Chewbacca and Yoda

So what GL's point in having Chewie meet Yoda? It's like a retcon that makes things worse.

 

To make up for the mistake of not having the Wookiees in ROTJ?

(Of course, Tarfang comes along, and now I realize that the Ewoks have at least one redeemable soul.)

 

Including Wookiees does not necessitate including Chewbacca. He didn't do anything. He just stood around a little bit. It was, like, a "cute" cameo that did nothing for the movie or the character.

Ugh.

But it at least explains why Chewie is so impressed by Luke being a Jedi Knight in ROTJ.

 

As far as I'm concerned Chewie's cameo explained nothing. Lucas obviously didn't intend for us to think anything about Chewie's presense other than:

Wow! Wookiees!
and:
Yoda and Chewie are so adorable together!

Any "explination" that Chewbacca's presence gives to the OT is a mere coincadence, IMO

 

there was no reason for chewbacca to tell luke he knew yoda, because, he didn't even know he was going to see Yoda.

 

So you're telling me Luke never mentioned it.

Han: Where've you been? You smell like swamp gas.
Luke: I was...busy.
Han: Well your Jedi stuff has gotten a lot better since we last met. Been studying?
Luke:...yes.
Han: Well where'd you learn all that stuff?
Luke:...somewhere...
Han: Where?
Luke: Not here...
Han: I know not here. Who taught you?
Luke: Someone.

(Pause.)

Han: You're a dick.

 

Granted the easiest reasoning behind Chewie being in ROTS is as a cameo. Having two (Chewie and Yoda) of the most well known and beloved Star Wars characters in the same scene and interacting type of reasoning.

In-universe we don't really know how close the two of them where. Being near Yoda I'm going to assume that Chewie had a high place in the Wookie military structure. Yoda says he has good relations with the Wookies right? Who is to say he hadn't been there before the final battle and Order 66? Who is to say it can't be writen he was there or worked with Wookies, perhaps Chewie before the whole Clone War started? The opining is there for some interesting and good Yoda and Wookie stories I feel, even pairing him and Chewie on an adventure or two.

As for Luke knowing. Clearly it's a new development but it can easily be retconed into the EU. We need some more Luke and Chewie interaction anyway.

The thing I've wondered about is the connection with Obiwan. In ANH when he tells Luke and that Chewie(using his full name) has a ship that might suit them, can this be seen as him having some past relationship with Chewie and other Wookies? It's never really stated or shown in ANH that he had just meet Chewie and he seemed to trust that he had a good ship for them.

 

Han never saw Luke between Hoth and his rescue on Tatooine... It probably never came up in conversation. I would assume Chewie was sworn to secrecy, or with the billion upon billions of people in the galaxy, odds are there are more than one "Yoda"s somewhere, even if it was mentioned. Besides, there are things that go on "off-screen"... the simple answer is, maybe Chewie said something to Luke in the year(s) between ESB and RotJ

 

thats exactly what he said, don't you remember in Marvel 108.

 

The thing I've wondered about is the connection with Obiwan. In ANH when he tells Luke and that Chewie(using his full name) has a ship that might suit them, can this be seen as him having some past relationship with Chewie and other Wookies? It's never really stated or shown in ANH that he had just meet Chewie and he seemed to trust that he had a good ship for them.

Believe it or not, Obi-Wan HAS met Chewbacca.

Qui-Gon and Obi-Wan helped Chewbacca and his father colonise Alaris Prime prior to the Battle of Naboo.

 

If you're unable to see Chewie's cameo for what is was - highly cynical - then you just need to assume Ben told Chewie to not mention the war. Ben did once, but got away with it.

E_S

 

In the Hutt Gambit (Vol.2 of Han Solo Trilogy), Chewie visits Kashyyk with Han...FOR THE FIRST TIME IN 50 YEARS! Or so Chewie says to Han. So Chewie, according to the above, couldn't have been in Kashyyk during Ep. 3. Well, what do you know, he IS in Kashyyk in Ep. 3. I know, you can't expect Lucas to keep up with everything that's going in the EU but this contradiction still bugs me quite a lot. Quite frankly, Chewie was added to Ep. 3 only to make the film more marketable and make some chewbacca-fans shout "Oh my god, it's Chewie! Hurray!" Don't get me wrong, I love Chewie. I just think it was a stupid idea by Lucas to take something lovable from the original trilogy and try to include it to the inferior prequels. It's bad enough that he computer-generated Yoda completely.

 

Actually that 50 years thing, fits in nicely with how long ago the CW should have been based upon comments in I, Jedi. Though why "I, Jedi" assumed that Corran's father's father would be a CW-era Jedi, when it was clearly stated that Luke's dad was a CW-era Jedi, and then established that Corran and Luke were about the same age is beyond me....someone didn't do their homework for that book...

 

To be fair, Anakin was assumed to be closer to Ben's age based on Ben's comments in ANH and Sebastian Shaw's appearance/age in ROTJ.

E_S

 

Wait, who's Yoda again?

 

I believe this is explained in Dark Lord the Rise of Lord Varder..

But I think that they should like re write the novelizations of ANH, ESB, and ROTJ to include tie In's with the TPM, AOTC, and ROTS

 

I was thinking about this last night as I was reading ROTS. The OT novels are really poor in comparison to the PT novels and I would love for them to be rewritten to incorporate more PT and EU references.

 

Oh my gosh DurronFan that thing is bugging me since i saw ep3 cause the first books i read in the EU were part of the han solo trilogy so it hit me right away. It`s really stupid because in the han solo books A.C.Crispin states that Chewie hadn`t seen Malla since his last trip to Kashyyk 50 years ago, not to mention that the han solo trilogy takes place before ep4 so...
And Quentin you`re right the colonization by the wookies of alaris prime is the training campaign in star wars galactic battlegrounds featuring Attichituck, Chewie, Qui-gonn and young obi-wan fighting against the trade federation.
Chewie`s appearance in ep 3 should have never taken place.

 

Right that's what I was thinking. I was looking at the PT novels compared to the OT ones and the OT ones look to be about the size of a childrens book compared to the PT ones. They should be re-written by some one like Strover or Luceno, and they should go more indepth and include tie in's with the PT movies and even EU....... just a thought.

 

I'd love to see the OT novels rewriten to better tie in with the PT, hell to better tie in with the new version of the OT movies. Sure EU references would be nice but only if they fit and flow. I wouldn't want to see EU references just for the sake of having them. For example there is no need to have anything on Mara at all. A cameo by Thrawn possibly since he would be high in the Imperial ranking structure, same for his second in command. Would love to see more political workings of the Rebel Alliance though during the OT. More talk between Luke and Chewie about Jedi. And most importantly more talk about the Skywalker name in general by leaders of the Rebel Alliance since they would know of Anakin Skywalker and all he did during the Clone Wars and would wonder if Luke Skywalker would be capable of the same if not more.

 

C'mon Guys You dont remember in the End of RotJ when Luke sees the 3 ghosts and Chewie was in the background he chokes on his Daqari and is like "Oh **** I know that little Blue Dude! But I thought He was Green!"

But Yeah its hard for me to even imagine Yoda takin a liking to a wookie who loves battle and tearin peoples arms out, when He cant stand anyone else with a sense for adventure.

 

Who said Yoda can't stand that? I just remember him saying that is the type of think that a Jedi shouldn't or doesn't seek or crave. I can see Yoda taking a liking to anyone. Also who says that Wookies love battle? I never got that feeling. Klingons in Star Trek love battle. Just that Wookies can tear a person's arm off, doesn't mean they enjoy doing it or go around looking for people to do that to.

 

What's stupid is that you let it bother you so much, it's an incredibly minor plot point. Besides, if Lucas says Chewie was on Kashyyk during ROTS, he was there.

 

Actually, I seem to be the only one who thinks it makes snese Chewie was there.

The AC Crispin, "50 years" can be chalked up to the same error as in TTT, I, Jedi and so forth. They're all right together, because we didn't have the prequals then. Do the math adjustments jus tthe same as the rest and your fine.

Also, I think Chewie knowing Yoda (and Jedi in general since Yoda wasn't the only Jedi on Kashyyyk in Ep3) is what drove Chewie to sort of defend Luke to Han in RotJ:

SCENE: Jabba's Palace Dungeon
Chewie: roar, moan, roar (okay, poor Chewie)
Han: Luke? (goes on about how Luke isn't up to a rescue)
Chewie: roar x2
Han: A Jedi Knight!?

To me, that scene shows Chewie really defended Luke and his ranking as a Jedi Knight, as if "Jedi" held a special meaning for him.

Also, Chewie wouldn't mention Yoda to Luke (at that time) to Luke cause:

1.) It's easy to assume most of the Jedi were killed. Probably assumed Yoda fell victum like the others since Yoda dissapeared.

2.) Luke wasn't revealing anything about where he was going or with who until after RotJ. Yes, he mumbled Yoda's name to Han in ESB, but Han I'm sure chalked that up to delirium.

Another moment that can reinforce Chewie's respect for Jedi is in ANH. Notice Chewie takes kindly to Obi-Wan, especially when it comes to the "fool" comment, whining out what almost sounds like a mutual agreement with the comment. Just seems Chewie feels at ohme with Jedi to me.

And, on the very Infinities chance Chewie DID know Yoda was still alive, I'd still assume Chewie would stay quite with respect to whatever plans Yoda might have cooking.

 

"You said it chewie: where did you dig up that old fossil?"