Count Dracula--->Count Dooku, The names of Episode II, reflections of spirituality and politcs?

In the last trilogy we had names such as Han Solo, Luke Skywalker, General Veers, Darth Vader and others which made Star Wars the epitome of cool.

But in this trilogy we have, second rate Sci-fi names such as Mace Windu, Panaka, Sio Bibble, Ric Ollie, Padme (Pad me?), Nute "Raygun" Gunray and other less than imposing names.

I wondered if anybody noticed this about the Jar Jar Trilogy, the utterly horrible names?

Isn't Dooku the name of a bird?

YJ edit: Changed title at author's request.

 

"Isn't Dooku the name of a bird?"

Only if the bird is a cross between a do-do and a cuckoo.

The PT has its share of good names too, and the OT has its share of bad names.

 

Actually I thought Dooku came from duck .

 

Padme is part of a mantra recited by Buddhists (Om Mani Padme Hum).

Since George pronounces Dooku "dough-koo", I suspect that he had the japanese word "doku" in mind, which means poison.

And Mace Windu's name existed in George's early drafts for the original Star Wars.

EDIT: The syllables for Padme mean lotus, a symbol of wisdom.

http://www.zamba.com/BuddhasVillage/teachings/hhomph.htm

Thus the six syllables, OM MANI PADME HUM, mean that in dependence on the practice of a path that is an indivisible union of method and wisdom, you can transform your impure body, speech and mind into the pure exalted body, speech and mind of a Buddha. It is said that you should not seek for Buddhahood outside of yourself; the substances for the achievement of Buddhahood are within. As Maitreya says in his Sublime Continuum of the Great Vehicle (Uttaratantra), all beings naturally have the Buddha nature in their own continuum. We have within us the seed of purity, the essence of a One Gone thus (Tathagatabarbha) that is to be transformed and fully developed into Buddhahood.

YJ edit: Fixing link

 

Yes we also had Boba Fett, Jabba the Hutt, Mon Mothma, Lando Calrissian, etc.

And how can I forget Wedge and Dack?


There isn't a name said on screen that is out of place in the SW universe. Granted the EU can come up with some tongue twisters and double takes, but those aren't said on screen.

Just be glad they never said Porkins. That would really kill your already weak argument .

BTW, AOTC has supplied us with the coolest background character name yet - Kit Fisto.

 

>Mace Windu's name existed in George's early drafts for the original Star Wars

I think that's why it was rejected, it wasn't good enough.

 

So Windu was rejected because it wasn't good enough, but Wedge and Biggs and Hobbie stayed? Yeah...whatever.

Captain Needa - What does he need?

Chewbacca - heh, chewing tobacco.

Han Solo - Add a "d" in there and you may have a porn star name.

 

Captain Needa Oxygen Mask ...


Ki Adi Mundi, that's another good one. Don't forget Maul and Sidious.

 

Boba Fett, Jabba the Hutt, Lando Calrissian,

Actually I was going to include these in my list of really good names, but then the list would be too long.

Boba fett came from the name Bob falfa, the enigmatic character from the movie American Graffiti. And the name fett, holds up the mystery of the character quite well.

 

Lucas didn't reject Mace Windu because of the name. He rejected it because after finishing the scripts he didn't have any place to put him.

I like the names of the PT personally:

Qui-Gon Jinn
Mace Windu
Darth Sidious
Count Dooku
Padme Amidala
Ki-Adi Mundi
Watto
Jango Fett


They don't sound any worse than Luke, Leia, or Wedge to me.

 

I've come to like the name Dooku since I heard George pronounce it. Wonder why he didn't get the actors in the movie to say it like that?

 

Since the Dooku name means "poison" in Japanese, that seems to me to be a logical, creative choice for a villain's name and a cordial nod to the vast Japanese audience for Star Wars.

You're complaining about George's creativity with names, and yours is ksid?, lol,
Oh, the irony!

What does ksid mean? Just curious. I'm also curious where you learned Boba Fett evolved from Bob Falfa. What's the source?
Again, just curious. Thanks.

 

Who's hobbie? Granted it's not a very memorable name.

But who can forget Admiral Ozzel? Very little screen time, but very memorable.

Darth "Shopping" Mall!

And, tell me how many people know the name of Ki-Adi-Mundi?

And, How many people knew of the name Chewbacca, our very own chewie, and thought it was cool?

I'll grant that Qui Gon-Jinn, is a very cool name.

But, I think, GL cooked up the name Count Dooku after Cristopher Lee was cast, taking into account his....uhh heritage.

 

Who's Hobbie? A fellow Rogue in the Battle of Hoth. Wedge's gunner if IIRC. His name is mentioned, he even get's to say a couple lines.

 

From these boards, I've found out many people remember/know the name Ki-Adi Mundi.

 

I can't divulge the secret of my name .

hmmm...the derivation from the name Bob Falfa, I think I read that in one of GL's biographies or possibly from an Art of book.

We'll have to ask another Star Wars fan for that.

 

From these boards, I've found out many people remember/know the name Ki-Adi Mundi.

I know the name too ST. That's because I'm a nut.

But is it etched into the public consciousness?

Jar Jar was remembered, but for an infamous reason.

and btw, I think Wedge's gunners name is Janson.

"Good shot! Janson."

 

See, the thing is, you can't compare the names Ki-Adi Mundi to Han Solo or Luke Skywalker.

In the OT we hear their names all the time. We've never heard Ki-Adi's name mentioned in TPM or AOTC. We've only learned it from toys, books, or other SW media's.

I think it's an unfair comparison.

 

Why can't anyone just have fun at Star Wars movies anymore? He was just paying homage to the past films of Christopher Lee, an actor he undoubtedly respected. I don't see how GL puting in a little inside joke about "Count" Dracula and "Count" Dooku signifies the loss of GL's originality. And for the record, Mon Mothma is the worst name I've ever heard, OT or not.

 

the last shards of George's originality?

They could have called Dooku Darth Saruman but they didn't.

 

I like all the names mostly, except when he uses a word like an adjective or something to fit a character's style... then it gets cheezy. There aren't many, but I cringe when I hear the name Elan Sleezebaggano. That is the height of unoriginality. But I think Dooku, Ki-Adi Mundi and Padme Amidala are pretty clever and original.

 

You know, when i see topics like this, it really makes me wonder why Lucas even bothers to make movies at all when all people do is complain about the most trival things.

 

Yeah I was confusing Hobbie for Janson. Hobbie must have been Luke's wingman or somehting, he mentions him a couple of times.

I guess now I should crack on Kershner for being a lazy director. If he had truly been focused, he would have presented the characters in a more memorable, not as easily confused, sort of way.

I mean maybe if we had actually seen Hobbie and have him acknowledge Luke's lines the tension would have been there. Without it I get no sense of commraderie. The whole battle's just one big bore. Just an excuse to show off stop motion effects. This laziness is ruining SW. SW is almost dead ...



(Directed to all persistent complainers, you know who you are) See how when you step back and look at your complaints how ridiculous they sound. Pay attention.

Ok if Count Dooku wasn't a good enough name for your tastes, what is? Let's hear it.

 

At least it gives those of us who think rationally someone to laugh at... If some of you who complain about the PT so much think we're laughing with you, think again!

There aren't many, but I cringe when I hear the name Elan Sleezebaggano. That is the height of unoriginality. But I think Dooku, Ki-Adi Mundi and Padme Amidala are pretty clever and original.

Yes because Greed-o is so original. So is Hammerhead. Not to mention the entire race of Ewoks, remember they're just wookies cut in half! I'm just waiting for one of you nerf-herders to say that Leia is named that way because George was horny...

How many people think that the Count Dooku character existed in the script before Christopher Lee was cast?

***raises hand emphatically ala~ Arnold Horshack***


I've got 2 words for all of you:

DEATH STAR.

....so original.

 

You know, when i see topics like this, it really makes me wonder why Lucas even bothers to make movies at all when all people do is complain about the most trival things.

Tell me about it some folks are amazing

I think my favorite prequel name is Amidala. It just rolls off your tongue, and sounds, well... cool.