*CRUNCH* Obi-wan vs Dooku issue

Okay, something has been bugging me ever since I saw RotS and, darn it, I want an answer.

When Obi-Wan and Anakin are fighting Dooku, Obi gets tossed against a walkway and then Dooku uses the Force to make the walkway fall.

What I see is the walkway drops right onto Obi, right about where his legs meet his butt, and then he is shoved a foot or two by the walkway. And it looks like it is made out of some very heavy metal, I have to say. I would expect that anybody getting hit like that would suffer a couple of broken femurs at the very least, maybe a fractured pelvis.

But Obi-Wan runs down hallways, fights with droids and Grevious--not to mention making a daring escape from a falling elevator--mere minutes later. And we certainly don't see him use the Force to heal himself during this at any point, which is something that I've only ever seen in video games anyway, so I don't know how much to trust the existence of that ability.

Can anyone explain this one to me? Cuz it's bugged me for a while now...

 

The first time I saw it, I thought the same thing - that's gotta hurt!

I just decided it wasn't as bad as it looked.

 

it was a cardboard walkway, dooku's separatists were running out of raw materials as the war was ending so that's my story. It's in the OS I swear

 

He didn?t heal himself or anything like that. He just got away with no injuries (with the exception of a big headache). Surely there are other things in Star Wars that are a little more far-fetched than that, right?

 

Obi-Wan is super-human--PH.

 

Great topic! I too have been wondering about this since I saw the movie, and in fact every time I watch it, it only bothers me more. Yeah, I would think to have a giant metal plankway fall on you would do some serious damage. You would think Obi Wan would have been crushed, not just knocked unconscious. It does seem pretty farfetched that he would be okay in no time flat, and taking on Grievous and his guards. I guess this is another one of those moments we are supposed to overlook. I love watching the movies, and I can get past the glaring inconsistencies and plotholes, and just enjoy the movie, but it is still fun to question these moments.

 

Actually, no. I think the only thing that I find more far-fetched is how Padme could ever fall in love with a twit like Anakin.

Look, I've had a whole car on my toe once and it was only bruised, but the car went up-and-over quite fast so my only real injury was my pride. Obi-Wan took a hard hit that should have crippled the man...only it didn't even come close. I mean, he doesn't just get crushed in between the floor and the catwalk, it actually shoves him against the floor. I really don't see how anybody could get by without injury.

My willing suspension of disbelief is pretty broad, but there are some things that just stretch it beyond breaking point. This happens to be one of them.

 

two words: cardboard walkway!

 

The point is that this isn't real life; it?s a movie, a Sci-Fi movie. They?re suppose to defy reality.

 

Force-keeper, as always a voice of sanity. thank you sir for keeping it real. It's a movie. This reminds me of that SNL with William Shatner at the Star Trek convention. We are getting worse than Trekkies here with our nitpickyness. Enjoy the film enjoy and discuss the more emotional, and wide reaching themes. Technicalities and scientific accuracies are definitely not the strong point of a GFFA.

 

A real car or a CGI car?

It's one of those scenes that screams CGI, but I can forgive it.

In real life, I've seen people wipe out big time and get up like it was nothing...

...and others get slightly tapped and bleed all over the place.

Maybe if Obi Wan had limped a little in the following scene...

 

all it did was push him forward. It didn't land fully on his legs.

 

There appeared to be no broken bones or injuries. Anakin said Obi-Wan seemed to be okay. I think Dooku used the Force to trap Obi-Wan, not let the thing fall on him deliberately. I mean, there's no other explaination. Dooku was in control of the thing falling on Kenobi so as painful as it might have looked, Dooku is actually using his knowledge of the Force for defense. He is controlling the walkway as it lowers onto Obi-Wan. It's much different than say Sidious, throwing pods to crash into Yoda. Dooku was clearly trying to trap Obi-Wan, not injure him.

 

From what I can see, it's pinning his legs to the floor, and then slides him over.

 

Three words: Suspension of disbelief.

 

If you notice, when Anakin runs over to Obi-Wan the walkway isn't even ontop of Obi-Wan. It's like half of a foot above him. So, it never actually hit him.

 

Ok, well this scene woulda been fine if it wasn't for the part where Ob1 was dragged after it dropped. Kinda like the ol' "we have cgi! Don't let that forget ok" stuff.

 

I find it funny that right after that happens they cut to Palpatine showing great distress..."I love democracy"

 

I see what you're saying.

That platform was suspended by disbelief. Well then, no wonder it fell on on Obi Wan.

 

I agree, I think the most unbelievable thing about the movie was Padme falling for Anakin..what did she see in him?!?!

 

If it's half a foot above him...

...how did it slide him across the floor?

 

ROFL. That's a good one LLS. I agree that every time I see this, I think, wow, that doesn't look very real. But, there's a lot of stuff in Star Wars that makes less sense. Like Luke's "plan" to save Han in ROTJ.

 

Oh, crapola. There's defying reality and then there's defying belief.

I can get into the idea of the Force--something that doesn't exist in our reality as far as I've ever seen--and I can get into the idea of FTL and hyperspace--again, something that science has yet to prove in our world, if anything they've shown it probably isn't possible, though maybe--and I can accept a lot of the other things that the SW universe presents that are more fiction than science, which is--as you say--what Sci-Fi is all about. These are simply characteristics of the universe George Lucas has set up, and believing in them is pretty much required to enjoy the movies. No problem.

But then there are things that just defy the possbility of suspending disbelief. This happens to be one of them. Smash someone full in the face with a baseball bat as hard as you can; unless they happen to be Superman--or maybe the Terminator--I expect that they'll react in a more injured way than muttering "Ow," and rubbing their nose a bit. I expect blood and floor-writhing...or a damn good explanation why not.

Obi-Wan is not Superman, he is not the Terminator, and he is not invulnerable. This instance took willing susension of disbelief, crumpled it up, threw it in a wastebin, and then lit it on fire for me. There is no precedent in any of the films to suggest such a non-reaction to this kind of injury, nor is there any precedent in this world to suggest it's possible. So, quite frankly, I found it more than a little hard to swallow. So simply rolling your eyes and acting like somehow I've failed to adequately suspend disbelief might seem like a logical and rational argument, in truth it misses the point entirely. I've got willing suspension of disbelief, but it isn't invulnerable or impenetrable. Sometimes, even I will go, "Oh, come on! Bulldrek!". This happens to be one of those cases, indeed, almost the only one in the entire SW saga for me.