Discussion Dave Filoni’s Star Wars Film (It’s Heir to the Empire, folks. I know it, you know it!)

Why would we want to see a computerized likeness and voice instead of a breathing human thespian?

 

This will be an ensemble film, just like Rogue One is. And Luke will be in it, i am almost sure about that.
So how do you make sure he does not «steal» the focus from, Ahsoka, Mando, Ezra, Sabine, Grogu etc?

- Do not want to see him as a deus ex machina tool. Showing up in the last 5 minutes saving everyone. A bit like Lando at the end of TROS. It works in Mando season 2 ending, but not a second time.

- Lots of fans want Luke to have a family, a Mara Jade type of woman and children. Well, then the film require that you explain and show their relationship - and there is no time for that in an ensemble film. Rogue One manages to balance multiple character archs at the same time brilliant - but only Jynn gets a 3D treatment of her family background. Then again if you just get a glimpse of Luke and his family, there will be even more questions about that and in relation to the ST.

Thats interesting though, beacuse thats where the drama potensial is. Showing Luke happy as a family man is cool and well. But not that interesting in a movie like this.

So then you end up with a cameo of Luke only - or a glorified OT 3 cameo at the backdrop of the post ROTJ events and the NP vrs Thrawn etc. This is the likely scenario i say.

Luke as a big part of the ensemble that fights together against a common enemy - will also require a recast.

 

Maybe it's deliberately small so it's a convenient excuse for Thrawn and the Nightsisters not finding whatever major thing it is.

 

Personally i hope someone takes out those witches/ Nightsisters long before we reach the Filoni film. And please no witch cackling death cliche.

 

Oh the Witches will be one of the main villains in Filoni's movie

 

Good point!

 

Well, i can live with that then - but still: No Palpy type cackling when they die please

Edit: Just to specify that i was not a huge fan of their design, voices and partly cliche Witch act in Ahsoka. I still like the concept of the Nightsisters in general and promising lore expansion they could bring.

 

Only Plalpy dies cackling in this universe

 

I sure didn't notice. It was mentioned on the board so I rewatched a couple of times before I "got" it. Far more ominous than the statues of the Father and Son.

 

It’s also similar to the light above the building in the Mortis episode arc

 

Would this be OK?

 

Intereting. My take is it’s more like a warning beacon for the witches. They want off the planet and out of that entire galaxy because of whatever power Baylan is looking for. It’s not their friend.

I look forward to finding out.

They have to have a big time Force powerful threat that keeps Luke occupied. Someone or some
Group more powerful and dangerous than a ship full of Dark Troopers.

Kylo Ren was never that in The Force Awakens.

 

I’m also glad we finally have live-action Nightsisters.

I always enjoyed the concept art for a female dark sider as Sarth Sidious’s PR apprentice, before Maul and then Dooku were finalized instead. That concept art was later used for the Nightsisters in TCW. It’s finally coming full-circle.

 

Well, I am not sure what to hope here. Of course it would be cool to have a 200 Million big event movie take on Ahsoka and Mandalorian teaming up … with Nightsisters, Thrawn and yeah … D&D Morris for christs sake … but … giving the viewership of Ahsoka atm I am not sure if you should make a movie that makes the TV shows essential watching beforehand. It sounds like the kind of movie that limits it’s viewership before it even gets off the ground.

So a part of me hopes is that all kind of things will be resolved in Season 2 and the Filoni movie finds a way to be approachable to a broad audience. Just to make sure it isn’t the end of the Filoni era.

 

I don't know why anyone would doubt that the movie will be approachable for newcomers. Star Wars movies always are.

 

I can only speak for myself, but there's a big difference between Luke Skywalker appearing alongside brand new characters that I have no investment in (like in the ST), and him appearing alongside pre-established characters that I already love (like what might happen in this movie). Luke's presence is only distracting in the first scenario.

 

I do understand that. You could argue that he has already been established to know some of these characters ( Grogu , Ahsoka and Din Djarin), from 2, 3 episodes of the tv series. I would also prefer to have no Luke in this film ( or just a tiny cameo), but i think they will use him because of the huge promo value for the film. And i think Filoni is able to write something good for him. Darth Vader only needed 5 minutes of screen time in Rogue One and everyone was drooling.

 

Luke Skywalker is Star Wars or the Skywalker blood line more specifically. Nothing will move the needle as much as the real master Jedi Luke Skywalker back on the big screen.

Not the let me “subvert your expectations” Rian Johnson version, but the real Luke.

The only reason they won’t bring Luke back in this is if they just don’t want to make more money. The OT fan base has mostly walked away due to how their hero’s were deconstructed in the Disney ST. If you want them back, you have to respect Luke, Han, Leia, and Chewy. It’s really that simple.

 

A pretty incredible 5 minutes indeed!

Vader is unquestionably one of the best villains every created in cinematic history.

 

Eh, he's alright.

 

Vader being such a great villain is why I still say Kylo was a foolish idea. Kylo ended up coming across as a dollar general version of Vader. One of the biggest issues of the ST was the lack a viable villain. They decided to bring back Palpatine as a way of addressing this, which was a foolish decision also IMHO.

 

Kylo Ren was always the Vader fanboy. He was never meant to be the main villain hence Snoke and Palpatine.