PT Darth Maul's survival story. Sliced in half...what happens next?

I believe in TCW she knew her place in the food chain.

And that's the irony. In Maul's mind, he and Savage are the 'true Sith' even though the audience knows the fact that Sidious and Tyranus are the real ones. He was a Sith once, but not since his defeat and apparent demise in TPM.

 

Maul is worth bringing back but were in what time period would he fit in.

 

Being defeated doesn't have to strip one of "Sith-hood".

 

No, but my point is that he was replaced soon after. Once Sidious declared Dooku his apprentice, Maul no longer was a Sith.

 

No longer the apprentice. He still had his training, and his desire to further Sithly goals (though he spent the next few years in hiding rather than in activity.

Still, just as Yoda or Obi-Wan are Jedi even in hiding, Maul can be a Sith in hiding.

 

No longer a Sith.

But Yoda and Obi-Wan never left the Jedi or were expelled. Dooku, as an example, was no longer a Jedi once he left the Order despite him still giving use to his Jedi arts.

Sidious and Tyranus are the de facto Sith Lords during the Clone Wars.

 

Maul wasn't exactly "expelled from the Sith" either - nor had he exactly "left them".

I figure that the moment Palpatine recruited Dooku, the galaxy had 3 Sith Lords - Master, Apprentice, and Master 2.

 

No, he was replaced and ceased to be recognized as one. Once Sidious picked Dooku as his new apprentice, Maul (dead or alive) ceased to be the second Sith Lord.

Master 2? Maul was never a Sith Master. And per the Sith rule, there can only be two, no more than that. Sidious calls the shots on who is and isn't his apprentice.

 

I suppose that Maul's return to sanity, followed by his taking Savage as apprentice, could be him "reassuming the Sith mantle".

Sidious was premature in taking a new apprentice before he had proof that Maul was dead.

 

Pretending to. He's not the authority, Sidious is.

Maul didn't need to die for Sidious to pick a new apprentice, but yes, Maul was still a big investment. Still, he did say he was impressed that he had survived his injuries. Perhaps he still felt his presence back then but expected him to die soon after.

 

The movies show no sign of him surviving at all.

"Always two there are, a master and an apprentice."
"But which was killed, the master or the apprentice?"

Sure seems like it was stated that Maul was dead.

 

That is why they've mentioned and surprised that how Darth Maul managed to survive until Clone Wars. Including Mace, Yoda, Obi-Wan, Anakin, Dooku etc.



Obi-Wan : How can this be ? I killed him myself.
Yoda : It is so, I fear.

TCW is canon just like Movies, and George Lucas agreed with Darth Maul's return, and he is responsible for it. Just like he is responsible for the first movie as well.

 

I've said this in the Prequel reboot thread which was I believe that a direct to Blu-Ray/DVD Darth Maul animated movie could illustrate his survival story from getting cut in half as well as an exploration of his origin story and perhaps have the movie intersect with events in TPM and not make him look like a throwaway character.

 

I'm done debating in this thread.

 

I personally think that Plagueis hanging around so long in the novel with his name on it is worse because there wasn't any point to it.

Anyway, maybe Talzin sent her magic across space or had secretly taught him a way of using his hatred to survive?

 

Talzin was essential in Maul's return to sanity and his former self, but he used the darkside of the Force to stay alive for the most part, as seen in the "Sith Hunters" comic. Whether she used spirit ichor to help resurrect him on Naboo is unclear. It would have been nice if those details were in a CW episode, because the comic isn't canon at this point. His survival is one of a number of unnatural abilities that the darkside seems to be able to provide. Maul and Talzins knowledge and abilities truly set both apart from other darkside wielders like Dooku. Even Sidious, who lured Anakin with the promise of saving people from death couldn't pony up.

 

Fixed.

 

Savage Opress, Palpatine, Count Dooku, Ventress, Maul and the Rebel's Inquisitor are all Sith. Just cause Palpatine occasionally, briefly, remembers that whole rule of two thing and tells Dooku to make a half hearted attempt to ditch his apprentices does not mean there are only two Sith. Darth Bane's will was not followed which is fine. Palpatine was never follow through on the getting killed by his apprentice part either.

As for the whole Dooku vs Maul thing. I think Dooku was the better character, but being a true blue red lightsabre-carrying Sith did nothing for him. All the stuff he said to Obi-Wan was BS cause he knew he was entirely working for the Supreme Chancellor whose corrupting the Senate and had Qui-Gon killed already. It would've been better of Maul survived (by not being bisected and dropped down a thousand feet pit in the first place, not because spiderlegs), and Dooku was free to at least believe he was an independent party. Maybe with a white or yellow sabre.

 

True. I didn't like the fact that they brought thim back for TCW, playing on the fact that the Jedi assumed Maul had died, (the correct assumption surely when someone is cut in half), yet it turns out he somehow survived.

 

Same Jedi assumed that Sith is destroyed and they would never return until Episode I. So, it has been just another misconception of the Jedi.

 

Since I am not a fan of TCW, discovering that Maul survived is disappointing to me in terms of what that meant for TPM, Anakin etc.

That said, I understand why to give more weight to Sith powers and such. Still not a fan but hey that's me.

 

A very silly idea designed for a children's cartoon. There's no way he survived TPM in terms of the movies.

 

You are underestimating the ''will of the Force''.

 

For Sidious, Maul had indeed become junk not needed anymore after he failed twice. Ironocally, Obi-Wan, who bested Maul, at the same time gave him the means to survive, Mauls hatred and longing for revenge on Kenobi. And Kenobi freed Maul from the shackles, Sidious held him on. He even could take an own apprentice. That is a lot of freedom, Maul never enjoyed in his childhood or youth. Yeah, sometime you have to loose something to get something in return.

To answer the Thread-question: After Filoni have revived Maul, it has been even more difficult if nearly impossible to kill him off again. I also don't expect Maul to loose other parts of his body. Maybe he goes to Hapan where they have means to restore his lower half. Or he is annoying Sidious a bit by stealing the Sith-Infiltrator, or a holocron which reveals some secrets to Maul, Sidious did not teach him before. Or other things dear to Maul or necessary for survival. If he has much free time, Maul even may produce his own holocron.

 

So the best explanation seems to be that Maul somehow landed amongst some junk at the bottom of that pit. He kept himself alive via the Dark Side & at some point was transported to the junk planet "with the rest of the garbage". Is that about right?