Dark Side Kyle Katarn/w Power of Valley vs. Luke

Interesting fact, I didn't know that, thanks for your insight about mitochondria.

Lucas words in one interview was that midi's were the star wars equivalent of mitochondria.

But one thought comes to mind, though everyone has mitochondria, I really doubt the you would get much of an increase or decrease for lack, or increase of excersise. The increase/decrease could be rather negligible. As well, we don't really know if force exercise is the same as physical exercise. They could be completely different things.

So kyle who is extremly active in his life as a merc, and pulling off one-man army missions could physically adding more midis, or maintaining.

Luke who tries to keep out of as many physical fights if can do it, may have lost some midis.

But said lost/increase is probably negligible.

Also we know that the force is but a connection to field that exist in all things, like rocks and trees. So the midi's must just give a connection to this field to those that use it. One can block the connection to the deepest sources of powers of the force, but will still have there midis.

 

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The only thing I can think is that your biased against Valiento for some reason or that barnsthefatjedi is your friend. In either case, JP, you are the one out of line.

"I'll see you in Hell!" is a quote from ESB. Thankfully barnsthefatjedi took Valiento's comments in his stride (and vice-versa).

All I've asked is for people to watch their attitude / tone in this thread. It was actually a call for future posts, not what had already been written. (ie I was asking for Valiento not to take the "See you in hell" line the wrong way).

This thread seems to be continuing well, which is great.

BUT people should be aware that canon can be interpreted differently by different people. Not everyone has to adhere to Valiento's definition if they don't want to.


EDIT: Clarity.

 

"BUT people should be aware that canon can be interpreted differently by different people. Not everyone has to adhere to Valiento's definition if they don't want to."

But that still gives no one the right, to call those that go by the dictionary definition of canon, Like I have brought up, 'deluded', .

If you want to argue with the dictionary and literary defintion of the word that is your prerogative, but that still leaves no right to flame others with words such as 'deluded'.

 

And you use the term innaccurate fan drivel, Valiento.

This thread is continuing well, and has been in good humour for the most part. Let's not turn it into an argument over semantics.

EDIT: LOL, I see 'deluded' is from Jomero's sig, not from anything written in this thread as such.



Now, back to Kyle vs Luke...

 

Already said didn't want to get into the debate. You can't tell me anything that I haven't heard over and over and over... and over and over and over... and over again by "Bib Fortuna, Twi'Lek."

I never called anyone deluded, especially myself. If you inferred that, that's your interpretation.

I honestly don't care what you believe. If people want to believe that "The Force" is really just a huge can of Mayonaise that Jedi's can tap into, that's fine.

Just don't force your opinions and beliefs down my throat. I don't do that to others. You have one view. That's fine. Your view isn't the only view. Neither is mine.

If there was only one view, then Chewbacca would be dead, the "White Current" would be an existing force (and Amidala would be an adept of it) and Owen and Kenobi would be brothers.

-Jomero

 

"If there was only one view, then Chewbacca would be dead,"

He is dead, "long time ago in a galaxy far far away". Last I checked, I haven't seen chewbacca declared immortal.


"the "White Current" would be an existing force (and Amidala would be an adept of it)"

No she wouldn't, and if you refer to BFC by book 3 you learn that akahna was lieing to luke through and through just to take advantage of him. Her whole story was crock, and she told luke so near the end of the 3rd book.

"and Owen and Kenobi would be brothers"

That wasn't EU related, that was lucas contradicting his own words. Which of course means that obi-wan was giving luke more half-truths, in his "certain point of view speech.", in other words white lies.

 

Now, back to Kyle vs Luke...


Enough of this canon debate please, back to the topic at hand, or I'll be forced to lock up.

 

I agree with jp-3PO. Let's all have a respectful tone. We can do that while still correcting information that may be wrong.

And let's get the subject back onto Kyle and the Valley versus Luke. ( After all, I'm only allowing this particular versus thread because it's original. )

 

I agree with jp-3PO

who?


oh, and Luke.

 

I don't care. Kyle found a lightsaber in his Dad's garage, beat a floating torso and a blind dude. He's a wuss as a jedi.

As a mercenary, he kicks ass.

 

Don't forget he also beat a fat blimp and his pigmy brother, ones that would repeatedly fall off an air chute to their own deaths if left to their own devices.

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Kyle found a lightsaber in his Dad's garage

I reckon! He couldn't even make his own.

beat a floating torso

How hard is it to beat a guy with no legs?

(seriously - was it hard? I've never finished SP)

 

"Kyle found a lightsaber in his Dad's garage, beat a floating torso and a blind dude."

He beat a blind dude that was said to have powers that rivaled vaders(His rpg stats were only slightly under that of vader's as well), see the completly valid darkside sourcebook. Then when he tapped into the valley he was even more powerful than vader, with the potential of becoming a god.

Oh wait, I guess that means that luke is a wuss for beating a walking geriatic patient on a respirator.

 

Do we really need to get into this AGAIN, Val?

I've said it sooo many times. LEC cannot write plots for crap. They are horrible. If they came out with a game where Kyle farted out thermal detonators and tiny Yodas came out of his nose and attacked whatever extremly powerful dark jedi master that somehow has a superduper star destroyer and no one has ever heard of him before.

If Jerec was more powerful than Vader why did Vader become the second most powerful person in the galaxy and Jerec hung out with 7 loser dark jedi?

The storyline is crap. The very thought of including it in regular sw continuity, even comparing it to the films and the events in the films, is just unthinkable.

 

What you think of LFL's stories and what LFL does and says about the stories are two different things. LFL policy is they are part of continuity. So your comments are pretty irrelevent. We are not talking about just games, but novels, and literature as well.

As well your comments of oppinion are red herring to take this thread off topic(having nothing to do with lfl's written continuity and stance). So kindly leave them out of the equation. As I am only talking about the Expanded universe in all it's many multimedia sources, and don't want to deal with a canon debate.

 

That's not the point. Just beause something has the LFL stamp of approval doesn't automatically force it to make sence!

 

Just because you don't like something doesn't mean that lfl stance on the isn't the valid stance of the matter. For infact lfl is the only valid stance on the matter. If if doesn't make sense to you fine,but it does make sense to me and others. So if you didn't find it easy to understand and it didn't make sense that is but your problem alone, and not part of the argument on what LFL has to say about it.

 

Valiento, perhaps you can put your skills to good use and help out this fellow, who has a Games related question about Force Lightning...

 

I wanta LEC storyline writer guy to comes into this forum and just say "Dude, calm down. Its a VIDEO GAME!"

 

Luke will smoke Kyle like a pipe. After a fight, Kyle would Luke's slave.

 

Where's LEC Webjedi when you need him?

In fact, where is he period. Haven't seen him here for ages.

 

I hates us.

 

Jedi bib you wanted LFL's and lucasart's official stance on it, if they were to come in here?

Here from lucasarts.com:

"Does George Lucas personally oversee all the Star Wars games to make sure that they don't conflict with his storyline?
LucasArts was founded in 1982 by filmmaker George Lucas to provide an interactive element to his vision of a state-of-the-art, multi-faceted entertainment company. Although Mr. Lucas is not involved with LucasArts' business on a daily basis, he is involved with reviewing all of the LucasArts game concepts and his creative energy drives much of what we do. In addition, LucasArts works closely with Lucas Licensing Ltd. to insure that all projects maintain the integrity and continuity of the Star Wars universe."

As well to further show that lucas involvement and the role of continuity, take a look at the making of starfighter video on TPM DVD, where it declares that lucas makes sure that the stories in video games fit into is views of the universe, and he gives many ideas so that it can be the best that they can be.

That's what you would get out of LFL, if they came in here.

 

where it declares that lucas makes sure that the stories in video games fit into is views of the universe, and he gives many ideas so that it can be the best that they can be.

Tell that to the 'Rebel Assault' team.

 

rebel assault really has no problems, that was gamma base on that unnamed ice planet. As well continuity explains that rookie one actually missed the shot at the end. It was luke that took the final shot.