable. And in the long run, the loss of Padmé, Obi-Wan, and Anakin might prove to be a greater blow for the Republic than the loss of Dooku and the Separatist leaders would be to the Confederacy. The Clone Wars could end up being longer and far more bloody. Plus, such an act would generate some sympathy for the Separatist cause.

 

Hindsight's a wonderful thing...

 

And in the long run, the loss of Padmé, Obi-Wan, and Anakin might prove to be a greater blow for the Republic than the loss of Dooku and the Separatist leaders would be to the Confederacy.



That's a good one. The loss of one extremely naive and stupid senator, Rampage the Padawan and one powerful Knight would set back the Republic... You were kidding. Right?

The Clone Wars could end up being longer and far more bloody.

Actually the Clone Wars would have been quite short if Palpatine and Dooku didn't keep prolonging it. And without Dooku holding the Confederacy together during the early years of the war and bringing new planets under the banner they wouldn't have stood a chance.

 

That's a good one. The loss of one extremely naive and stupid senator, Rampage the Padawan and one powerful Knight would set back the Republic... You were kidding. Right

Maybe not so much concerning Padmé, but Obi-Wan and Anakin are near-legends by the time of ROTS, and are responsible for more than one Republic victory. The loss of them wouldn't be crippling, but it would be significant.



Actually the Clone Wars would have been quite short if Palpatine and Dooku didn't keep prolonging it. And without Dooku holding the Confederacy together during the early years of the war and bringing new planets under the banner they wouldn't have stood a chance.

Palps would have prolonged the war with or without Dooku. And if Dooku had died, he would simply find someone else.

 

Palps would have prolonged the war with or without Dooku. And if Dooku had died, he would simply find someone else.

Which would take time. And he would need to find a new apprentice and train him. All of which would take time and really mess up his plans.

 

I think that Anakin would have survived because the war was planned by Paplatine in the first place and he probably would have wanted Anakin to be spared and Dooku knows this so the bombing by the clone troopers made it easier for Dooku to start the war of course i don't think the clones knew yet of the plans but they are so eager to please no matter who is in charge (at least early on)

 

Bombing the arena wasn't Palpatine's call. It was Mace's.

 

Which would take time. And he would need to find a new apprentice and train him. All of which would take time and really mess up his plans.

Exactly. And during that time, the war would be going on.

He could possibly halt the fighting for a certain amount of time, but then he wouldn't have much of an excuse to stay in office.

 

The jedi could possibly have a no man/woman/alien left behind thing like the Army rangers and Marines do. This may have been what prevented him from just ordering a plantery bombardment.

 

What info do we have on the use of bombardment throughout the Clone Wars?

As I have this hunch that the galaxy in AOTC had a somewhat Napoleonic notion of war, whereby armies fight armies and civilian deaths are minimised. The notion of pre-mediated civilian bombing en masse with the aim of as many deaths and injuries as possible belongs to WW2, where it was known war was anything but a noble game.

At the same time, if the galaxy was riven by the separatists simply leaving, will bombing a planet without a declaration of war really solve the problem? It may take care of the cancerous part of the Separatists, the core leaders, but the Separatists would also have a potent group of martyrs with which to rally support to their cause. Also the Republic would have proven negotiations were a sham, so guaranteeing war in the long run. Possibly with the Jedi turning against the Republic due to its act of murder, as the Jedi saw it, on Geonosis. That in turn would imperil Palp's overall plan hence no bombing.

JB

 

Palpatine planned the war.....When Dooku got away from Yoda he went to Palpatine with the Death Star plans and said that the war has started i dont remember the exact words but it was done in way that Suggested that it was part of the plan for the Republic to not only discover the clones on Kamino but to have a war with the separtists and as you know Palpatines is behind both Separtists movement using Dooku for that and of course the Republic which he is heading....yes Mace or Yoda called for the bombing at Genosis but the war itself was set in motion by the ingenius plan of Palpatine. Everything that happened to the Republic is the result of being under the influence of Palpatine or should i say the shroud of the darkside.

 

You're refering to sonic blasters, which will do massive damage to internal organs. They're not anything to be trifled with. Of course, the Geonosian society clearly has different priorities than most human ones.

Anyways, it's not just "What's more efficient?" when you're a Jedi Knight. You can't expect Mace to say "I'll kill my good friend Obi-Wan and 2 other good people, along with a ton of civilians, because it'll probably help the greater good." That's the kind of thinking that pushes people towards the dark side. You can't expect the jedi to be able to make that sort of harsh tradeoff, because as Mace says, they wouldn't be Jedi anymore.

Also, I'm not sure how feasible it would have been. Weren't the Republic's ships busy on blockade duty, and thus unable to engage in bombardment? Is there any record of the bomb that Depa mentioned?

 

Exactly. And during that time, the war would be going on.

Unless the seperatist movement got crushed because his apprentice wasn't in charge of the other side. Dooku and Palpatine kept the Clone War alive for quite some time.

yes Mace or Yoda called for the bombing at Genosis but the war itself was set in motion by the ingenius plan of Palpatine.

Did we see the same movie? There was no bombing on Geonosis. Mace didn't do it. Therefore Dooku and the Seppies escaped and started fighting on multiple fronts.

 

Unless the seperatist movement got crushed because his apprentice wasn't in charge of the other side.

Palpatine wouldn't let that happen. Even if he had no control, the Confederacy was held together by more than just Dooku.

 

Palpatine wouldn't let that happen. Even if he had no control, the Confederacy was held together by more than just Dooku.

Commerce heads. Who were in the Geonosis Arena IIRC.

I take it you've never seen this thing called the OT? You know those babies at the end of ROTS? Yeah, they're kinda important.

P.S. They help Vader kill the Emperor. [/spoiler]

How could you spoil the OT!

 

Commerce heads. Who were in the Geonosis Arena IIRC.

They could have been easily replaced.

 

They could have been easily replaced.

By people less competent then themselves and whom Palpatine probably didn't have control over.

 

By people less competent then themselves

They'd be competent enough.



and whom Palpatine probably didn't have control over.

He could gain it easily.

 

They'd be competent enough.

Maybe. They might not have been able to convince as many planets to join the CIS. Esp. without Dooku's silver tongue.

He could gain it easily.

Maybe. But they would be more cautious after their predeccessors were bombed from the galaxy.