Full Series Darksaber - Thoughts on this?

They werent ethnic Mandalorians but Jedi Masters that embraced their way of life, armor and war mongering and served Revan. Current canon seems to have completely eradicated the Mandalorians ever being aliens, Taungs.

 

That's a shame, because i liked how anyone could become a Mandalorian in the EU.

 

I'm honestly glad that isn't canon now. Specifically the whole "everything's a species" thing that happened with a lot of groups in the old EU just felt stupid.

 

I tend to agree. Although I liked the Taungs and Sith species, just as characters and designs rather than how they were executed. But new canon is young yet.

 

I'm just satisfied that Mandalorians have variety in their skin tones. That will do for now.

 

Bo-Katan does not have a British accent.

 

Maybe the American accent is default and the British accent is adopted by Mandalorians who want to have strong ties with Core Worlds. Satine and her regime had allies in the Senate and wanted to be viewed as "civilized" by the Republic; Saxon is cozy with the Empire...

 

The Kryzes also presumably hailed from Kalevala and not Mandalore. Satine did at least, so maybe it's a dialect thing?

 

You're mostly right; weren't the Mando Knights during the Mandalorian Wars? Meaning that at that point in time they were actually fighting Revan as the Mandos and Revan were still on opposite sides.

 

I can't keep track, allegiances were ever shifting, enemies becoming friends and friends enemies in the EU and even modern canon. They were formed from Revanchist, Jedi crusaders loyal to Revan though. Revan incidentally takes up the cause and mask of a Mandalorian female warrior who tried dissuading Cassus Fett from committing genocide on Cathar, and so vowed justice and led the Revanchist against the Mandalorians.

The name Tar seems to be a play on Tor Vizsla from the EU, least in name only mainly apparently. Judging from the Barbute/Corinthian style helmet and knightly attire, they kept crusader theme stuff intact. The Mandalorian Neo-Crusader armor(or helmet) that is also canonized, looks different than the stuff being worn by Tar. But all the timeline dating is still not known precisely. So am curious if those Mandalorians of Clan Vizsla that stole the sword got their armor design inspiration from him, or him them. Maybe at one point all Jedi and Sith wore similar armor like that in the past.

 

Pre did not use another accent either, when he was governor and posing as a Satine supporter. I don't see any significance of the accents, the umbrella "British" is also rather misleading, as some sound like stage theater/movie accents, others using cockney English, Irish, Scottish and even Australian. That also includes alien non-humans.

 

Well the Viszla Mandos in the animation don't look like Tar. They look like normal Mando armor. Tar's helmet had a very exaggerated version of the T-visor from what we saw, and this all "according to legend" happened roughly 1,000 years ago, and we know the Mandalorians were warring/warriors "thousands of years before the formation of the Republic".

Additionally, of the three murals we see in TCW/Rebels, two of them the Crusaders are using different swords, only one of the Murals (the most modern looking one) had what looks explicitly like the Darksaber while all of the other Mandos in the mural had rifles and swords.

So, my take is that Tar Viszla came about after the Mandalorians and Jedi had encountered each other, but before the end of their various conflicts together. Makes you wonder how Tar Viszla was regarded/treated by the Jedi Order. Going by what we see in Rau's little tale, he was viewed highly by the Mandalorians. At least it seems so, I'm not sure why else the Darksaber would be so special to them otherwise.

As for Jedi and Sith, that's a good question...I imagine back in those days when there was constant fighting, they both probably had their own distinct armor designs. Probably less armored then the Mandalorians since most of their fighting relies on speed and agility rather than brawling and brute force...maybe something like Bane that we saw on Morriband?

 

Tar Vizla was a Jedi, and created a lightsaber, all of that is typical of Jedi Knights. The color and shape of the blade is something else, usually colors of the blades are associated with the personality of the user in the new canon. Tar is the one that plants the darksaber in the animation, he's wearing heavily stylized and implied real world crusader garb, those other Mandalorians came at a later date & take it from the temple look more like typical Death Watch style of TCW timeline Mandalorians. Except for only the leader one is seen with the darksaber , all the rest are using blasters typical of what we see in the toons. Its the leader that is more interesting, he leads the assault and steals the darksaber and is presumably another Vizsla descendant , and is sporting a stylized crusader reminiscent cross shaped visor rather than a typical t-visor. You also notice that Tar's sword transforms into an almost cross atop of the temple in the animation. I think also it brings to mind that crusader type crossguard sword found on Malachor that is supposed to be also an ancient lightsaber design as well. Seems like Tar ditched the orthodox straight blade of the Jedi and developed a Falchion style sword.

The murals depict regular crossguard straight bladed swords(the bottom mural contains what appears to be a crucifix):

 

That's what I'm saying; Tar's saber seems to be it's own style as opposed to either a traditional Jedi lightsaber or a Mandalorian sword.

The mural I was talking about is this one



The Mando in the back is wielding what looks like the Darksaber judging from the hilt, and the others are using either rifles or some other kind of sword/blade; this is why I think the other two murals and the events they depict came before Tar, and this one and whatever event it represents occurs after him.

And that's not a crucifix, it's just two lightsabers crossing as they fell.

 

Agreed. I hope nobody recanonizes the Sith species.

 

The EU's origins of the Sith and the Dark Lords were among the best material.

 

Although I'm not upset that the Taung Mandos are gone i do miss the fact that in Legends any species could become a Mandalorian.

 

I was watching Person of Interest and this quote from Root embodied my thought on this episode: "Are you as excited about this as I am?"

 

We still hasn't seen an African , Northern Asian or American Indian Mando yet. But we can hope.

 

I mean it's not much seeing as right now we have Sabine, Kast and Sabine's friend the only ones with none white skin tones in comparison to
Gar Saxson
Pre Vizsla
Satine Krez
Bo Katan Krez
Korkie Krez
Almec
Amis
Zak Zak (yep that's a Canon Mandalorian)


The list goes on

 

Who is Zak Zak? That name sounds Gungan!

 

Interesting how they changed up the Darksaber's appearance in Rebels. Personally I greatly prefer the TCW look, the basic and utilitarian design is what differentiated it from contemporary lightsabers. What they did with smoothing out the ridges and adding a pattern on the hilt made it look more sleek and modern, which takes away a lot of its uniqueness imo.