Books A/V DARK DISCIPLE (Ventress/Vos novel) (spoilers)

Okay, as hilarious as it is, you guys need to leave this thread alone before you kill yourselves.

 

Having listened to a hilarious piss-take of David Tenant* reading a scene from Fifty Shades, then Ventress flogging Vos would make for an awesome audiobook if nothing else!

*Okay, not really David Tenant, it's an impersonator, but... it was sooooooo good.

 

If the audiobook gets Nika Futterman to do S&M scenes.....I would be soooooo happy.

 

No seriously I will break my vow and buy the audiobook if they get Nika to do it.

Otherwise no sale.

 

I'm unconvinced that TCW is fully canon in Disney's eyes. In an interview Simon Kinberg made it clear that only the 6 films are canon and then anything Disney does going forward (Rebels, the new novels, Marvel comics, EA games, and films). So if you don't like how Vos and Ventress are portrayed it probably doesn't mean that someone won't come around one day and retcon out this story and write something better.

 

They've said multiple times that it is.

 

Simon Kinberg says only the 6 films are canon.

Kinberg works directly with Kathleen Kennedy and the writing team to oversee the franchise which would override the Lucasfilm story group that oversees ancillary material (books, comics, etc.). It wouldn't make sense if one of Disney's writers or directors would be blocked because their concept contradicted an old episode of a cartoon that was made pre-buyout.

 

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Official sources have said many times at this point, very clearly, that TCW is part of the new canon. Perhaps one off-hand, casual comment made during an interview by Simon Kinberg overrides official Disney/Lucasfilm policy as delineated in official, written statements. But for the sake of your financial wellbeing, I'd advise you not to bet on it.

And it makes just as much sense as one of Disney's writers or directors being blocked because their concept contradicted an old movie that was made pre-buyout. Disney isn't currently in the business of flipping the bird to any Star Wars content that directly emanated from George Lucas. Maybe after he's dead and gone they will be, but until then, no.

 

...so exposition will be dealt out in scenes in which the female characters... no, sorry, can't go there. Well, at least the non-visual book format makes it possible for most of them to be gratuitiously topless.

 

Personally, I hope "very adult in nature" is more along the lines of showing how horrible war and violence can be and not glorifying it. And I don't mean going into gratuitous detail, but showing both the physical (both people dying and destruction of property, because that can also be very devastating even unhurt) and mental aspects of war, you can't just go fight a war and be unscarred by it, I hope we get to see some affects of the war from Vos and Ventress, especially from Ventress seeing as in TCW they say she committed war crimes which probably means she did some unpleasant things. Though this is Star Wars so I'm sure some will disagree.

 

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They jettisoned the ewok movies, the original clone wars cartoon and force unleashed and from what I remember hearing at the time Lucas oversaw all of those projects. Only time will tell I guess

 

It will never end.

He didn't. He might have stuck his head in once or twice and said something, but that's it. With TCW he was deeply involved in pretty much every episode.

 

Yah this debate isn't necessary, LFL gave a definitive explanation.

This is what starwars.com had to say about the issue: Emphasis mine

Over and over again it has been stated that TCW is canon. The canon purge was all very arbitrary, as not even all of Lucas' personal projects survived, but we know for sure that TCW did. Nothing about that is going to change for a very long time.

 

Guys I don't think Attack of the Clones is canon cause I find it somewhat boring.

 

The OT isn't canon because it's too far above the PT in quality. It's way too good to be a part of the Star Wars universe.

 

I loved how when Yoda mentioned it to Anakin in Season 6 he was all "Ugh, are you really asking me to remember that? Because it was so trippy that I've convinced myself that I was literally high."

 

I already know that but Kinberg clearly stated that as far as the new movies are concerned "only the 6 films are canon" and since he is working on star wars at a higher level than even the new Story group I'll take his word. You are right though that nothing will change for a very long time as frankly Disney and all parties involved don't want to go anywhere near the PT era but eventually (10-20 years out) some director or writer may want to tackle something in that era that contradicts existing canon and the canon of TCW is not going to stop them.

 

Kinberg is not what Lucas was. An off-hand statement that he made in a single interview does not override everything that Lucasfilm and the story group - of which he is just a member - have been saying since the beginning. You're latching onto one piece of evidence and ignoring the mountain of evidence opposing it.

And I wouldn't say they don't want to touch the prequel era in a thread about a new book set in the prequel era.

 

Isn't this just being made because its an existing TCW arc and Del Rey needs to fill the release schedule? Like that Dark Horse Darth Maul comic.