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Solo Complaints/Criticisms of Solo

Discussion in 'Anthology' started by MotivateR5D4, May 25, 2018.

  1. themoth

    themoth Force Ghost star 5

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    If they move away from saga films I’m more than happy with the future looking like Solo and Rogue One. There’s so much potential filling in gaps like this. And It’s hard to rank the films sometimes, because I actually like them all.
     
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  2. Mother_Talzin

    Mother_Talzin Jedi Master star 4

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    I like them all as well - including the Ewok movies! Solo just wasn't all that exciting, in the sense that the storyline didn't feel important. I was on the edge of my seat and emotional watching TLJ, but Solo didn't inspire an emotional reaction. But again, that's not to say it was bad, it just didn't resonate the same way.
     
  3. Jedi Knight Fett

    Jedi Knight Fett Chosen One star 10

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    I was not fond of that four armed creature at the beginning
     
  4. EviL_eLF

    EviL_eLF Force Ghost star 5

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    What?! What did you have against Rio? He was awesome!
     
  5. Lord-Skywalker

    Lord-Skywalker Hangman Host star 10 VIP - Game Host

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    ......and Michael K Williams would have made a better Dryden Vos!!!
     
  6. Cantina Regular

    Cantina Regular Jedi Knight star 3

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    I certainly didn’t hate the music but parts of it didn’t feel like Star Wars. I know it wasn’t John Williams so I guess that’s ok.
     
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  7. EviL_eLF

    EviL_eLF Force Ghost star 5

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    I thought Bettany did a fantastic job!
     
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  8. Gamma626

    Gamma626 Jedi Grand Master star 4

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    Dryden was an entirely different character when Michael was playing him. He was a CG alien. He couldn't participate in the continued production, and they didn't have the time to start over with an all CG character, and this Dryden was born. It's impossible to say what Michael's character would have been like, but I'm glad he wasn't in it as a CG character. I'd LOVE to see him get a real, as a human, main role in a different film.

    Same with Lupita to be honest.
     
  9. Pro Scoundrel

    Pro Scoundrel New Films Expert At Modding Casual star 6 Staff Member Manager

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    I see that you are still confused about our rules against bashing. Your comment above^ is a perfect example of this. If you can't articulate yourself better than that then refrain from commenting.
     
  10. ewoksimon

    ewoksimon Chosen One star 5

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    My biggest critique is that the film really loses momentum after the high of the Kessel Run. The third act is arguably the weakest out of any of the Star Wars films to date.
     
  11. Dagobahsystem

    Dagobahsystem Chosen One star 10

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    It's a good movie. Oddly, my overall complaint is that it wasn't very interesting though. Seemed kinda like a checklist of stuff to get through. Found myself occasionally checking the time, which I've not done during a SW film before. Not sure what it was, but I'll definitely need to watch it again sometime. Try to see if that helps me enjoy it more. [face_dunno]
     
  12. Bor Mullet

    Bor Mullet Force Ghost star 8

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    Agreed. I’d like to see MKW in a future Star Wars film. My guess is that LFL will do right by him and give him a role in a subsequent spinoff. Fett, perhaps? And as a human, preferably.

    Bethany was great, though. One of my favorite SW villains.
     
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  13. Bor Mullet

    Bor Mullet Force Ghost star 8

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    Agreed. I’d like to see MKW in a future Star Wars film. My guess is that LFL will do right by him and give him a role in a subsequent spinoff. Fett, perhaps? And as a human, preferably.

    I completely disagree. Found the Kessel Run pointless, tensionless and untethered from the rest of the film, while everything afterwards (which actually ties into the story being told) was pretty great.
     
  14. ewoksimon

    ewoksimon Chosen One star 5

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    The ticking clock of the coaxium was enough of a justification for me for the Kessel Run, and I thought the entire sequence was well structured, and Han's breakthrough moment.

    With regards to the third act, the misdirection with Enfys Nest was underwhelming, the double/triple crossing with Beckett and Qi'ra felt obligatory, and Qi'ra and Han's relationship felt too unresolved. And I'm somewhat skeptical about Maul's inclusion.
     
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  15. Bor Mullet

    Bor Mullet Force Ghost star 8

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    Hey, takes all kinds.
     
  16. Theo333

    Theo333 Jedi Master star 3

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    Someone had an aneurysm after the first 20 minutes of the story because it goes into a scatterbrained checklist of fan Honey Dos after.

    L3, Val, and to a lesser extent Rio were a waste of film budget. They were probably in a scrapped pre-reshoot version of the film but the sunk cost fallacy pushed them into them first act of the movie...where they died after just being introduced.

    Too many antagonists unrelated to each other:
    -The Empire
    -Marauders
    -Smug British Man
    -Kessel slavers
    -Beckett
    -Durr Maul

    Just stick to one villain, for God's sake. If you have to make a """twist""", then have no antagonist and then make Beckett the prime villain. Or better yet, a cold-blooded Qi'ra.
     
  17. JawaShuffle

    JawaShuffle Jedi Knight star 3

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    Yes, Thandie would have been great as Qi'ra!

    Interesting, I've heard the music for some didn't quite hit the mark. I enjoyed the music- it seemed to fit for me. I really enjoyed hearing some of John Williams' pieces in there (of course!).

    L3 was a character I didn't enjoy. Just seemed like they were trying to hard to replicate K-2SO 'vibe'.

    I also didn't especially enjoy the first third of the movie. It wasn't terrible and overall I enjoyed Solo, though the first part (esp with the 'sign up to join' and shortly after that), just didn't draw me in.
     
  18. JawaShuffle

    JawaShuffle Jedi Knight star 3

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    double post.
     
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  19. Swashbucklingjedi

    Swashbucklingjedi Jedi Grand Master star 5

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    I also think he was good. He seemed so nice- then he brutally kills someone and then is nice again. That was so sosiopathic it was cool.

    I disagree completely- this era of dark times is so great because everyone is looking for their own benefit- cruel world ruled by the sith morale in which syndicates are all equally evil- I think that having many antagonists is so great story-wise as well- having always one bad guy behind everything bad is too simple- bit naive really and such a cliché. It still works in saga-movies- and it is there on the background if this movie as well- Palpatine is still the main bad guy there- because he is the one on the top- this is his system. That doesn't mean other beings cannot be evil as well. Stand-alones being morally more ambiguous than saga-films makes universe seem more realistic. Evil comes in many forms and unlike real good that cannot oppose real good- real evil opposes both real good and another sort of real evils since it seeks selfishly it's own benefit.
     
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  20. Siphonophore

    Siphonophore Chosen One star 5

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    This is more of a question than a complaint/criticism.

    A homing beacon was placed on the Falcon. Later, the underside of the Falcon got scraped up pretty good by Han's maneuver, and then The Maw stripped off quite a bit of the Falcon. Was the homing beacon placed so strategically that it was not affected by Han's skid maneuver and the pull of The Maw that it held up and was able to transmit to Enfys its location on Savareen? Or, did Enfys presume the unrefined coaxium would be taken to Savareen?
     
  21. Swashbucklingjedi

    Swashbucklingjedi Jedi Grand Master star 5

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    I think that beacon held at least to Kessel- it was not the entire hull that was destroyed anyway at Maw- so it was probably just a bad luck for Han and the crew that beacon was undamaged while the rest of the ship took quite a beating. Then of course it could also be that beacon was destroyed there, but knowledge of Kessel provided by it was enough for Enfys and the gang to deduce Savareen is the place to go- because Kessel is only place to get raw Coaxium and Savareen is the best place to refine it. Works either way but good point.
     
  22. Bob Effette

    Bob Effette Jedi Grand Master star 4

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    With the greatest of respect I am baffled as to your stance here, and I also think that taking up non-existent causes like this actually cause more problems than they solve. The story called for Beckett's love interest to die during a heist, and for Solo then to make a decision that meant that the whole thing was for nothing. This then cements this underlying, uneasy relationship between Solo and Becket, and perhaps some motivation for Beckett's actions later on.

    So what are the scriptwriters / casting to do? Do they,

    a) deliberately cast a caucasian actress then so that the character can be killed without people like yourself finding it a social injustice
    b) re-write the whole story so that the character can live and people like yourself won't find it such a social injustice?

    Neither option are conducive to the type of inclusion and equal treatment that you are looking for.

    Just to add, I thought Val was a great character too, and I would have loved for her to have been in the movie for longer. I understand though that her death was pivotal to Beckett's character going forward.
     
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  23. Siphonophore

    Siphonophore Chosen One star 5

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    In A New Hope, Han brags about the Falcon doing the Kessel Run in less than twelve parsecs, but in Solo, he says twelve (rounding down). Did Han tell Luke and Obi-Wan a fib to make the Falcon sound even faster? Later, in The Force Awakens, Han says twelve. Which is it.... over twelve, or under twelve?
     
  24. Pro Scoundrel

    Pro Scoundrel New Films Expert At Modding Casual star 6 Staff Member Manager

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    Let's move on from the discussion about POC character treatment. This isn't really the right thread for it, and Jedi Jessy has made this same complaint about all of the new Star Wars films. She isn't likely to change her mind anytime soon. Let's all try and avoid the Maw.
     
  25. StarWarsFan91

    StarWarsFan91 Force Ghost star 4

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    Didn't care much about droid rights. I wonder if L3 was active during the clone wars and interacted with CIS droids.
     
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