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Lit A/V Clone Wars Continuity Discussion (Spoilers Allowed)

Discussion in 'Literature' started by sabarte, May 12, 2008.

  1. CooperTFN

    CooperTFN TFN EU Staff Emeritus star 7 VIP

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    I know you mentioned that line, and I was asking about a different one earlier, where I remembered Anakin asking what they were, which does suggest unfamiliarity, but just political incorrectness. As for the number of troublesome lines:

    Anakin after seeing one on the holo: "What was that?" (not too bad because it's fast and hard to make out, but nevertheless)

    Anakin: "How to you plan on communicating with these things?"

    Obi-Wan: "Maybe they're smarter than we are."

    Obi-Wan: "These creatures, the Talz, aren't advanced enough to master space travel." (knows their name, granted, but doesn't think they could've come from another planet)

    Chuchi: "...their status is in doubt." (isn't certain they're sentient)

    And that's dismissing a bunch of Cho's lines as sheer xenophobia. The first line is the one I was thinking of - which I guess I'd conflated with "these things" from the next one. As you say, it's all workable, so there's no reason to keep arguing. Just wanted to clarify.
     
  2. The2ndQuest

    The2ndQuest Tri-Mod With a Mouth star 10 Staff Member Manager

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    I'm thinking there's a link between 3PO's ability to communicate with the Talz as a possible indication of Fouls' presence in the Jedi ranks, regardless of how he was discovered.

    Though, I'm dissapointed they didn't talk with the same springy kazoo language that Muftak and Foul use.
     
  3. CooperTFN

    CooperTFN TFN EU Staff Emeritus star 7 VIP

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    New continuity problem: Anakin draws really fast. Force Sketch?
     
  4. The2ndQuest

    The2ndQuest Tri-Mod With a Mouth star 10 Staff Member Manager

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  5. Rogue_Follower

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    I though it was said the Pantorans were from a moon in the same system as Orto Plutonia, not a moon of Orto Plutonia itself.
     
  6. CooperTFN

    CooperTFN TFN EU Staff Emeritus star 7 VIP

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    Also, the Databank calls it the Pantora system, so you'd need to use "Alzoc" as an alternate name for both.
     
  7. TalonCard

    TalonCard •Author: Slave Pits of Lorrd •TFN EU Staff star 5 VIP

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    I hate to break up the "maybe Anakin and Obi-Wan didn't meet Foul" party, but while Anakin may not have encountered Talz before, Obi-Wan certainly has... ;)

    TC
     
  8. CooperTFN

    CooperTFN TFN EU Staff Emeritus star 7 VIP

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    Meh. One time, a decade earlier. You can't keep track of every species you come across.
     
  9. BobaMatt

    BobaMatt TFN EU Staff star 7 VIP

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    What's more, you have to accept that you're not going to be familiar with every species you come across, and so when you see something weird you just treat it like you treat everyone else and don't ask questions.
     
  10. Eyrezer

    Eyrezer Jedi Master star 3

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    It doesn't work as an explanation for the two known Talz in the KOTOR era (see the Alzoc III article on the Wook for specific details) but one group of people we know visited the Talz before the Clone Wars was the... wait for it... Yuuzhan Vong! (As per Agents of Chaos I: Hero's Trial...)

    Maybe they surreptitiously planted the Talz on Orto Plutonia o_O
     
  11. blackmyron

    blackmyron Chosen One star 7

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    As probematical as appearances in the ROTE era are, not so much for the KOTOR timeframe - it's been established that the Republic lost track of a number of worlds between then and the Clone Wars, especially in the "dark ages" just prior to the Ruusan Reformations.
     
  12. Sinrebirth

    Sinrebirth Mod-Emperor of the EUC, Lit, RPF and SWC star 10 Staff Member Manager

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    The Sith War is getting mildly close to lasting three thousand years, so there's no surprise the Republic lost track of some planets.

    To be fair, the KotoR Republic seems to be almost exactly the same size as the prequel era Republic by the time the Jedi Civil War.
     
  13. jSarek

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    I think there are still some pretty significant areas outside the Slice that are unexplored in KOTOR's time.
     
  14. blackmyron

    blackmyron Chosen One star 7

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    Considering that the Hydian Way hadn't been discovered yet, absolutely...
     
  15. Sinrebirth

    Sinrebirth Mod-Emperor of the EUC, Lit, RPF and SWC star 10 Staff Member Manager

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    You'd think, wouldn't you?

    The Slice is pretty much filled up, but there's some kind of proto-Hydian that was an 'old' hyperlane connecting Taris to Telos to Peragus, and Toprawa is known at this point. Dantooine is in its own sector, seemingly, and the Revan Sith Empire controls as far rimward as Sernpidal, of all places. The Corellian Trade Spine and Rimma Trade Route have already connected Sluis Van, Bespin and so forth to the Republic. Iridonia is a member of the Republic, and that connects to the hyperlanes in the Core and Rim. So... I wonder how much has been discovered, and how little is simply lost because of the Sith War.

    Hopefully Jason will clarify this.
     
  16. Rogue_Follower

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    Official confirmation that the episodes are airing out of chronological order:
    This episode is indeed a prequel to The Clone Wars movie. As the series progresses, it will become evident that some of the stories are more in the format of an anthology, jumping about the timeline. This is especially true of the second season of Clone Wars episodes.

     
  17. blackmyron

    blackmyron Chosen One star 7

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    I don't doubt that there were ways to reach many of the planets that were later on or fairly close to the Way - witness the Rimma Trade Route which was also blazed around 3000 BY but had various portions of it found around 5500 BY. Those planets would just be difficult to reach or not as well known as they were in later years.
    Even the whole "Core Worlds" region wasn't discovered by the KOTOR era, according to the "Coruscant and the Core Worlds SB".
     
  18. TalonCard

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    So does this mean that Trespass also takes place before the movie? Or would the reference to Christophsis in the webcomic preclude this? I'm so confused... :p

    TC
     
  19. Sinrebirth

    Sinrebirth Mod-Emperor of the EUC, Lit, RPF and SWC star 10 Staff Member Manager

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    Preclude, I assume.
     
  20. The2ndQuest

    The2ndQuest Tri-Mod With a Mouth star 10 Staff Member Manager

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    The webcomic would seem to indicate Trespass would have to be after the movie, though it could be set earlier in the series than presently indicated.

    Though, ignore the webcomic and Trespass could even work as occuring before Christophsis.
     
  21. BobaMatt

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  22. Admiral_Stone

    Admiral_Stone Jedi Youngling star 1

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    Hmmm, seems to be both Venators and Acclamators--Nice=D=
     
  23. CooperTFN

    CooperTFN TFN EU Staff Emeritus star 7 VIP

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    Something from Hidden Enemy that I completely missed the first time - the clones say "piece of rankweed". :D
     
  24. MercenaryAce

    MercenaryAce Chosen One star 6

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    Actually, there were Acclamators in the first movie too. It was cool to see them with the Rpublic stripe.
     
  25. Darth_Foo

    Darth_Foo Force Ghost star 4

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    just saw the episode from fri 6th so sorry if i'm beating a dead nerf.

    well, now i can see this series happening after Obsession mostly because of the looks anakin and ventress give each other and her "i've missed you" to obi-wan.

    EDIT: just remembered that the 6 weeks left promo shows padme getting electro-tortured so that means the series can't be after Obsession. i doubt the writers would torture a pregnant woman. also the babies would probably die. so yeah never mind.