ST Daisy Ridley (Rey) in Episode VII

Nope. Sorry, not good enough.

Oh wow, she finally decides to be a Jedi and then meets the Jedi master to start her training. Whoop-dee-doo. Luke meeting Yoda wasn't the climax of ESB; Luke deciding to join Obi-Wan/Ben and want to be a Jedi wasn't the climax of ANH. Both were pivotal moments in terms of the character's destiny - but not an emotional climax to a film.

 

It wasn't for Luke because Luke WANTED to become a jedi all along. Rey seems like the reluctant hero. She might have trauma in her past associated with her training/her force heritage that Luke didn't when he was growing up. She's repelled by the light saber. But when she picks it up to fight Kylo, that's a huge development for her character. So her chosing to become a jedi is her big moment. And it's a big moment for Luke as well if, indeed, his previous Academy was wiped out. It's his second chance.

 

I get the feeling that would have made those films a lot better. :/

actually didn't even know that (I'm not a true star wars nerd) good on lucas for trying to be more collaborative like the script like everyone thinks he should have. don't get why kasdan was the only other option though lol.

this is stupid tbh.

you could downplay anything with this logic including blood ties.

 

I disagree. And you can refrain from saying this is 'stupid' just because you are in disagreement.

 

Am starting to see another pattern emerging

 

lol not even trying to be mean just trying to keep it honest kind of like when your friend says something that makes you go 'lol wtf why' know what I mean?

 

I think it can work either way, but the saber hand-off is definitely better if Rey is Luke's daughter (which I now expect).

A lot of this will depend on execution. That's a banal observation, but its true. For fans who have seen the PT and OT, Luke's absence throughout the movie will be palpable. I'm sure we'll be engrossed throughout the movie, but lurking in the back of our minds throughout will be the question "where's Luke? when is he going to swoop in save our heroes' bacon?" When the stories basically over and we see the lightsaber change hands, there will be a sense of relief. "Finally." And then excitement for what's to come.

The tricky part will be the new viewers. They'll no doubt enjoy Rey and Finn's adventures with Han and Poe hot-doging in his X-wing. But JJ will have to lay the groundwork for that final reveal, so that the uninitiated don't just shrug and say, "Who's the old guy?" Luckily for JJ, there aren't a lot of these folks out there. Parents and friends will do part of their job for them by exposing newcomers to the OT and the PT. But these people do exist and he'll have to give them something.

 

Are you comparing meeting Yoda, a new character, to finding the the hero of the OT, the character everyone is looking for the entire film? There is no comparison. Especially when many have been waiting to see Jedi Master Luke since 1983.

 

No, he had his own career still going in the 90's still before the crash and burn of Dreamcatcher effectively ended it for a decade.

 

I definitely agree that meeting Luke at the very end is kind of anticlimactic if she's just lost her dad and only just reconnected with her mom. Becoming a Jedi is not as emotionally significant as....., well, anything I could think of apparently.

Jedi stuff is part of how these stories are told, but they are really not about Jedi stuff. That's why they work best when the Force is kept fuzzy around the edges and not over explained. Becoming a Jedi, it's essentially joining police academy and a monastery sort of at the same time.
It's cool with them lightsabers and all, but relationships is really where it's at.

 

My feelings have shifted a bit on this. Imagining the end of the movie, after the death of Han now...I'm just not sensing that seeing Luke as Rey's new teacher (if Rey is Solo or unrelated) for 30 seconds at the end of the movie will be a satisfactory pay-off--it might feel more like an inevitability, trading one mentor (Han) for the next...I could be wrong, and it might play out beautifully that way, but I'm thinking my main emotions will be sadness for losing Han and being pissed off at Kylo.

But if she's Luke's daughter, and we don't find that out for sure until Leia speaks to her near the end and confirms. Then WOW what an ending it'll be to see father and daughter reunited so many years later. Standing ovation and not a dry eye in the house.

 

I think whatever option they go with (Skywalker, Solo, Random, Kenobi) they'll lay down the groundwork so the ending with Luke is satisfying as a pay-off for Rey's arc but I agree that from what we "know" now - Rey Skywalker wins hands down for me.

 

That's the challenge with this type of triple-purpose ending. It has to be the emotional climax of the movie that hints at what's to come in 8, it has to resolve Rey's arc in the film and it has to re-introduce Luke Skywalker after many years away. That's a lot to load into one scene. I don't know if attempting this is foolhardy or genius...

 

The thing that doesn't feel right to me is: Rey longs for family/parents (based on scene where she stares at kid and mom) --> Rey loses her dad --> Rey is reunited with mom --> Rey bounces out of there after 2 seconds for god knows how long leaving her poor mother who just lost her husband. Unless that earlier scene doesn't actually mean that much or is cut from the movie, it seems too soon after Han's death for her to just peace out.

 

True, but the advantage they have that we don't (for obvious reasons) is that they know all the beats and the context and have built the story towards that point. Fingers crossed they get it right!

 

This all goes back to my theory that if Leia is Rey's mother, what reason does she have for not making the journey with Rey and Chewie to find Luke? And as filmmakers, wouldn't JJ and Kasdan want that cut back shot to the Falcon cockpit to Chewie and Leia's reaction as Rey meets Luke?

From Leia's perspective, You're just reunited with your daughter, her father is brutally murdered, and you only share a few moments with her before sending her off alone to be trained as a Jedi? That action makes more sense if Leia is her aunt, not her mother.

 

Agree - but to be fair to Leia, she appears to he leader of the Resistance which has just been all but obliterated. She may need to stay and rally what remains.

 

I hate Disney

 

Why?

 

'Cause they killed Bambi's mom!

Sorry... I don't know what came over me.

 

is that why Rey's codename is Fawn for Bambi (Rey) who lost his (her) mother as a child and he's (she's) thought about nature (the force) by his (her) father the Great Prince of the Forest (Luke).

 

Was the end of Star Wars anticlimactic? All they had was a medal ceremony.

It isn't about becoming a Jedi, it is about what becoming a Jedi means to Rey. It is about accepting one's place in the galaxy and fighting the good fight. Just take Luke. His story is about him him becoming the kind of person who defeat darkness and redeem his father. In this case, it was by becoming a Jedi.