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Darth Andeddu

Discussion in 'Literature' started by Darth_Krayt, Jun 28, 2006.

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  1. Darth_Krayt

    Darth_Krayt Jedi Youngling

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    According to Leland See, they have plans for him!
    http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Darth_Andeddu

    Now he was the first Sith that took the title Darth! Interesting!
    What should his story be? His has the same type of armor as Naga Sadow and those other Sith, yet more evolved.
    [image=http://starwars.wikia.com/images/f/ff/Dandu.jpg]
    I'm glad they are giving the Ancient Sith more attention,
    What do they mean with plans?
    *Novel
    *Comic
    *Videogame(KotOR 3, maybe a connection with The True Sith)
    *Those new series that George Lucas is writing
    *A new movie directed by our friend SuperShadow a.k.a. Nebras Foxis.(lol, )
     
  2. Senator_Cilghal

    Senator_Cilghal Jedi Master star 5

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    contrary to fan speculation on the Wikia, Insider implies Revan was the first "Darth"

    now Darth Andeddu is based off Korriban, and the New Sith Empire (2000-1000 BBY) was not, so perhaps Darth Andedduis the "Darth" mentioned in NEChr who took leadership after KOTOR II?
     
  3. Charlii

    Charlii Jedi Youngling star 3

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    But Revan can't be the first Darth, since Zayne used the term as an insult years before he turned Sith...



    /Charlii
     
  4. QuentinGeorge

    QuentinGeorge Jedi Grand Master star 5

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    contrary to fan speculation on the Wikia, Insider implies Revan was the first "Darth"


    Insider can "imply" all it wants, doesn't mean it's true.
     
  5. Sikon

    Sikon Jedi Youngling star 3

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    Good point.
    http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Darth_Sunshine
     
  6. Lord Vivec

    Lord Vivec Chosen One star 10

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    Then Darth Addendu probably lived before Revan and Malak, and during their travels, they probably found his holocron, and Revan and Malak decided to keep the "Darth"
     
  7. Sikon

    Sikon Jedi Youngling star 3

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    The point is, they didn't have to find any secret holocron with the name Darth in it. It was already well-known.
     
  8. BobaMatt

    BobaMatt TFN EU Staff star 7 VIP

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    Funny no one's mentioning his costume: he's wearing Golden Age era Dark Lord clothing.
    [image=http://starwars.wikia.com/images/a/ac/Nagasadow.jpg][image=http://starwars.wikia.com/images/f/fb/Naga_Sadow_Headshot.JPG]
    What makes this more interesting is that he's wielding a lightsaber. Darth Andeddu, then, was likely one of the original exiled Jedi to assume power over the ancient Sith race.
     
  9. Ive_Got_Two_Legs

    Ive_Got_Two_Legs Jedi Youngling star 4

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    Jan Duursema also confirmed in the recent Legacy chat that LFL wanted to use Andeddu for something. She also mentioned that she had just been thinking about him.

    Perhaps the two are related?
     
  10. Sauron_18

    Sauron_18 Force Ghost star 5

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    Technically, Andeddu could have lived from 7000 BBY to 100BBY. His suit doesn't really tells us a date, and the fact that every Sith Lord could be buried in Korriban (EE) also makes this more complicated. We also know his clothing isn't necessarily accurate, as we saw in ROTS. The context would suggest he was a Post-Bane Sith, but we don't really know.

    My guess? He was Post Bane guy. But he would really be anywhere.
     
  11. BobaMatt

    BobaMatt TFN EU Staff star 7 VIP

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    I don't get the reference.

    Also, all I meant about his style of dress is that it gives us a clue: it's what Mark Ragnos wore when he was ruler of the Sith.
    Why does the context suggest this?
     
  12. Sauron_18

    Sauron_18 Force Ghost star 5

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    In the ROTS Visual Guide it says Sidious Red Robes were some of the clothing passed down from Sith to Sith, meaning that they were from the Sith of old, used for rituals or whatever. I think his "fighting" robes were also Sith Robes. Either way, I don't think a holocron's clothes are necessarily accurate. It's probable, yes, but not necessary.

    Why does the context suggest this? [/quote]

    Tyranus talking about him, it doesn't say it, but that's why I said "suggest". I hardly ever see a Sith of that time talking about Darth Revan or Marka Ragnos or Sadow



    It's really just a guess, not more
     
  13. QuentinGeorge

    QuentinGeorge Jedi Grand Master star 5

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    He's buried on Korriban - unlikely for a Bane-era Sith, mainly because there weren't enough lackeys in that order to build a whole frigging tomb.
     
  14. Sauron_18

    Sauron_18 Force Ghost star 5

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    Vader and Sidious (either one) had a tomb waiting for them in Korriban. They didn't build it :cool:
     
  15. QuentinGeorge

    QuentinGeorge Jedi Grand Master star 5

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    We never see such a tomb for Sidious and Vader. It's unlikely to be like Andeddu's - which is absolutely huge, and full of decorations from the first Sith Empire.


    Tyranus talking about him, it doesn't say it, but that's why I said "suggest". I hardly ever see a Sith of that time talking about Darth Revan or Marka Ragnos or Sadow


    We don't see any of them talking about Darth Zannah, Darth Cognus, Darth Millennial, either. Doesn't mean anything. Sith are only mentioned if the Sith in question is important to the discussion.

    ie Sidious talking about Bane, Lumiya talking about Vecticus, Sidious talking about Plagueis. They're not big on sitting around a campfire and remininscing.
     
  16. Sauron_18

    Sauron_18 Force Ghost star 5

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    We do see it, it's in "Empire's End"
     
  17. QuentinGeorge

    QuentinGeorge Jedi Grand Master star 5

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    We do see it, it's in "Empire's End"


    And you notice it looks nothing like the tomb of Andeddu?
     
  18. Sauron_18

    Sauron_18 Force Ghost star 5

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    It's a throne, we don't really see the tomb where Andeddu's body (if it was) is buried. We only see Quinlan running around a tomb
     
  19. QuentinGeorge

    QuentinGeorge Jedi Grand Master star 5

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    So you admit, we don't see a "tomb" for Sidious or Vader at all then?

    Concession accepted.
     
  20. Sauron_18

    Sauron_18 Force Ghost star 5

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    No, I admit that what we see for Vader/Sidious is the actual tomb, the place where the body is supposed to "rest". We don't see this for Andeddu, we don't even know if it's his tomb, just that his holocron was somewhere on Korriban, not even specifically in that building.
     
  21. QuentinGeorge

    QuentinGeorge Jedi Grand Master star 5

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    On the very first page, Vos comes out of a tomb, clutching a holocron. It's patently obvious that the author intended you to infer that he'd discovered the holocron inside said tomb.

    That's far more likely than Vos having found the holocron elsewhere, and entered the tomb...for no reason at all.

    Really, there's no evidence for him being a Banite Sith except for your "BUT I WANT HIM TO BE!!!11" posts. o_O
     
  22. BobaMatt

    BobaMatt TFN EU Staff star 7 VIP

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    ^^ And there's no reason to risk this becoming a flame war, either.

    But yeah, he seems to be pre-Bane, though it remains unclear which Sith get the Darth title and which get to keep their own names. It seems only a certain strain of Sith use the Darth honoriffic.
     
  23. Sauron_18

    Sauron_18 Force Ghost star 5

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    Yes, because I obviousley speak like that [face_beatup]

    I'm pointing out that the fact that his holocron was in Korriban doesn't immediatley give him a place or time. Sidious/Vader had a tomb waiting for them there, so could have any of the Sith. I'm just saying that, so don't insult me and realize what I'm really saying.
     
  24. Lord Vivec

    Lord Vivec Chosen One star 10

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    I thought the original topic was what LFL wanted to do with Addendu (i.e. book, comic, game, etc.) not arguing when he existed. Until they come up with something, we really don't know, so its useless arguing.
     
  25. BobaMatt

    BobaMatt TFN EU Staff star 7 VIP

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    Actually, when he existed is extremely relevant to what they plan to do with him. We don't know what LFL plans to do with it yet, so this thread becomes about speculation, and what exactly has a lot to do with when he lived.
     
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