Lit A/V Clone Wars Continuity Discussion (Spoilers Allowed)

Not a spoiler or anything, but young boba (yoba?) returns on a couple of episodes (season 4 iirc)

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Yeah, it kind of is a spoiler given this is the first time I'm watching the series.

 

The Essential Atlas I believe

 

Sorry about that Ben...

 

What page is this? I'm looking through the Essential Atlas and not seeing anything stating that TCW (or the Battle of Christophsis, etc) took place in 21 BBY.

 

This getting revived has actually made me keep thinking about ways to try and reconcile at least parts of the two Clone Wars timelines, and more and more, it really seems like the biggest sticking point is when Ventress abandons the CIS. In the original timeline, Obsession takes place pretty close to the end of the war, and Ventress indicates the plans for the Battle of Coruscant are already underway. But in TCW, the setup for the battle is in the Citadel trilogy, which takes place after Ventress has already left the war in "Nightsisters".

Furthermore, the Dreadnaughts of Rendiil arc in Republic needs to come before mid-season 3 of TCW, since Quinlan Vos has to again be a Jedi in good standing in "Hunt for Ziro", and Ventress is still one of Dooku's acolytes. But in TCW Phase II clone trooper armor isn't introduced until season 4, except for the ARC trooper prototype version. In Republic, however, Phase II armor has already been introduced by "Dreadnaughts" - and while it would seem easy to handwave this, the issue of Republic that introduces it is actually part of the Vos arc.

In contrast, I think the much-debated issue of Anakin's knighthood is a lot easier to resolve - just move Jedi Trial, or preferably the better new-canon story that replaces it, back towards the beginning of the war in keeping with the microseries' alleged original intentions. The original Leland retcon for this ("Anakin had already grown out his hair, he just had it up in a topknot!") is honestly pretty silly anyway.

 

Been there. Done that. Did a timeline way back when. Retconned most issues up until the season 6 material to make it fit as closely as possible. It all more or less worked until Dark Disciple threw a wrench into things with Tholme.

Not that I haven't had ideas, but when the canon plug was pulled on the EU I no longer had a reason to update the timeline.

My problem remains that the war feels far too shallow if TCW the series is the only thing we know about it. I do enjoy the series, but it feels incomplete without at least partial EU influence.

But that's just me throwing out the same old arguments as usual.

Also, for the record... I have no real issue with the EU reboot beyond say... the start of Rebels.

 

Hurry up and get to the episode where the effectual Muun who talks like Alan Rickman and sports spiffy headgear shows up. He's a winner.

 

I loved your timeline and still have copies of it saved onto my PC. The thing is, it all could have fit together too until the novel Dark Disciple came out. That novel made almost the entirety of Dark Horse's Clone Wars run unworkable with canon. Now, only possibly TPB Volumes 1 and 2 of the Dark Horse Clone Wars run can fit with a canon timeline.

To this day, I still don't know why Disney/Lucasfilm felt the need to publish this novel out of all the Clone Wars leftover scripts there were, especially since it literally closed off future storytelling opportunities in animation and film with the death of a certain major character. A novelization of 'Siege of Mandalore' would have been better, although I assume this script is going to be part of the upcoming 'Ahsoka' novel now.

 

As far as I'm concerned, Dark Disciple didn't happen in Legends or canon.

 

Ventress: Vos... I'm so sorry. I lied. 'I' was the one who killed your master!

Vos: Sure you did. You and about half a dozen others.

 

Well, it wouldn't have been as silly if the animators actually put in a topknot, rather than it being invisible.

 

Well, I'm 6 eps in and this does sound quite cool, suspect I know who you're talking of when I get there.

Cheers, it's not a big deal, just that I'd happily consign Teen Boba to the nether regions of the internet for all time.

 

Actually, I just realized what episode he's after.

Oh. Ohhhhh. You haven't seen.... "Hunt for Ziro"... Ohhhhhhhhhahhhhahahahahahahahaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa

 

You mean in the land of Mortis where the shadows lie? Sorry.

 

Do you have a link to your timeline somewhere so I could read it? I'm interested. Or is it in this very thread somewhere? That said, it's a bit of a big thread for me.

 

Actually I do. Turns out I even have an explanation for DD, though it is definitely going to require some suspension of disbelief. I forgot that I 'did' update this. This is the most up to date version with new short stories included.

Month 1-12 ABG (After the Battle of Geonosis) (22BBY- early 21BBY, 1st year.)
Boba Fett 1: The Fight to Survive (chapters 1-21)(Scholastic)Death in the Catacombs (Insider #79)
Elusion Illusion: A Tale of the Clone Wars(Insider #66)
Clone Wars Adventures Volume 8: One of a Kind
Galactic Battlegrounds: Clone Campaigns(Lucasarts)
Sev'Rance Tan Campaign: Missions 7.2–7.7
Echuu Shen-Jon Campaign: Missions 8.2–8.6
The Clone Wars(Lucasarts)
Rhen Var: Mission 4
Raxus Prime: Mission 5
Boba Fett #2: Crossfire(chapters 1–8)
The Clone Wars (Raxus Prime: Missions 6–7) (Lucasarts)
Boba Fett#1: The Fight to Survive (chapters 22–end) (Scholastic)
Boba Fett #2: Crossfire (chapters 9–12)
Republic #49: Sacrifice
The Clone Wars (Lucasarts)
Alaris Prime: Missions 8–10
Rhen Var: Missions 11–12
Thule Moon: Mission 13
Thule: Missions 14–16
Clone Wars: Volume I: Episodes 6–7
Republic #50: The Defense of Kamino
Brothers in Arms
Jango's Legacy
No End in Sight
Republic #51–52: The New Face of WarThe Pengalan Tradeoff
League of Spies
Republic Commando: Hard Contact(Chapter 2–end) (Del Rey)
Omega Squad: Targets (Insider Story)
Jedi: Mace Windu: Schism
Clone Wars Adventures: Volume 8: Old Scores
Clone Wars Adventures: Volume 10: Graduation Day
Tales #14: Tides of Terror
Republic#53: Blast Radius
Storm Fleet Warnings (Hasbro Short Story Collection)
Duel(Hasbro Short Story Collection)
Clone Wars: Volume I: Episodes 1–5
Clone Wars Adventures: Volume 1: Fierce Currents(Dark Horse)
Clone Wars: Volume I: Episodes 12–16(Cartoon Network series: Season Two)
Clone Wars: Volume I: Episodes 8–10 (Cartoon Network series: Season One)
Clone Wars: Volume I(Cartoon Network series: Season Two)
Episode 11
Episodes 17–20
Clone Wars: Volume II: Episode 21 (first segment)
Jedi: Shaak Ti: Catspaw(Dark Horse)
Clone Wars Adventures(Dark Horse)
Volume 3:
Rogue's Gallery
Volume1:
Blind Force
Heavy Metal Jedi
Volume 2:
Hide in Plain Sight(CWA: Free Comic Book Day)
Run Mace Run
Skywalkers(flashback)
Volume 3:
The Package
A Stranger in Town
One Battle
Volume 7:
Spy Girl
This Precious Shining
Volume 8:
Versus
Pathways
Volume 9:
Salvaged
Appetite for Adventure
Life Below
No Way Out
Volume 10:
Chain of Command
Waiting
Clone Wars Adventures
Volume 7: Impregnable
Republic #54: Double Blind
Jedi: Aayla Secura
Shatterpoint(chapters 1–23)(Del Rey)
Legacy of the Jedi(pages 145–end) (Scholastic)
Jedi: Count Dooku(Dark Horse)
The New Droid Army(Lucasarts)
Republic Holonet News Core Edition 14:2:12(Insider #65)
CIS Shadowfeed Dispatch 14:2:14(Insider #65)
The Clone Wars: Hero of Cartao (Wizards of the Coast)
Episode I: Hero's Call (Insider #68)
Episode II: Hero's Rise (Insider #69)
Episode III: Hero's End (Insider #70)
Tales #19: Rather Darkness Visible
CIS Shadowfeed Dispatch 14:3:10 Edition(Insider #66)
Republic Holonet News Core Edition 14:3:22 (Insider #66)
Tales #22: Honor Bound
CIS Shadowfeed Dispatch 14:4:12 Edition(Insider #67)
Republic Holonet News Core Edition 14:4:14(Insider #67)
Clone Wars Adventures (Dark Horse)
Volume 5: Bailed Out
Volume 6
It Takes a Thief
Means and Ends
The Cestus Deception(Del Rey)
Republic HoloNet News Core Edition 14:7:02 (Insider #68)
Republic
#55: Rainmakers
Republic Holonet News Core Edition 14:9:01(Insider #69)
Republic Holonet News Core Edition 14:9:04(Insider #70)
CIS Shadowfeed Dispatch 14:9:08 Edition(Insider #69)
CIS Shadowfeed Dispatch 14:9:15 Edition(Insider #70)
#56: Stormchasers
#57: Lightning Rods
#58: Floodgates
#59: Enemy Lines
#61: Dead Ends***
#63: Striking from the Shadows
#64: Bloodlines
#60: Hate and Fear
#62: No Man's Land
Jedi: Yoda(Dark Horse)
#65-66: Show of Force
#67: Forever Young
General Grievous #1–4(Dark Horse)
Republic #68: Armor
Jedi Trial(Del Rey)
Clone Wars: Volume II: Episode 21 (remainder of the episode)
Republic#69–71: Dreadnaughts of Rendili
Clone Wars Adventures (Dark Horse)
Volume 4: Another Fine Mess
Volume 4: The Brink
Volume 7: Creature Comforts
Volume 10: Thunder Road

Month 12-24 ABG (21- early 20BBY, second year)
-Short: Skyewalkers – A Clone Wars Story
-GAME: Jedi Alliance (Sedawan, Coruscant, Rodia, Christophsis)
-WEB/116: Shadowed (page 1)
2.16: Cat and Mouse
-WEB/116: Shadowed (rest)
1.16: The Hidden Enemy
-RPG: WotC Miniatures/RPG: 25 to Rescue
-NOVEL1: The Clone Wars (film novelization)
The Clone Wars (Film)
Boba Fett #2: Crossfire(chapters 13-end)**
-JRNOVEL: Decide Your Destiny: Tethan Battle Adventure
-JRNOVEL: Decide Your Destiny: The Way of the Jedi
-GAME: Jedi Alliance (Battle of the Devastation)
-SHORT: Outfoxed
-COMVOL4: Colossus of Destiny
-COMVOL5: The Deadly Hands of Shon-Ju
-JRNOVEL: Journey Through Hyperspace (UK)
-JRNOVEL: Decide Your Destiny: Crisis on Coruscant
3.01: Clone Cadets
-WEB/118: Covetous
3.03: Supply Lines
-WEB/101: Prelude
1.01: Ambush
-WEB/103: Procedure
-COMVOL1: Shipyards of Doom
-WEB/102: Shakedown
-PODCAST1: HoloNet News 1 - A Galaxy Divided
1.02: Rising Malevolence
1.03: Shadow of Malevolence
-WEB/104: Agenda
1.04: Destroy Malevolence
-JRNOVEL: Secret Missions #1: Breakout Squad
-JRNOVEL: Secret Missions #2: Black Hole Pirates
-JRNOVEL: Secret Missions #3: Duel at the Shattered Rock
-JRNOVEL: Secret Missions #4: Guardians of the Chiss Key
-WEB/105: Mouse Hunt
1.05: Rookies
-JRNOVEL: Decide Your Destiny: Crisis on Coruscant
-NOVEL2: Wild Space
-WEB/106: The Fall of Falleen
1.06: Downfall of a Droid
-WEB/107: Discount
1.07: Duel of the Droids
-NOVEL3: No Prisoners
-COMVOL2: Crash Course
-COMVOL 3: The Wind Raiders of Taloraan
-PODCAST2: HoloNet News 2 - Rodia Supply Lanes Attacked by Pirates!
-WEB/108: Departure
1.08: Bombad Jedi
-WEB/109: Transfer
1.09: Cloak of Darkness
-WEB/110: The Dreams of General Grievous
1.10: Lair of Grievous
-GAME: Lightsaber Duels (Separatist Droid Lab)
-PODCAST3: HoloNet News 3 - Chancellor Palpatine's Approval Ratings Fall
-WEB/111: Bait
-SHORT: Hondo Onaka’s not so big score
1.11: Dooku Captured
-WEB/112: Switch
1.12: The Gungan General
-WEB/113: Headgames
1.13: Jedi Crash
-WEB/114: Neighbors
1.14: Defenders of Peace
-WEB/115: Cold Snap
1.15: Trespass
-WEB/117: The Valley
1.17: Blue Shadow Virus
1.18: Mystery of a Thousand Moons
-WEB/119: Curfew
1.19: Storm Over Ryloth
1.20: Innocents of Ryloth
-WEB/120: The Ballad of Cham Syndulla
1.21: Liberty on Ryloth
-SWTCW: In the Service of the Republic
-GAME: Republic Heroes
2.01: Holocron Heist
2.02: Cargo of Doom
-WEB/201: Act On Instinct, Part 1
-WEB/202: Act On Instinct, Part 2
-WEB/203: Act On Instinct, Part 3
2.03: Children of the Force
-WEB/204-215: Act On Instinct, Part 4-End
-WEB/3: The Valsedian Operation
2.17: Bounty Hunters
2.18: The Zillo Beast
2.19: The Zillo Beast Strikes Back
2.04: Senate Spy
2.05: Landing at Point Rain
2.06: Weapons Factory
2.07: Legacy of Terror
2.08: Brain Invaders
-SWTCW: Hero of the Confederacy
2.09: Grievous Intrigue
2.10: The Deserter
2.11: Lightsaber Lost
2.12: The Mandalore Plot
2.13: Voyage of Temptation
2.14: Duchess of Mandalore
Boba Fett#3:Maze of Deception(Scholastic)**
Boba Fett #4: Hunted(Scholastic)**
2.20: Death Trap
2.21: R2 Come Home
2.22: Lethal Trackdown
3.05: Corruption
3.06: The Academy
-FCBD2009: The Gauntlet of Death
-NOVEL4: Clone Wars Gambit: Stealth
-NOVEL5: Clone Wars Gambit: Siege
3.07: Assassin
3.02: ARC Troopers
3.04: Sphere of Influence
3.08: Evil Plans
-WEB/121: Invitation Only
1.22: Hostage Crisis
-WEB/122: Hunting the Hunters, Part I
-WEB/XX1: Gunship Over Florrum
-GAME: Gunship Over Florrum
-PODCAST5: HoloNet News - A Galaxy Divided (part 2)
-PODCAST6: HoloNet News - A Galaxy Divided (part 3)
-PODCAST7: HoloNet News - A Galaxy Divided (part 4)
-PODCAST8: HoloNet News - A Galaxy Divided (part 5)
3.09: Hunt for Ziro
-WEB/123: Hunting the Hunters, Part II
-GAME: Swamp Station Sweep
-WEB/XX2: Swamp Station Sweep
-WEB/124: Hunting the Hunters, Part III
-WEB/XX3: Droids Over Iego
-GAME: Droids Over Iego
-COMVOL 6: The Starcrusher Trap
3.10: Heroes on Both Sides
3.11: Pursuit of Peace
2.15: Senate Murders
3.12: Nightsisters
3.13: Monster
3.14: Witches of the Mist
-COMVOL 7: Strange Allies
-SWTCW: Opress Unleashed
3.15: Overlords
3.16: Altar of Mortis
3.17: Ghosts of Mortis
3.18: The Citadel
3.19: Counterattack
3.20: Citadel Rescue
-COMVOL 8: The Enemy Within
3.21: Padawan Lost
3.22: Wookiee Hunt
4.01: Water War
4.02: Gungan Attack
4.03: Prisoners
4.04: Shadow Warrior
4.05: Mercy Mission
4.06: Nomad Droids
4.07: Darkness on Umbara
4.08: The General
4.09: Plan of Dissent
4.10: Carnage of Krell
4.11: Kidnapped
4.12: Slaves of the Republic
4.13: Escape from Kadavo
4.14: A Friend in Need
4.15: Deception
4.16: Friends and Enemies
4.17: The Box
4.18: Crisis on Naboo
Obsession #1–5(Dark Horse)*
4.19: Massacre
4.20: Bounty
-The Wrath of Darth Maul
4.21: Brothers
4.22: Revenge

Month 25-30ABG (Rest of 20BBY, 3rd year)
-COMVOL 9: The Sith Hunters
-Darth Maul: Death Sentence
(Note: Death Sentence is said to occur in the "3rd year" of the war, likely putting the events of at least season 5 no earlier than 25ABG).
- Insider Story: Speaking Silently
-COMVOL 10: Defenders of the Lost Temple
-COMVOL 11: The Smuggler's Code
5.02: A War on Two Fronts
5.03: Front Runners
5.04: The Soft War
5.05: Tipping Points
5.06: The Gathering
5.07: A Test of Strength
5.08: Bound for Rescue
5.09: A Necessary Bond
5.10: Secret Weapons
5.11: A Sunny Day in the Void
5.12: Missing in Action
5.13: Point of No Return
5.01: Revival (Put in proper order on DVD/BD release, aired early on TV)
5.14: Eminence
5.15: Shades of Reason
5.16: The Lawless
5.17: Sabatoge
5.18: The Jedi Who Knew Too Much
5.19: To Catch a Jedi
5.20: The Wrong Jedi
6.01 - The Unknown
6.02 - Conspiracy
6.03 - Fugitive
6.04 - Orders
6.05 - An Old Friend
6.06 - The Rise of Clovis
6.07 - Crisis at the Heart
6.08 - The Disappeared (Part 1)
6.09 - The Disappeared (Part 2)
- Kanan Volume 2: 7-11
(Old EU Material with only approx. order/placement during PRE-YODA arc TCW time period)
Clone Wars: Volume II: Episode 22 (likely spread throughout TCW)
Republic Commando: The Chaykin Cluster (Campaign 2; Lucasarts)
Republic Commando: Triple Zero(Del Rey)
Star Wars #24: Silent Drifting(flashback)(Marvel)
Odds (Insider Short Story)
Republic Commando: True Colors
Visionaries: Deep Forest (Dark Horse)
CIS Shadowfeed Dispatch 15:2:29 Edition(Insider #74)
Republic Holonet News Core Edition 15:3:02(Insider #75) (Both must occur before Farr's death, so likely earlier than their original placement. Probably late 21BBY.)
CIS Shadowfeed Dispatch Year's Start Fete Day Edition (Insider #72) (clearly starts in 20BBY)
Republic Holonet News Core Edition 15:01:03(Insider #72)
Republic Holonet News Core Edition 15:01:13(Insider #73)
CIS Shadowfeed Dispatch 15:01:15 Edition(Insider #73)
Changing Seasons (Wizards of the Coast)
Part I: Guardian of the People (Insider #76: Hyperspace)
Part II: People of the Guardian (Insider #77; Hyperspace)
Republic Holonet News Core Edition 15:2:22 (Insider #74)
CIS Shadowfeed Dispatch 15:3:21 Edition(Insider #76)
Republic Holonet News Core Edition 15:3:29(Insider #76)
Yoda: Dark Rendezvous(Del Rey) (Probably early S3, before the Nightsisters arc.)
Medstar I: Battle Surgeons(Del Rey)
Medstar: Intermezzo(Insider #83; IDG Entertainment; Hyperspace)
Medstar II: Jedi Healer(Del Rey) (I+II are likely before Season 4)
Secrets of the Jedi(Part Two: chapters 21 to 33) (Scholastic)
Routine Valor (Dark Horse: Free Comic Book Day) (Sometime before S5 droid arc. Late s3/early s4?)
Brothers in Arms (Dark Horse) (Shortly before LoE and the S6 Yoda Arc)

Month 31-36 ABG (19 BBY, final stretch of the war)
6.10 - The Lost One***
6.11 - Voices
6.12 - Destiny
6.13 - Sacrifice (TCW TV Finale)****
Republic #72–73: Trackdown
Republic Holonet News Core Edition 15:01:13(Insider #73)***
?.?? (Production # 6.01) – A Death on Utapau
?.?? (Production # 6.02) – In Search of the Crystal
?.?? (Production # 6.03) – Crystal Crysis
?.?? (Production # 6.04) – The Big Bang
?.?? (Production # 6.09) – The Bad Batch
?.?? (Production # 6.10) – A distant Echo
?.?? (Production # 6.11) – On the wings of Keeradaks
?.?? (Production # 6.12) – Unfinished Business
- Short Story: Kindred Spirits (Prequel to DD)
- NOVEL4: Dark Disciple Part 1 (AKA Production # 6.13-6.16)*****
- Darth Maul: Son of Dathomir 1-4 (TCW Comic Finale) (AKA Production # 6.21-6.24)
- NOVEL4: Dark Disciple Part 2 (Unknown S8 4 Part Ventress Arc)
Clone Wars Adventures Volume 6: The Drop (Dark Horse)
Republic Commando: Order 66 (Pre-ROTS Chapters)
Visionaries - The Artist of Naboo (Dark Horse)
Boba Fett (Scholastic)
#5: A New Threat
#6: Pursuit
Free Comic Book Day (2005)
Clone Wars Adventures Volume 5(Dark Horse)
What Goes Up...
Heroes on Both Sides
Visionaries (Dark Horse)
Wat Tambor and Quest for the Sacred Eye of the Albino Cyclops
Sithisis
Republic Commando: Kashyyyk (Mission 3) (Lucasarts)
Clone Wars Adventures Volume 6: To the Vanishing Point(Dark Horse)
Evasive Action: Reversal of Fortune
Republic#74–77: Siege of Saleucami
Labyrinth of Evil (Del Rey) - (Chapters 16-End)***
Clone Wars Volume II - Chapters 23-25

*Obsession is perhaps the single toughest issue to tackle in the entire new timeline, due to it being the original ending story for both Ventress and Adi Gallia, both of whom have seemingly had their fates changed by TCW. Officially, Chee said that it is not Adi's final canon death nor the canon end of Ventress' story. After debating what to do about this story for 3 years, I have stumbled upon what I believe to be the best possible solution. Obsession occurs between seasons 3 and 4, after Ventress leaves Dooku, but before she begins bounty hunting. Dooku secretly recaptures her and brainwashes her. Anakin assumed her dead because of the chaos in their last fight in Witches of the Mist. Adi is wounded by Grievous, but survives this fight. After faking her death, Ventress escapes and eventually returns to the Nightsisters. Because she never works with Dooku again after Obsession, the original intent of the story (her escape from the war, and from Dooku) is preserved, while the story can still happen before Adi dies. This also ensures that Obsession doesn’t conflict with Dark Disciple, where the remainder of Ventress’ tale is told.

**Originally, I was going to have Boba Fett books 2-3 occur before TCW, but it turns out there is a source which claims Boba's escape from Bespin is roughly the same time as the TCW film. As a result, I am moving his escape ahead while keeping the rest of the book 2's events earlier. Books 3 and 4 now occur shortly before the events of the first Boba arc. Putting aside their differences, and having now gained Jabba's respect, Boba Fett decided to work together with Aura Sing after book #3 and 4, sometime after recovering Slave I from her, leading to the first Boba Fett s2 arc. Boba later loses it again in TCW to Hondo, but recovers it in an unknown story after s5, before Book #5. The helmet that was destroyed in his first arc was one of many. He remains in prison for quite some until the Rako Hardeen Arc. Shortly after escaping, he returns to working for Jabba the Hutt. He becomes a full time bounty hunter by the time we get to the s4 finale arc. Books 5-6 can occur in 19BBY as they were originally intended, likely after whatever was planned for the hypothetical s6 bounty hunters arc.

***The Lost One presented us with some rather unique problems that needed to be resolved after certain conversations in the EU. In LoE Chapter 11, Yoda and Obiwan had not yet learned that Tyranus was Dooku, yet it is discovered in this episode. In that chapter, they have an extensive conversation about Sifo-Dyas, the mysterious nature of the clones, and the mystery of a man named Tyranus being behind it. In The Lost One, the Jedi learn that Dooku was in fact Tyranus, so events have been moved shortly after the Cato Nemoidia campaign chapters to ensure that LoE still makes sense. Furthermore, Finis Valorum is still alive in the episode. His death by an Anzat assassin was 'not' confirmed until Republic 73, so that story must still occur after the Yoda arc, along with the holonews entry about his memorial. It has been decided that while Valorum evaded his assassination in the exploding transport (original canon suggested he was never on that transport to begin with), his would be assassin did not in fact find Valorum immediately. The events are presented very vaguely in the issue, with Vos mentioning the shuttle exploding, and the Anzat taking out Valorum, but no details. Valorum succeeded in going underground for a time, until he later resurfaced back in Galactic City, where he was 'finally' taken out after Sidious decided he got a bit 'too' close to revealing bits about Sifo-Dyas, thereby pushing Sora Bulq's assassin to finish her hunt. These retcons account for both his survival, and the Jedi learning about Tyranus in this episode, and also push the Yoda arc closer to EP III due to the major revelations of this arc. Events of LoE as a whole now occur more gradually spread out over an extra few months. Finally, one must take some things into consideration when addressing the Sifo-Dyas timeline. The timeline of his death is implied to be before Palpatine became Chancellor, but since Valorum does not remember the exact timeline of events, it is reasonable to assume that the mission with the Pykes began under Valorum and ended shortly after episode I once Dooku left the order, betraying his friend to gain control of the clone order. Sifo-Dyas probably confided in Dooku, ordered the clones BEFORE his death (since the Kaminoans know Tyranus is not Sifo-Dyas), and Dooku THEN took over the operation and chose Jango Fett as the template AFTER killing Sifo-Dyas, leaving the events seen in Bounty Hunter intact. Dialogue within the episode allows for this to be possible, especially if you assume Palpatine merely denied having 'any' involvement with Sifo-Dyas (which was definitely a lie). Finally, the Seige of Saleucami still started 5 months before Republic 74, it was now just a longer ongoing campaign that Master Rancisis and Quinlan did not join for the first 3 or so months. A campaign at Saleucami was mentioned as beginning in the s5 fugitive arc, so we can now tie the two references together as the early stages of the Outer Rim Sieges and start of the battle.


****Leland Chee pretty much confirmed in a Q&A after a screening that Moraband is just another name for Korriban. Lucas is a silly man. We know. The world, however, is explicitly the same. Darth Bane appears to Yoda in an ashy unknown Sith armor, said to be just an illusion, which could explain him wearing never before seen armor. However, given that Bane died by being turned to ashes, it is always possible he 'does' still haunt the planet in some ways just as so many Sith have before him.


*****Dark Disciple throws a big wrench into Tholme’s timeline, but the best way to address it is to assume he did something he was already known for doing; faking his own death. In this current timeline, he is last seen in Republic 69-71, Dreadnaughts of Rendili, which occurs before the show begins. This leaves a big fat gap where anything could happen to him between seasons 1-8 of TCW. So what may have happened? Seeking to go further underground, he fakes his death by allowing Ventress to “kill” him, even using a force technique to bind the image of the event to one of his lightsabers, which Ventress gives to Dooku. He then remains a hidden asset of the Jedi, convincing even Aalya to hide it from Vos. Since Vos makes no reference to him in Trackdown, one can assume he is still presumed dead by Vos. Meanwhile, Tholme uses this to help him more deeply infiltrate the Anzati. Eventually, after Dark Disciple, he finally resurfaces again, only to confront Vos in Republic 74-77 on Saleucami. During Dark Disciple, Dooku merely makes another of many attempts to tempt Vos to fully embrace the Dark Side. Vos falls almost completely in an attempt to locate Sidious, but continues to resist until he finally overcomes his temptations once and for all later on Saleucami. This requires a bit of mental gymnastics, but all things considered, it still makes it possible to fit in Dark Disciple with the rest of his story.

 

This is interesting:
https://twitter.com/pablohidalgo/status/801622625369735168

The Younglings actually had potential (no ROTS joke intended...), although I can't see that ending very well, even if they survived Order 66.

 

Would have been the General Grievous comic, essentially.

 

With Disney focusing on marketing for kids in Forces of Destiny, I would like to see more of these younglings pre-order 66, even if its just in 2d. Another story about them that is longer then a few minutes.

 

I'm glad the youngling arc didn't expand further. As Dr. Steve Brule noted, it would've been similar to the General Grievous comic. And it's a very safe bet that the younglings would've survived Order 66 too, in which case the story would be very similar/borrow heavily from Evasive Action and Dark Times: Parallels&Fire Carrier. Been there done that. No need to rehash Legends.

 

This is the people who made TCW that we're talking about.