Deactivate The Hyperdrive?(ESB)

Why didn't Vader just order it *destroyed*?

Unless ,part of the good side was showing up in him?

After all,that is why he only maimed Luke and didn't *kill* him.....


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Maybe destroying the hyperdrive would affect other systems and render the ship unusable. Maybe Vader figured they'd eventually lead him back to where the Rebels were hiding, so he wanted the ship crippled but still functional. Maybe "deactivate" is Sith Slang for "bust that mutha, yo!"

 

Keep in mind, the cargo on the ship was Princess Leia. Once they plot in a heading the Empire can calculate where they are going and this could provide valuable intelligence. The Empire potentially would be able to figure out where another rebel base is.

And if you look at where the Falcon wound up they went to the Rebel fleet. I believe you cannot track a ship in hyperspace, but you can track one just flying with regular engines. It was a smart tactical move by Vader.

 

The Empire would have gotten away with it if it hadn't been for that meddling Astromech. They (or rather Chewbacca) wouldn't have found the mistake in time had R2 not downloaded the information from Cloud City's computer.

Now the only question is why they log "Disabled Millenium Falcon's Hyperdrive" in the freaking central computer
Maybe they told maintenance to do it as not to arouse suspicion (never mind the hundreds of Stormtroopers...) and they log it habitually.
Yeah, I don't believe that myself....

 

You know... this is something I've been thinking about for some time now. The Empire does what it does, yeah we all understand that. But I really wonder how much the Empire does that they cover up in order to seem legitimate? For example destroying the hyperdrive is sabotage, but deactivating it will make it appear as a malfuntion. I wonder if they do certain things like this as opposed to blatant acts of evil to avoid public backlash.

Just a working theory, and yes it has a lot of holes in it.

 

Well if the Imperials completely busted the hyperdrive, Lando and the others would've found out about it and taken a different ship instead.

 

That's what I think too. Destroy the Falcon, and the Rebels would have just taken another ship, one that could easily make the jump to hyperspace. At least with just deactivating the hyperdrive on the Falcon, you ensure the Rebels get onboard without suspecting anything, make a mad dash for space, right into the trap where they can be easily caught.

Well they didn't log it. The City's Central Computer, which to my understanding means the droid brain (with a personality) decided to have a conversation with R2 regarding what's been happening. Idle chit-chat kinda thing.

 

I agree that subtly disabling the falcon was the best way to try and capture the rebels should they escape.

The empire may not have been aware that their efforts to disable the hyperdrive were discovered. The Falcon was probably being monitored on Cloud city during the repairs to aid the workers. the Imperial troops came in and dismantled the hyper drive (although why they don't just permenantly remove a key part so that it cannot be repaired is beyond me) and the computer knows this and makes a generic entry for the crew to repair it the next time they go on board.

 

Okay. How does it know?

 

I think that Vader wanted the ship for himself after he captured Luke and company. There is enough space for him to seal off a room and make it a hyperbaric chamber so he can take his make off and relax for a bit, and it is a fast ship that Vader/Anakin would love to play with.

 

was it just Leia? I believe that Vader knew Luke was going to be found by the Falcon and only he knew why. KNowing the force also lets you inot a new perspective. Could Vader hear Luke calling out to Leia, and so many different other views!

 

I think i can explain this.

The empire did not disable the hyperdrive, Lando's people did.

They logged, as i am required to do (i work on government satellite communications systems) absolutely everything they did to the system.

Lando told han he would have his people fix the falcon, and they did fix the hyperdrive, they completely repaired it.

Like the good little workers they are they also obeyed their order to turn it "off", but fix it.

No one told the men doing the work that it was a secret or a sting, why would you?

they don't need to know your tactics so they logged that they fixed it and that they turned it off.

When R2 was opening the door to the hanger he downloaded the repair logs for the falcon including all the work lando's people did, including turning the hyper drive "off".

it's really kinda simple to me, the empire is like the US government in a lot of ways, in this case it's similar in that the left hand doesn't know what the right hand is doing, and it bit em.

 

it was my suggestion that they logged it - Falcon said they didn't

 

you're right, i picked the wrong post to quote.

it's not the first time and something tells me it won't be the last time i mess that up.

 

My theory is that its "aware" of things just like we are and the other droids. Perhaps it has security camera's as eyes and caught the Imperials deactivating the Hyperdrive. Perhaps a droid working for the Imperials has a "conversation" with the Central Computer like R2-D2 does. Throughout the movies the droids are personified but specifically in these scenes: "The City Central computer told you? R2-D2, you know better than to trust a strange computer. R2 didn't just do a data dump, it talked to the Central Computer.

If you think about it, it as you said Senny; why would the Imperials "log" their sabotage with the risk the Rebels finding out and taking another ship? The answer is: they wouldn't.

 

so, it's droid-gossip? I like that. It's yet another thing the Empire doesn't think about (they're "just droids") and comes back to bite them

 

lol..

City Central Computer: "Hey R2, you want some dirt on that imperial protocol droid? I heard ...."

R2: NO WAI! RLY?

 

Deactivating the hyperdrive vs. destroying the Falcon just shows another major illogical move on the part of the Empire.

Another shining example of Imperial wisdom:

Why not just blast the escape pod with "no life forms" in ANH?

Why? Because in either situation, the "logical" move would have thrown a wrench in the storytelling. No escape pod = no ANH lasting beyond 10 minutes.

No hyperdrive-lacking Falcon for R2 to "fix" = no big finale escape in ESB.

It's just the classic movie archetype of the bad guys doing stupid stuff so that the good guys get to eventually win. Doesn't have to make logical sense 'cause it's a movie.

 

kinda like world war 2, all wars are a collosal series of errors on both sides.

ususaly for no logical reason.

whoever adapts and adjusts best after their errors, among comparable forces, wins.

this is not nearly as contrived as your post makes it seem to me, though that may not be what you intended, i read it that way.

 

Yes the "good wins because evil is dumb scenario" I love it!

 

Exactly. That was the point I was going for in my last post here. "Dumb evil vs. smart/lucky good" is a plot device used throughout film history. Obi-Wan's "Only Imperial Stormtroopers are so precise" line is actually kinda comedic, if you think about it.

With the exception of Vader (and to an extent the Emperor), the rest of the Imperial military is staffed with mostly morons. The major players have their wits about them, but that's just because they play a deeper role in the overall story. The rest of the "baddies" are just there to pose an on-screen threat (which they eventually screw up one way or another) to our heroes.

Why does Vader keep Force-strangling officers? He's fed up with all these idiots, that's why.

Certainly wasn't my intention to compare this plot device with the real-life events of WWII-or any war. That would belittle the seriousness of those real events.

 

so the storm troopers are the Key Stone Cops of the GFFA?

 

To an extent, yes.

 

Vader probably just told his men to deactivate the hyperdrive because he didn't think they would be able to fix it. He didn't know R2D2 was with them. An really, R2 saved the day.

 

hahaha, in light of the PT if he had known R2 was with them it's likely he'd have been more obsessed with capturing the galaxy's most useful droid than Luke.

Come to think of it, there is no reason to recognize either droid but if Vader had seen them together and not recognized them that would be a massive plot hole. Thankfully at no point did he see them.