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Comics Darth Vader (Marvel) #2: Vader, part 2 (of 6)

Discussion in 'Literature' started by The2ndQuest , Feb 6, 2015.

  1. The2ndQuest

    The2ndQuest Tri-Mod With a Mouth star 10 Staff Member Manager

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    Another really good issue- and an improvement over the first issue at that. Vader is written very well here (the "you have graphs" line being a standout) and has that great hero moment early on, we had an awesome Imperial astromech subplot* and Tagge is presented as very competent (especially since Vader's actions actually prove Tagge was right about the pirates- even if Tagge will never know that) and I rather liked his "how many SSDs could we have built instead of the Death Star?" observation (wasn't that Pellaeon's view as well?).

    Probably the only oddity is Tagge's arrogance- he comes across more like Motti half the time, then swaps back to the more analytical and observant ANH character.

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    But, dammit, after this week's Rebels episode with Chopper's continued bloodthirsty nature, I really can't take any more Imperial astromech murders.
     
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  2. AdmiralNick22

    AdmiralNick22 Retired Fleet Admiral star 6 VIP - Former Mod/RSA

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    I'm joining this party late, but I just wanna say I love that Tagge is alive in the NEU. This is the kinda stuff I wanted to see Marvel do, so kudos to them!

    --Adm. Nick
     
  3. Iron_lord

    Iron_lord 51x Wacky Wed/5x Two Truths/29x H-man winner star 10 VIP - Game Winner

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    The ANH novel had Tagge voice several of Motti's lines before being strangled - which might be the starting point for the whole "Tagge family are Vader's enemies" thing.

    Maybe this is similar - Tagge is becoming Motti-ish.
     
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  4. Erkan12

    Erkan12 Jedi Grand Master star 4

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    I like that Cassio Tagge idea and his new position in the new Canon.
     
  5. Sith_Sword

    Sith_Sword Jedi Master

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    Who knew Vader was such a schemer !! [​IMG]
     
  6. GrandAdmiralJello

    GrandAdmiralJello Comms Admin ❉ Moderator Communitatis Litterarumque star 10 Staff Member Administrator

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    What a great issue! *This* is the Lord Vader I remember from Classic Star Wars and we saw in SotE and Ghost Prison. Fantastic. I'm on board now.

    As for how to pronounce Tagge -- I've always used the undignified "Taggy," but here's a thought: why not a German sound, like Guten Tag? I think it adds a lot of gravitas to the character.

    That was the first thing I noticed when I saw the final cover today. I was inordinately relieved that they not only used the Grand Admiral insignia from the EU, but that they didn't just use the Grand Moff insignia like some lazier illustrations in the 90s have done for just about everybody (most glaringly, Daala on the Jedi Search cover).

    Certainly beats the insignia we saw in the solicitation, as seen on page 1.
     
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  7. The2ndQuest

    The2ndQuest Tri-Mod With a Mouth star 10 Staff Member Manager

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    It was , ahem, laying around.
     
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  8. DelRiego

    DelRiego Jedi Grand Master star 4

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    In my mind, i've always pronounced the 'e' as in the German plurals, like 'viele tage'.

    Tagg-eh
     
  9. GrandAdmiralJello

    GrandAdmiralJello Comms Admin ❉ Moderator Communitatis Litterarumque star 10 Staff Member Administrator

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    It's not nice to call Daala an "it."
     
  10. darklordoftech

    darklordoftech Force Ghost star 6

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    Maybe Tagge's behavior in ANH was because he was jealous that Sheev favored the Death Star over his starfleet. Now that Sheev favours Tagge's starfleet, Tagge's enjoying his power.

    In the ANH novelization, Tagge says, "I think the construction of this station has more to do with Governor Tarkin’s bid for personal power and recognition than with any justifiable military strategy."
     
  11. EternalHero

    EternalHero Jedi Master star 3

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    That was much better than Issue #1. The writing was better overall and the story held my attention. Vader's "voice" was more consistent with the films as well. I also enjoyed the art more. I'm still dismayed by the panel layouts: here and there it gets into a groove but then it just veers off randomly, like a poorly edited movie. I'm not sure exactly what the artist is trying to do but it's very disjointed. Still, at least this issue managed to have a sense of pacing. Is this connected to Luceno's "Tarkin"? I noticed Crymorah mentioned and the whole set-up was reminiscent of that novel.
     
  12. Revanfan1

    Revanfan1 Force Ghost star 6

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    I've always pronounced it "Taggy" too, GrandAdmiralJello. I do like the "Tahg" idea, though.
     
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  13. Senpezeco

    Senpezeco Jedi Grand Master star 4

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    This is also how I say it. Most people I speak with pronounce Tagge like the English word "tag", though.

    I meant to say in my earlier post how fun it was to open this issue with Vader in his TIE. I haven't read many comic series, so I'm excited to start such a promising one as this.

    "Have faith."
     
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  14. StarWarsFreak93

    StarWarsFreak93 Jedi Master star 4

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    I believe it is. Everything is connected now in the new canon. The first sign of this was Palpatine having his office in the Jedi Temple.
     
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  15. cubman987

    cubman987 Friendly Neighborhood Saga/Music/Fun & Games Mod star 7 Staff Member Manager

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    Well this was pretty great.

    I know a couple other people mentioned this too, but the "Tarkin had vision. You have graphs." part was my favorite.
     
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  16. CooperTFN

    CooperTFN TFN EU Staff Emeritus star 7 VIP

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    I pronounce the "ta" like "tag", but I end with a soft G like in "gem".
     
  17. Gorefiend

    Gorefiend Chosen One star 5

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    This comic has some amazingly lazy background art, no wonder they just copied the movies for #1 backgrounds, though at least we are somewhere new this time. Humans still look really bad, the Alien pirates though at least managed to look decent. As for the story….. I still really don’t care, as it still feels really heavy on the “been there, done this” but then I might be the wrong target audience with having read pretty much every SW comic ever and expecting something “new “here. So for now I am dropping the series, let me know if it picks up down the line.
     
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  18. Captain RX

    Captain RX Jedi Master star 2

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    I bet you he's the one who gets disintegrated by Boba Fett
     
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  19. Captain RX

    Captain RX Jedi Master star 2

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    That was an R4 dawg
     
  20. Grand Admiral Paxis

    Grand Admiral Paxis Jedi Master star 3

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    Surely I can't be the only one hoping that Tagge doesn't die at the end of this? While I would completely understand if that was the case, given that Vader's ascent back into power would probably have to come at the expense of Tagge's own rise, I see no reason why Vader can't redeem himself enough for Palpatine to pull him out from under Tagge's command and have them both off doing their own thing. Of course I'm heavily biased since Tagge has always been one of my favourite characters since ANH, given that he was the only person who fully recognised the Rebel threat, and I always found him criminally underused - especially in comparison to Motti who, despite being the perfect thematic archetype of the smug, modern, New Order Imperial and therefore a fun character to use, was ultimately wrong about everything. While I won't let my bias get in the way of good storytelling, and won't be disappointed if Tagge's death does eventuate in a satisfying and compelling way, I'd still love it if he keeps on kicking for a while longer and finally gets some well-deserved fleshing out.

    I especially like Tagge's promotion to Grand General. While the only other Grand General, Malcor Brashin, currently no longer exists in canon, he was another Army leader who conducted most of his affairs within the Fleet, overseeing ground operations from a tactical suite aboard his personal Star Destroyer. I actually feel kind of stupid considering that it never crossed my mind that the references to Tagge and "his" Starfleet might mean that he had a similar style of command, until his new rank reminded me of Brashin. As for the pronunciation of his name, I've always said it in the same way as "guten tag" like Jello suggested, but that's just because I never liked the way "Taggi" sounded. :p
     
  21. GrandAdmiralJello

    GrandAdmiralJello Comms Admin ❉ Moderator Communitatis Litterarumque star 10 Staff Member Administrator

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    Speaking of background art, it was interesting to see a marble colonnade inside a Super Star Destroyer.
     
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  22. LelalMekha

    LelalMekha Jedi Grand Master star 5

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    I'm still a bit irratated bu the whole army/navy confusion though. Aren't you, GrandAdmiralJello, of all people?
     
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  23. CooperTFN

    CooperTFN TFN EU Staff Emeritus star 7 VIP

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    Bonus points is he gets pushed in front of a train.
     
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  24. AdmiralNick22

    AdmiralNick22 Retired Fleet Admiral star 6 VIP - Former Mod/RSA

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    Yeah, that kinda bugs me a bit. Love the return of Tagge, love the references, but associating a Grand General with the Imperial Starfleet is just weird. It would be like hearing Admiral Piett gushing over battalions of stormtroopers and formations of Imperial walkers.

    --Adm. Nick
     
  25. Mmmmm Napalm

    Mmmmm Napalm Jedi Knight star 1

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    I have to admit, the title of Grand General bothers me a lot.