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Can a Jedi block a blast that is set for Stun?

Discussion in 'Literature' started by Joe_Garelli, Mar 19, 2008.

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  1. Darth_Davi

    Darth_Davi Jedi Padawan star 4

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    I don't think Jedi can block stun blasts...they can however retain consciousness, if they have a split second to prepare themselves for it. Star by Star has a specific passage about Jedi retaining consciousness after being stunned, as part of the plan to go after the Voxyn queen...
     
  2. BobaMatt

    BobaMatt TFN EU Staff star 7 VIP

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    Shatterpoint.
    Those are now canonically deflectable by sabers, I think, which only makes sense if lightning is blockable. In the CW cartoon, doesn't Mace block a continues beam and use it to cut through a swath of droids?
     
  3. Trip

    Trip Force Ghost star 4

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    No, Mace makes no attempt to block the stun blast he's hit with.
     
  4. dp4m

    dp4m Mr. Bandwagon star 10

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    The WOTC RPG specifically enumerates it, but I think it stemmed as far back as WEG *somewhere*.

    And before someone says, NO not in a game mechanic. In a "this is what lightsabers can't deflect" sidebar.

    And continuous beam weapons are not now canonically deflectable to my knowledge. force Lightning is not a beam weapon.
     
  5. BobaMatt

    BobaMatt TFN EU Staff star 7 VIP

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    IIRC, he makes an attempt to block the initial shots fired before he realizes they're stun blasts. In fact, it's the fact that he can't block the shot that first cues him in to the fact that their blasters aren't on a normal setting. After that, he tries to avoid the shots through other means, and when he gets stunned, he realizes the blasters were, well, set to stun.

    From Chapter 2:
    Mace reflexively slapped the bolts back at the shooters -- but instead of rebounding from his blade, the bolts splattered through it and grazed his ribs and burst against a trash bin behind him so that it boomed and bucked and shivered like a cracked bell.

    Mace thought,
    I might be in trouble after all.

    Before the thought could fully form in his mind, the two shooters (a distant, calculating part of Mace's brain filed that they were both human) had flipped their weapons to autoburst. A blinding spray of bolts filled the alleyway.

    Mace threw himself sideways, flipping in the air; a bolt clipped his shin, hammering his leg backward, turning his flip into a tumble, but he still managed to land in a crouch behind the cover of the alleyway's inner corner. He glanced at his leg: the bolt hadn't penetrated his boot leather.

    Stun setting, he thought. Professionals who want me alive.


     
  6. Trip

    Trip Force Ghost star 4

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    DP - I'll take your word for it. I'd still like to know when the misinterpretation of stun blasts as conical rings or whatever came from, though; I've been blaming KJA all this time. :p

    Matt - his 'saber didn't work because it was nearly out of power; the blade was 'permeable.'
     
  7. BobaMatt

    BobaMatt TFN EU Staff star 7 VIP

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    ...what?
     
  8. r2d2istheman

    r2d2istheman Jedi Youngling star 1

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    Tahiri and Leia deflect them in Inferno. So I'd say they definetely can.
     
  9. Darth_Carl99

    Darth_Carl99 Jedi Youngling star 2

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    He''s right, Maces sabre was out of power at that point.
     
  10. rumsmuggler

    rumsmuggler Chosen One star 7

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    They drained his saber of power.
     
  11. Joe_Garelli

    Joe_Garelli Jedi Master star 1

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    Those replies answer a lot of my questions thank you, maybe a double bladed lightsaber held sideways or two lightsabers one in each hand could block the majority of the blast enough for only a minor hit or maybe all of the blast.

    Heres another question, if a jedi were to be attacker by someone using a Star Trek (yes that star trek) Phaser or Disruptor would they simplybe able to easily deflect/reflect the beam right back at the source that it was fired from in one continuing beam? Because a phaser fires a single long shot at most targets and a jedi could probably easily block it and send it back at its source or close enough, whereas with a bolt they can block or deflect it and it either goes back at the source again by chance or it goes in another totally different direction, i always wanted to see a jedi get attacked with a phaser and then just send it right back at the attacker, phasers would be useless against a well trained jedi knight like Obi-Wan Kenobi the deflection specialist who is trained in Form III and can block and deflect almost any attacks easily because their form is focused on laser deflection, phaser deflection would probably be easy for them too.
     
  12. dp4m

    dp4m Mr. Bandwagon star 10

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    Again, canonically continuous beam weapons haven't been able to be deflected (and I don't think that's changed yet) to my knowledge.
     
  13. Joe_Garelli

    Joe_Garelli Jedi Master star 1

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    Okay so how many weapons like that are there in star wars and if so how have the jedi fared against them so far?
     
  14. dp4m

    dp4m Mr. Bandwagon star 10

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    Ssi-Ruuvi weapons and Disruptor pistols/rifles at the least. And poorly.
     
  15. Trip

    Trip Force Ghost star 4

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  16. BobaMatt

    BobaMatt TFN EU Staff star 7 VIP

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    ^ Yeah, I was sure I'd mentioned that earlier. I don't see any reason why they wouldn't be deflectable...my point earlier with Force lightning is that, like a continuous beam, it's a continuous input of intense energy.
     
  17. r2d2istheman

    r2d2istheman Jedi Youngling star 1

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    Did you read my reply? They can definetely block stun blasts, at least from Hapan bodyguards.
     
  18. SteveMollmann

    SteveMollmann Jedi Youngling star 1

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    Aren't big, radiating stun beams used against Luke &co. when they're assaulting Thrawn's facility at the climax of The Last Command? That's where I remember first encountering lightsabers-can't-deflect-stun, but I'll admit it's been a long, long time.
     
  19. dp4m

    dp4m Mr. Bandwagon star 10

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    They hadn't been before? Hence, canonically, no?

    This was my only point.
     
  20. Froggy22651

    Froggy22651 Jedi Youngling star 2

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    Maybe there is more than one kind of stun setting on certain blaster weapons. Maybe there are both stun blasts and stun waves. The blasts would, of course, be possible to deflect with a lightsaber, but would have greater range than the waves. The stun wave setting, on the other hand, would be more certain to knock a target unconcious, rather than the area-specific blasts, and be better at riot control, but suffer from a much decreased range. As a bonus, stun waves can easiy get past the defense of a lightsaber blade.
     
  21. dp4m

    dp4m Mr. Bandwagon star 10

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    Nope, no such luck. Good thought though, but nothing like that exists other than the aforementioned riot weapons.
     
  22. Froggy22651

    Froggy22651 Jedi Youngling star 2

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    So in a galaxy of hyperdrives, anti and artificial gravity, tube accelerated human cloning, advanced artificial intelligence, a culture filled with millions of alien species, and contained plasma weaponry it's not possible that they might have more than one method of stunning someone? o_O
     
  23. dp4m

    dp4m Mr. Bandwagon star 10

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    There's plenty of ways. Just not like what you suggested, which is different settings on blaster weapons.

    There's stun batons, stun grenades, stun settings on Force Pikes, etc.
     
  24. Froggy22651

    Froggy22651 Jedi Youngling star 2

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    So the only way is either getting really close with a melee weapon, or the concentric rings of pain? Oh come on. We have more ways than that in the real world. In the GFFA, they can actually make an energy weapon with a contained plasma projectile that doesn't dissipate after traveling a few feet and doesn't melt your face off the moment you press the trigger. I don't think multiple types of stunning on blaster-type weapons is out of the question. Just because no one has ever written "oh well, you see, there's more than one type of stun setting out there, and this kind of blaster has that" doesn't mean that it's entirely impossible. It just means that someone hasn't had the idea yet or took the time to point it out.
     
  25. dp4m

    dp4m Mr. Bandwagon star 10

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    Considering every description of pretty much every blaster with a stun setting ever made, including technical blueprints, indicate that there is a selector for "Stun" and "Kill" then yes -- there's pretty much only one stun setting on blaster weapons.

    Now, having said that, EACH blaster weapon may have a different type of stun setting (rings, bolts, etc.) which may explain the canon change but it'll only be one setting per blaster.
     
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