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Lit A/V Clone Wars Continuity Discussion (Spoilers Allowed)

Discussion in 'Literature' started by sabarte, May 12, 2008.

  1. blackmyron

    blackmyron Chosen One star 7

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    Wait, does that mean that the CWAS might simply be a Villie bar-tale? [face_laugh]
     
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  2. QuentinGeorge

    QuentinGeorge Jedi Grand Master star 5

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    Rogue, you also forgot:

    - Needless moving of Rodia to the Outer Rim

    - Greedo is now twenty years older than he was before and from Tatooine, not Rodia.


     
  3. PirateofRohan

    PirateofRohan Jedi Master star 3

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    If you ignore the episode guide one of those problems is fixed.[face_mischief]
     
  4. Manisphere

    Manisphere Jedi Master star 5

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    So it's a Jedi Azkaban? You'd think a Jedi prison might be a tad more serene but this was pretty medieval. This episode made no sense but was actually fun despite that fact. TCW is more and more like those nutty Marvel comics.
     
  5. Plaristes

    Plaristes Jedi Master star 4

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    Source (post at 5:59 pm 2/19/11). Another poster pointed out that moving the comic later requires a further retcon, since the Resolute appears in the comic, but was destroyed in "Nightsisters."
     
  6. Darth_Gamek

    Darth_Gamek Jedi Master star 6

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    It should be the other way around.
     
  7. jedimasterED

    jedimasterED Moderator Emeritus star 4 VIP - Former Mod/RSA

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    I've decided that simply ignoring two lines from the episode (Rex: "I've never been carbon frozen before, General." Anakin: "It's the first time for us, too.") is much easier than trying to move Shipyards around. Everything else in the episode actually works if they just don't say those two lines. And, what is more frustrating, those two lines are essentially unnecessary and really only seem to serve the purpose of escalating the pre-mission tension. That could've been done with something like Rex: "You sure about this carbon freezing, General?" Anakin: "I don't like it any more than you do, Rex, but it's worth a shot." I honestly don't see the purpose of establishing that the Citadel mission was the first time the carbonite infiltration gambit was used.

    And moving the comic is hindered by direct references to its placement in the timeline (both the narrator and Darth Sidious note that it is early in the war), Ahsoka's outfit and relationship with Anakin (and isn't she the true barometer of timeline placement per Filoni?), and the Resolute's presence.

    It's amazing the damage that can be done with just two throw-away lines.
     
  8. PirateofRohan

    PirateofRohan Jedi Master star 3

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    That's exactly what I thought too.:D
     
  9. Sjaddix

    Sjaddix Jedi Knight star 1

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    Honestly external security was pretty good still I expect far more a Jedi Super Max Prison.
     
  10. ThisIsMadness91

    ThisIsMadness91 Jedi Knight star 2

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    I think George Lucas borrowed your computer, Gamek:p.

    Does anyone else think the commando droids have been somewhat nerfed since their first appearance?
     
  11. GGrievous

    GGrievous Jedi Grand Master star 5

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    Yeah, besides oddly learning how to be more aerobatic, they seemed less than a threat.
     
  12. PirateofRohan

    PirateofRohan Jedi Master star 3

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    Maybe a little. That one took too long to shoot Ahsoka after it had her pinned down. But in "Rookies" Rex and the gang took them out pretty quick. But before that the troopers stationed there got ania- anihia- destroyed. And then there's the fact they had Jedi with them this time.[face_thinking]
     
  13. CT-867-5309

    CT-867-5309 Chosen One star 7

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    Nerfed? That means depowered, right?

    Considering they've failed every mission except "Hostage Crisis", no.

    At least they got their licks in this time.
     
  14. MercenaryAce

    MercenaryAce Chosen One star 6

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    Probably because their opponents are more dangerous. they were fighting Rookies in their first appearance.
     
  15. GGrievous

    GGrievous Jedi Grand Master star 5

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    I'm glad a commando droid stopped Ahsoka early, but other than that they just seemed weaker if you compare them to their appearances in Rookies, Liberty on Ryloth, or the Deserter.
     
  16. Sinrebirth

    Sinrebirth Mod-Emperor of the EUC, Lit, RPF and SWC star 10 Staff Member Manager

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    I reckon these can almost always be explained away... so I may as well go through them all... ;)

    The entire timeline setting, which potentially invalidates the explicit timeline placements of countless existing stories. Example: the Jabiim comic arc.

    Well, the Battle of Jabiim can start pre-Geonosis, and carry on with the clones under Alpha (thus separating him from Anakin and Obi-Wan while Fordo is 'their clone'), and the fortnight Anakin and Obi-Wan are there still takes place, accordingly. Jabiim is referenced in the TCW movie novel, so it seems to take place pre-TCW.

    Senator Farr's characterization as a good senator and Padme's close friend.

    Even good Senator's can have bad patches. To be fair a redeemed Senator is much more interesting than one which is either entirely good or entirely bad.

    Anakin's facial scar appearing way too early in the war.

    Two scars, we could argue, or Asajj purposely makes worse the first scar.

    The Trade Federation (and Cato Neimoidia) still being "loyal" to the Republic.

    Or, the Trade Federation, Banking Clan, Corporate Alliance, Commerce Guild and Techno Union secede, and the Republic does not have a complete economic collapse. The corporations pretending to straddle both sides fits well with old continuity, what with the Banking Clan suspected as being a Separatist ally at various points, and we have reference to a treaty in the Malevolence arc. Quite novel, and amusing.

    Grievous's backstory is now that he "always wanted to be a Jedi when he grew up, but got angry because he wasn't Force sensitive and had himself cyborged". This could sort of fit with the existing backstory, but nobody's made the effort yet.

    Post-injury brainwashing or just another facet of his persona.

    Dooku getting captured by random Weequay pirates because he's not powerful enough to fight them off. Though that's more of a stupid plot issue than a continuity issue.

    Just assume the pirates were agitating him as well, and he did it all on purposes. Why should he take out a pirate gang, and risk angering them all? He needs some of them.

    Iego being well known and easy to get to. Also, the Angels are somewhat different than other depictions of them.

    Different Angels, and Iego was mildly deep in Separatist territory, I recall. And different Angels, I guess.

    Ryloth is not tidally locked. This is probably one of the most annoying and pointless ones, considering the years and years of EU material it needlessly affects.

    Well, it might not be all of the year, we could retcon. The Ryloth system could be a very complicated one, gravitationally.

    Barriss Offee still being Luminara's padawan at a point where she should not be (?)

    She was only explicitly not Luminara's Padawan in the MedStar duology, which has zero references to Anakin and Obi-Wan so can stay where it was in the old timeline.

    Eeth Koth being alive.

    Sora Bulq seemingly survived the same crash, I recall.

    Mandalore (the planet) and Mandalorian culture is completely different from what has been shown before.

    This has been heavily gone over, and retconned. Now, the Battle of Galidraan makes sense, to be honest. How can two dozen Jedi win a battle which crippled the Mandalorians for sixty years? It simply did not make sense, back in the day, and now it makes considerably more sense, if the armoured Mandalorians are the only ones which were crippled. That, and now the Mandalorian Civil War has a period of the Death Watch actually doing something between winning the war at Galidraan and Jango decapitating the group on Corellia.

    Aurra Sing isn't portrayed as Force sensitive (though this isn't exactly an error, per se, since they haven't said that sh
     
  17. PirateofRohan

    PirateofRohan Jedi Master star 3

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    In "the Deserter" it was two clones against a bunch of the commando droids. In "the Citadel" it's two Jedi, Ahsoka, and at least four clone troopers, two of which are ARC troopers.
     
  18. TalonCard

    TalonCard •Author: Slave Pits of Lorrd •TFN EU Staff star 5 VIP

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  19. PirateofRohan

    PirateofRohan Jedi Master star 3

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    According to this the Savage Oppress arc will be continued in the last episode of Season 3. Or something.
     
  20. Daft-Vader

    Daft-Vader Chosen One star 8

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    Cast:... Darth Maul...

    :_|

    It will be a great disaster...
     
  21. Rogue_Follower

    Rogue_Follower Manager Emeritus star 6 VIP - Former Mod/RSA

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    So ...Darth Maul's return is all an elaborate April Fools joke? Lucas is trolling us. :p

    (I'm dubious about that IMDB article's legitimacy, considering that we already know that 3.22 is called "Wookiee Hunt", the episode featuring Chewbacca...)
     
  22. Zorrixor

    Zorrixor Chosen One star 6

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    We're not seeing Savage/Maul again this season? Aww... I was kinda looking forward to that. There's going to be Chewie though? Interesting... I wonder if that means they're resurrecting Lucas's old ROTS notes from when he originally was going to have Han appear as a boy?

    Either way, I'm still hoping Savage eventually gets possessed by Maul's spirit, that Anakin chops his legs off, he then gets cybernetics implants, and finally years later attacks Obi-Wan on Tatooine. What can I say? I've always wanted that Visionaries comic to be canon. :p
     
  23. Plaristes

    Plaristes Jedi Master star 4

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    Why not? It was already referenced in Abel Pena's article "Lord of War." [face_thinking]
     
  24. Barriss_Coffee

    Barriss_Coffee Chosen One star 6

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    This is an elaborate ploy to get Darth Maul and Chewbacca in the same episode.

    Somebody's been reading Hidalgo's Head to Head.
     
  25. Zorrixor

    Zorrixor Chosen One star 6

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    Hmm... both? Ooooh. I know. This is where Han first learns to shoot Sith in the back, while Chewie gets to pull the [legs] off a [Zabrak].

    Voila. Robo-Maul for Visionaries, courtesy of baby Han and big Chewie. :p