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Lit Cult Encounters and Supernatural Encounters (even more new Legends material!)

Discussion in 'Literature' started by Sinrebirth , Dec 26, 2017.

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  1. JediFett10

    JediFett10 Jedi Grand Master star 3

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  2. SheaHublin

    SheaHublin Jedi Grand Master star 3

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    I was just thinking about what the upcoming edition might, if anything, have to say about whatever Sidious' plans were for using the Old Ones tech and knowledge, as there are a few tidbits about it. Posting cloaked ships to guard Korriban, bombing Keeper's World, sending Thrawn and others into the Unknown Regions, storing Charon and Otherspace tech inside Mount Tantiss, attempting to genocide the Oswaft (they were an ancient race), and apparently feeling threatened by the Sharu:
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  3. ColeFardreamer

    ColeFardreamer Force Ghost star 5

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    It's fun...the Old Gods lure mortals with the prospect of becoming one of them and upon agreeing try to take over mortals as mortals try to resist and remain themselves and become a New God. Like in the ROTS naming ceremony where the Sith name seems to be given from some entity and a Sith is not just the former self gone dark but more, like posessed and merged with the old self.

    Palpatine remained himself in battle with whoever tried to take him over for a long time but by the ST he was all "All the Sith" posessed, at least at TROS end when weak enough to need the posession against the Dyad. Beforehand he may even up till TROS have been himself. Anakin as Vader never ceded full control to his posessor but rather on and off was trapped within himself. Kylo Ren never became a Sith and did not take a Sith name for a reason. Also Palpatine intended to not have an apprentice possessed by an Old God... rather as his own vessel only.

    Maybe that also explains why Palpatine is the epitome of all the Sith before him, but not as wild powerwise as Vitiate and some precedessors. Where those gave in to posession, he never fully did and was strong enough as a mortal to take some power and withold himself from the Old Gods. He was stronger than his precedessors, but due to posession but own will.
    In a way he was needed to end the threat and return balance, as he tried to cheat the Old Gods, and managed it long enough, till the heroes, Chosen Ones and the likes could end him and break the endless chain of Old Gods returning in new bodies via bodyhopping Sith lineage.

    Imagine the Sith as a Dr. Jekyll and Mr. Hyde style relationship with their posessing Old Gods. That'd explain their level of evil monologues and talking to themselves at least! And as giving in to these dark entities and gods means truly loosing oneself, no wonder they fear that and also the Jedi equivalent of Ghosting and joining the Force fully as they know it all as entities and gods and think Jedi are ignorant to give themselves up to something pretending to be just a Force. Of course, misunderstandings at the core of the divide again. As Jedi may not believe in or account for the Old entities their Sith brothers and sisters battle despite some reverence, as well as the Sith do not believe in an entity free Force above or between it all thinking their Jedi misguided.
     
  4. Darth Corydon

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    don't think Anakin had some old one trying to possess him while he was Vader the chosen one's own darkness is enough
     
  5. Herald of Lotek'k

    Herald of Lotek'k Jedi Knight

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    For something as truly evil as an Old One, I think they'd gain the most demonic satisfaction from seeing mortals commit atrocities they themselves had never even done. No need for possession at all. Just a little whispering in the ole degrading noggin and let the dark nature of the Force take it's course...
     
  6. Darth Corydon

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  7. JediFett10

    JediFett10 Jedi Grand Master star 3

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    Update Time, yaaaayyy!!!:


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  8. Force Smuggler

    Force Smuggler Chosen One star 7

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    From Joe on Facebook
     
  9. JediFett10

    JediFett10 Jedi Grand Master star 3

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    Yep, definitely feel like it could actually be released first 3-4 months next year.


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  10. QuinlanSolo

    QuinlanSolo Jedi Knight star 1

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    May the 4th, 2023?
     
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  11. JediFett10

    JediFett10 Jedi Grand Master star 3

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    Would certainly seem fitting!!


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  12. ColeFardreamer

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    release it during Celebration Europe in London... just to see the hype spread live!
     
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  13. JediFett10

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  14. RogueWhistler

    RogueWhistler Jedi Knight star 3

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    Has there been a new iteration of the canonicity discourse? I haven't heard anything on it in a while.

    I can absolutely understand why Joe Bongiorno wants to stay out of it, but I do find it interesting, personally.
     
  15. Coherent Axe

    Coherent Axe Jedi Grand Master star 4

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    Pablo was asked about it a few days ago. Looks like the account that asked the question is gone, but here's Pablo's response. It was something like "any update on whether Supernatural Encounters will be made part of the EU".
     
  16. Darth Corydon

    Darth Corydon Jedi Master star 4

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    there was a bit of discourse on the discord cause of this tweet . mods of the discord have since said the canonicity discourse/ copyright talk should be done with or saved until after the work is done and in our hands
     
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  17. Coherent Axe

    Coherent Axe Jedi Grand Master star 4

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    Don't think the fact that it's not canon and not official will change once it's out, but I'm just sharing what's been said recently.
     
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  18. Herald of Lotek'k

    Herald of Lotek'k Jedi Knight

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    Can I get a link to that discord or is it a private thing?
     
  19. TherenAdarni

    TherenAdarni Jedi Grand Master star 4

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    At the risk of opening a whole can of worms, I really don't see how anyone can argue that Supernatural Encounters can be considered to be a part of any Star Wars "canon" that exists outside of our own heads. Nor do I see why the distinction between "canon" and "non-canon" matters here. A stamp of approval (via tweet, I guess?) from Lucasfilm Limited wouldn't really mean much considering it's not going to have any actual influence on future official stories anyway. It would just make a lot of Wookieepedia editors extremely happy/busy.
     
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  20. iFrankenstein

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    The case was laid out by some of the editors who worked on the project in two lengthy discussion videos here and here, but at this point I can't really remember any of the details.
     
  21. Sable_Hart

    Sable_Hart Jedi Grand Master star 4

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    There have been half a dozen Tweets between Pablo, Leland, and Matt Martin to this effect over the past year or so.
    Respectfully to the fans who love this project, it's fanfiction. You're free to love it as much as I love Publius's Test of Wills or blank101's Son of Suns trilogy, but they aren't official or licensed and neither is Supernatural Encounters.
    I'm glad the word on this is starting to spread.
     
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  22. Hamburger_Time

    Hamburger_Time Jedi Grand Master star 4

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    I do get where the confusion comes from, though - some iteration of it was planned to be official at one point, and Joe said he has a licensing agreement approved by, among others, Pablo... which Pablo later said he couldn't remember signing off on.

    I was quite touched by what Joe said today, though - online fandom has become kind of a miserable place for the past few years.
     
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  23. Golbolco

    Golbolco Jedi Master star 4

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    Where can one read what Joe had to say?
     
  24. Hamburger_Time

    Hamburger_Time Jedi Grand Master star 4

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    Just scroll up; it was quoted here.
     
  25. Darth Corydon

    Darth Corydon Jedi Master star 4

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    I dunno they've mentioned Typhojem and The immortal Gods of the Sith just recently . And Seeing how theres various force cults in phase ii we can get more mentions of stuff from it ;)
     
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