Can Jedi be Senators ?

Yeah... sorry 'bout that.

 

You know what I never realized before? Do Jedi even know how to play politics? I mean - Sidious does obviously, but he's an awesome Sith warrior and not some lame-o Jedi...


Thoughts?

 

Palpatine's a different case all together. While he was right in that the Jedi could not just arrest him for being a Sith Lord, since it is not in the Republic constitution, according to the novelization. However, his actions can be called into question regarding any suspected improprities (sp). Meaning that the Jedi would have to prove that he started the Clone Wars. Was in league with the Separatist Council. Master to Dooku. Issued orders to all those who were connected to the Confederacy. Started the Naboo invasion. Created a Clone Army illegally in the name of the Jedi. And had knowledge of or ordered the assassinations of various senators who died before the Clone Wars. As well as the attempts on Senator Amidala's life.

This is the justification for removing Palpatine from office. Arresting him was the first step. Trying and convicting him is the next one.

 

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So can an ex-convict be a senator in the SW galaxy you think?...Like for example...if Dr. Evezian or whatever his name is with Walrus man in ANH wanted to be senator, what kind of procedures would he have to go through I wonder....??

Could a jedi be a senator before they elected an ex-con?

 

Can o' worms.... OPEN!^^^^^^^

 

wow awesome responses guys! Convict senators jedi senators these concepts are so mindboggling! Well for a halfwit like me! haha LOL! Awesome!

 

I'm being serious...my uncle is an ex-con...he was a tri-state fugitive. He assumed a dead guys ID, and ended up winning a seat on the city council. He ended up Mayor before some old bookie that was transferred into WITSEC in the very town he was mayor happened to notice who he was and then ratted him out to the coppers.

I don't think it would be all that different in the SW universe really.

 

Dr. Evanizan and Ponda Baba couldn't be elected, due to the fact that they had a death mark in tweleve systems. They'd be arrested by the Jedi and the Judicial commitee before they could even blink. A Jedi would be elected first. Ex-cons would probably be in the same boat. They'd be less likely to get votes due to their former criminal background.

Hutts are too notorious (sp) for their criminal dealings, so they would have a hard time gaining representation. Post ROTJ eu, there was a Hutt represenitive who worked with the Senate. This was an effort to bring peaceful solutions between the New Republic and the Hutt syndicates. Mostly because the Hutt resources were not what they were during the days of Jabba and the Trade Federation was more or less disbanded by the time of ANH. Trade was nationalized. The same day Nute died, the Federation signed over everything to the Emperor.

Anyway, criminals and ex-cons would have a hard time getting elected, due to their activities. Palpatine was able to get elected because he lead a double life. He had a dual identity that no one suspected. Those who did, were dead before they could speak up.

 

What if the ET guys were all fugitives like ET's family or et himself? Or aybe the wookies in the senate, that seems reasonable no?

 

That's a good point mr. halfwits r us...How were the wookies able to be senators? I thought they were slaves? Or were they slaves later...?? And the ET guys were in TPM, but what world did they represent in SW?

And since the ET dudes were in SW as senators, can we view ET as actual Star Wars cannon? If so that would be AWESOME!!!!

 

This is a half-way serious question, let's make sure we keep to the topic in a somewhat reasonable way. I.E. - don't derail.

 

Prior to the Clone Wars, the Wookiee senators from Kashyyyk were able to take part since they registered as members of the Republic and proved their loyality. But once Lord Vader brought the 501st and other Stormtroopers to Kashyyyk, many Wookiees were enslaved so that they could work on the Death Star project. I believe even the Wookiee senators were enslaved as well. Chewbacca managed to avoid being enslaved initially, as he escaped with the surviving Jedi who came there to look for the three Jedi Masters who were on Kashyyyk at the time of Order 66. Master Luminara Undili was killed outright. Quinlan Vos was injured and disappeared into the lower levels of the mainland. He later got offworld. Yoda, well, we know where he went. Anyway, after the Battle of Endor and the truce at Bakura, the Alliance went to Kashyyyk to free the Wookiees held there. A new Wookiee senator was elected to serve on the Advisory Council and later in the Senate itself. But for the 23 years between the end of the Clone Wars and the death of the Emperor, the Wookiees were enslaved.

As to the ET race, that's debatable. I think at the moment we just classify them as a cameo/easter egg and not a full fledged canon species. Since the whole thing was in response to the Yoda Halloween costume in ET.

 

Sinister...Let me be the first to admit...That WAS AWESOME!!!!


I bet nobody saw that one coming...

 

I think cons can serve as Senators pending on their crime. If its something like tax evasion, they can run, if it's something like murder, they cant.

Sinister- How do you figure the Wookiee Senators were enslaved? Just because the rest of the Wookiees on Kashyyyk were doesnt mean Palpatine picked the Senators to work. For starters, there would be way too much public outcry and it wouldnt solve much. Kashyyyk would just get another Senator. That'd be like Mel Martinez being sent back to Cuba. And it's not like he's so desperate for slaves that he starts nabbing Senators.

That'd be like Bush getting so eager to kill people in his illegal war that he takes Senator Mel Martinez (or any Senator for that matter, just as long as we are talking about Mel) and ships him off to kill baby seals to use their young innocent blood to fuel his Panzer tanks as he continues his evil campaign to free innocents from ruthless dictators and defeat enemies with plans to destroy America or her allies.

 

what does i.e. mean?

 

In effect.

 

oh no Rhonda where did you go to school? it actually is abbreviated latin for "it est" or that is !

 

I thought I.E. meant "Injun Eve"...a holiday that is no longer celebrated thanks to that dirty ol' General Custer?

 

Maybe that's similar to the wookie's life day celebration? Do you think that lead to their fugitive status? Did any other senator practice life day? If so if they were jedi could celebrating life day make them ineligible to become a senator due to the fact that it is a wookiee celebration therefore adding to the illegal status of it's practice mainly because of the illegal status of wookiees? Wait are wookiee's like illegal aliens or just slaves? Are their any jedi wookiee senators?

 

That brings up a really interesting point halfwits...are there any Wookie Jedi's who just don't care about being senator? Are there any senators who wish they were jedi? OH WAIT!!! How about any Jedi's who wanted to be wookies but settled on being senators that ENSLAVED E.T.???

That's AWESOME!!!!

 

During the years leading up to the Great Sith War (c. 4,000 BBY) Jedi Master Sidrona Diath was elected Supreme Chancellor of the Republic, and still managed to serve in the war as a Jedi. He was later killed at the Battle of Basilisk (3,997 BBY), and a non-Jedi, Netus, was elected Chancellor in his place.

Then, during the Republic Dark Age (c. 1,466-1,000 BBY), many Jedi served as Supreme Chancellor over a span of several centuries, with the Republic itself nearly ceasing to exist after the Sith conquered virtually the entire galaxy. Both the government and the Republic Army and Navy were placed almost entirely under the Jedi Order's exclusive command, and it represents the most militaristic the Jedi have perhaps ever been, before or since. Once the Sith were all but destroyed at the Battle of Ruusan (with Darth Bane the sole survivor), the Republic was totally re-founded politically; the Jedi Order renouncing ties to Republic politico-military complex, multiple apprentices, and personal relationships.

Although they DO start to whore themselves out to the Chancellor's office and the Judicial Department under this new state of affairs far more than they ever did, pre-Dark Age. After this, it was largely the situation we see in the prequels.

 

No.

 

Which episode was that in? That sounds AWESOME!!!! Is that like in TPM or something...I fell asleep during parts of it so I might've missed some of it....

 

Yeah, could you imagine some policemen nowadays. "In the name of the Washington D.C. Police Department, you President George Bush, are under arrest for being a Republican. Also, my coffee club and I think that maybe you have something to do with the recent war."

"Are you threatening me Officer Dimwit? I AM the President."

"NOT YET."

"It's treason then."

Secret service members swarm in an kill the officers.

The News reports 4 lunatic Police officers attacked the president of the United States.

Carnage

Carnage