ST Carrie Fisher (Leia Organa) in the ST

I can't decide what I think it's best. A grand funeral at beginning of Ep. IX or Leia surviving the trilogy, albeit with a smaller role.

Although I believe Carrie would like the idea of Leia continuing even after her death (because, Leia is Carrie and Carrie is Leia, so, as long as one of the two is alive, the other will also be alive, in a sense), I also think the character deserves a dignified send off, honoring both Carrie Fisher and Leia Organa.

Whatever Billie and Todd agree with.

 

They don't have to Rogue One CGI her... She just shot VIII, I'm sure there's a ton of footage, even from VII. They CGIed her hair and the back of her head and no one noticed, I'm sure there could be reaction shots of her somewhere safe and sound to fit into the narrative that would end things on a positive note.

 

Absolutely, the wishes of Carrie's family need to be respected in whatever they decide to do with the Leia character. That's the most important thing.

 

I don't know what I think about seeing a "Carrie" on screen who isn't really Carrie. It's a complicated situation, probably they will talk to Carrie's family about it (if they feel comfortable with a Carrie's CGI)

 

It would be interesting if they hold back some scenes and perhaps use some cut scenes in order for her to appear in VIII. Possibly even use her voice too, that would also be a good way forward too. Like posters have said before I think we should adhere to the wishes of Carrie's family, they are the most important people now, not us or Lucasfilm.

 

I would just think her family would rather have a movie they go to that was part of her legacy and see her in her badass glory with a reaction shot from previous shot footage smiling and living on forever, than say dying in an explosion or some horrible tribute funeral that takes them out of the movie. I think most of a movie going public would be forgiving of any imperfection of how they make Leia appear in VIX. Heck, even her ending scene from FA works, CGI new hair on her and change the background.

 

This was good to cheer me up a bit in this sad time.

 

Me too!

Edit: Sorry about the DP. I am sure the Mods wont mind this one time though.

 

It's really up to what Billie and Todd want. And they'll probably want what Carrie would have wanted, which is to be in IX in some way. Remember, before George even finished telling her and Mark that he was selling to Disney so they could do the sequel trilogy, she shouted "I'M IN!"

 

Well right now the ones who are going to decide are her brother Todd who seems pretty up for it and her daughter Billie.

If they put her on comma on E8, I don't want an irrelevant goodbye for her in E9, they have two paths:

-Her funeral at the beginning of E9

-CGI her role
a) Smaller role at E9 like in TFA
b) Protagonist role at E9

I think that they should keep with what they/Colin had in mind, killing her character because Carrie died is the easy path, but if Leia lives after E9 it would be beautiful to see her legacy extended, maybe after E9 she might not be a protagonist in another book/comic but we will know that she's out there.

It would be sad too to se Han and Leia dead with Luke alone, in two years they can improve CGI and make a good job for her, they can also get another woman resembling her and do what they did with Paul Walker in F&F.

 

This is a nice 4-part panel video featuring Carrie. She mentions Stevie Nicks at the 59 second mark in part 2 of 4.

 

Happy Birthday night angel!

 

OK. I agree with everybody who is saying TPTB should do whatever Carrie's family decides. If Billie and Todd are OK with the idea of using CGI (or some other movie magic) to continue Leia's story in Episode 9, I am fine with that. Personally, that's what I would prefer.

To be clear – I do NOT want to see Leia die onscreen (unless maybe it's a peaceful Yoda-style death), nor do I want to see a whole bunch of scenes where a CGI Leia is a major player in the story. I just want one or two scenes, MAYBE three or four tops, that can bring Leia's story to a proper resolution. That doesn't have to involve an onscreen death, it just means some closure for everything that Leia was going through. If they can figure out a way to have Leia survive the sequel trilogy so much the better.

It's difficult to talk about Leia's story because we're operating in a vacuum. Some people believe the coma rumors, others are skeptical. Is Leia Rey's mother? I believe she is, but we don't know for sure. Are they planning to redeem Kylo? These and other questions will have a huge impact on what Leia's story was supposed to be in Episode 9. But one thing's for certain – Carrie was taken from us when the story was only two-thirds done.

I don't want to say that Leia is bigger or more important than Carrie, because I don't believe a fictional character can ever be more important than a flesh and blood person. But Leia exists beyond Carrie Fisher, and she always has. Certainly Carrie is more responsible than anyone for Leia's distinctive personality. She embodied Leia for 39 years and nobody can ever take that away.

But Leia began her life in the head of George Lucas, and since then so many other people have contributed to making her the iconic character she is – including Willard Huyck and Gloria Katz, Lawrence Kasdan, Irvin Kershner, Richard Marquand, and many others. The costume designers and all the other artists who worked so hard on the OT films. And all people who helped bring Leia to life outside of the films – the authors of the old EU, the new EU, all the comic books, and so on. All these people contributed to the incredible legacy that is Princess/General Leia Organa.

If Leia's story ends abruptly, without resolution, I think that does an injustice to the many years of love and hard work that all those people put in. More importantly, I think it does an injustice to to the work that Carrie put into this character. Carrie loved Leia. It's impossible to know what Carrie would have wanted, but I have to believe she would have preferred Leia's story to get some proper closure.

Again, we're speculating in a vacuum. But I don't see how Leia's story can find resolution if she disappears completely from the third act of a three-part story. If Leia dies offscreen between films, the biggest movie funeral in the world can't compensate for the damage. Again, I don't want to see more than a very small handful of scenes with Leia in Episode 9. With the proper writing and direction, even just one scene would do. As I understand it, most fans had a very positive reaction to the CGI Paul Walker in the F&F movie. Something like that, something to bring Leia's story to a proper close and give everybody a chance to say goodbye.

So that's my feeling on the subject. I hope I didn't offend anyone. I'll just close by saying that Leia is immortal, regardless of anything that happens. Every time somebody watches the original trilogy, or TFA, or reads Bloodline, or any other of the many books where Leia is a character, she comes back to life again. And so, in a way, does Carrie.

Happy 2017 to every one, and a belated Happy Birthday to nightangel.

 

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Interesting...So Leia would've been in IX. So, we kind of know what her fate would've probably been in XIII. Don't know if they'll change the movie now...

 

Holy @#$% she was (is) hilarious!!! Gives me a smile listening to her! When was that interview?

Happy b-day Nightangel! And happy New Years to all! Been a rough two weeks for Sw fans! May fond memories of Carrie keep us and her family going in '17 !!!

 

Thank you.

 

I think that saying a character can't die is going against the philosophy of Star Wars, from the beginning it has shown even the most powerful characters can die. Yoda tells us that death is a part of life, he tells us that we can't avoid it and in that is the essence of where I believe the makers will go by the end. I'm not saying this because I want to kill off a beloved character, one I envisioned would play a bigger part in TFA than she eventually did. So please don't hold it against me in believing the best way forward might be to let go...

 

Thoughts, jedijax

 

I disagree about a character dying is against the philosophy of Star Wars. For many years when it survived a cinematic legacy before the prequels, none of the historic characters died. The ones that did where already woven into the script, it was expected, or experienced on the first viewing. Ben Kenobi died on first viewing, his legacy was always linked to death. Darth Vader was cinema's villain, who could only be redeemed through death. Han Solo ( and some could argue if that is somewhat tarnished) is an arch type that would sacrifice life in the story. Princess Leia has become arguably the most cinematic female in history (next to Scarlet O'Hara and Dorothy from Wizard of Oz)... I think that should live on in our imagination instead of giving it a defined ending.

 

I don't understand this allergy people have to death (including the death of characters). There is nothing disrespectful about having Leia, at some point either in 8, 9, or off-screen, pass away. As with Han, I hope it is a good and noble death. The alternative, which is to create a CGI version of Leia for IX, simply strikes me as a poor option.

 

I'm buzzed as hell right now. Company left a little while ago and we're getting the litlte one ready for bed. Looking at reveiws of 2016 and it SUCKS to HELL that we lost Carrie, Debbie, George, zBowie and Prince among others. So sad about it all right now and taking forever to type this because I am having to correct all my mistakes. I just can't believe Carrie and all those others are gone. Such defining artists of various generations....

 

This is where it's dicey for me. Star Wars existed long enough to become a classic in its initial entirety. Like Casablanca, Gone With the Wind, The Wizard of Oz... All exhibiting classic iconic characters that defined its characters complete arcs. So it's like going back and altering something that is already a classic. i.e. Ben Kneobi and Darth Vader die in defining what eventually becomes the classic, Leia and Luke do not... They live on and have for decades. So because we have a suddenly new and fresh incarnation, is it ultimately in the long run to basically leave it alone. Logically we know Scarlet and Dorothy will die, but do we really need to see it? No, they live on for many generations, they don't need a defined cap.

And from little that I know or followed from the Expanded Universe, Lucas understood this principle by allowing the writers to do anything they want, but the Big Three of Han, Luke and Leia must always stay intact.