Comic Events: Preview of the "Dr. Horrible" Comic

Well since the whole point of the new suit is as a tie into Civil War I'd imagine that there could be involved in the story. Or Turner didn't get the memo.

Do we know who is on what side yet? I guess its kind of obvious but I was just wondering if anyone had heard.

 

I think Civil War is going to be stupid.

 

Hey, if it carries on the fine tradition of "Avengers: Disassembled" and "House of M" it should be...wait, you're right.

I grew up on Marvel but even I can see how DC is so much better than Marvel now. Once OYL hits, I'll be buying more DC books than Marvel for the first time ever.

 

I visit Marvel's official site and don't see jack on this Civil War thing. Do I have to read Wizard to get a feel for what's going on?

 

There isn't a whole lot about it yet. The last page is pretty much all we know. Even the last wizard doesn't go much deeper then that. Marvel heroes split, fight awhile, earth shattering revelations, etc.

 

It's annoying to me, because Marvel are now making the mistakes that DC was. When Marvel started jumping ahead in sales, DC turned around and tried to copy the same style of play but couldn't match and thus ended up staying behind. When Dido came onboard he started their own way of doing things that reaped rewards. But Marvel got scared by it and started copying, leaving them up the creek now because the events aren't flowing as well because there isn't the years of lead-up that have been laid for DC to be able to pull all of this off. Marvel should have stuck to their game and not got stuck in playing the other guys game. It's hurt a few of their properties, X-Men being one of them now.

 

Its odd isn't it. At first it seemed like Marvel under Quesada had all the right answers. They were getting the big talent, they were putting out good books, things were going Marvel's way again. Lately though its been big event after big event all kind of bluring together. Maybe they started relying too much on Bendis.

 

I think it's a case of them trying to play it a bit too safe and relying on a couple of specific writers. That's my view of why X-Men are sufferring, because after everything Morrison did, they went and got Claremont to head up what was happening, who decided to wipe out all the stuff of Morrison's that he didn't like and just go with what he wanted, so the others had to follow suit. There was so much that was left to be chartered, but it's all been ignored for stories similar to what we've had for the last 10-15 years.

 

Claremont or Whedon? Ever since Claremont returned to Marvel he's been on an X-book but after they briefly tried letting him run the whole show they quickly realized they weren't going to get another Days of Future Past out of it and so they just kind of shuffled him off into his own little corner.

I thought Whedon was more responsible for taking the team back to it roots contrary to what Morrison did.

I don't know though. I doesn't even seem like Marvel can keep up anymore.

Edit: I agree they've been trying to give too much to just a few people. I'm serious when I say I think you can blame the current state of Marvel on Bendis. I was never a huge fan. The only thing I ever liked was his first Powers series.

 

Can anyone provide a summary for what House of M is/was?

 

When was the last time Claremont wrote something good? 10 years ago?

So is anyone reading the Marvel events?

 

Isn't changing the title to including "Civil War" a little premature at this point? "Civil War" doesn't start until May. Marvel has other events going on, such as "Annihilation" and "Planet Hulk" which will start before "Civil War".

 

I don't think so, everything now is building up to it so the title might as well reflect that build up. I'm wondering what the DC part will be changed to once Infinite Crisis is over: Will it be One Year Later or 52?

 

One Year Later/52 probably.

And about HoM.

Scarlett Witch goes crazy again. Remakes existance to make everyone happy. People relize this. Fighting happens. All but 198 of the mutants are gone.

 

And Bendis took eight issues to tell that, when probably half would have done the job.

 

Bendis is alright. But he spreads himself to far. Even Geoff Johns isn't that spread. Ellis maybe, but he takes a long time for most things so he can afford to pace himself.

That said, Bendis should never stop writing Daredevil, because he kicks ass on it.

 

Bendis is good at individual character moments. Big epic stories or team stories? Not so much. Daredevil is a title he knocked out of the park (so I hear anyway), but New Avengers? It's ok, but nothing special. I miss the old team though, so I'm a bit biased on that front.

 

Yeah, I'd agree with that. Like I said the only thing I ever liked of his was Powers and that was a much more intimate tale then anything he had done afterwards (at least IMO).

House of M, Avengers Disasembled, the upcoming Illuminati all largely fell flat.

 

Whedon has since moved the feel back to a more character-driven, lighter side than what Morrison did, and that I don't mind. He's doing so in a way that works, yet doesn't say that what happened before was a misinterpretation. I'm a big fan of Lobdell's run, and he leant more towards the lighter side of things, so it's not the spin that I have a problem with.

Claremont was given a couple of months in control of everything, and in that short time he undid some of the major stuff from less than 2 months before (eg Magneto), and still has a fairly strong hand in what is happening in the X-Books by writing Uncanny (don't get me started on the complete and utter POS that "24 seconds" was both thematically and plot-wise). He completely changed events because either he or tPTB decided that they didn't like what happened in the end. I can't stand that when the retcon occurs years later (a la the Spidey clone saga) let alone in a matter of months.

 

Maybe we've found the new character the the Wizard 52 thing was talking about.

Obsiden was making out with some dude in the latest Manhunter.

 

I've been reading the current Marvel output and been wondering if Marvel plans on repowering the mutants? The whole 198 thing is interesting for a bit, but I'd like to see the lost mutants get their powers back somehow.

 

Eh, on one hand it was an idea who's idea had been a long time coming. Marvel's mutant population was ridiculous to say the least. Anytime they needed any plot contrivance they just threw a new mutant at it. Getting rid of those kind of mutants will be better in the long run.

I'll take bets on how long they keep Magneto without his powers though.

 

While it makes Magneto's character far more interesting, IMO, I can't see him remaining depowered for long. It's a shame too, as there are plenty of good stories that could come of it. As for the rest of the depowered mutants, as long as Joe Q is EiC they'll stay depowered. He always speaks of how he wanted to "put the genie back in the bottle" on that so to speak.

 

They needed to.

What did Marrow bring to the game? Mutant powers of being anoying shouldn't count.

I think 198 is still too many.

 

I suppose 198 gives them a bit of wiggle room to introduce a new mutant or two if they want.

And Marrow brought AWESOME BONE SWORDS!!1! Nah, she was just a by-product of 90's character development "Let's give them a hard attitude and a power which involves pain! That's kewl!"