did anakin steal C3p0 from the lars?

if 3p0 couldnt go with anakin in TPM, then why can he in AOTC, when he actually belongs to a different person?

discuss...

 

Well in TPM the Jedi (and Anakin) are not allowed to have personal droids. And besides he served his mother in a better way. When they returned perhaps Anakin realized that he could serve Padme (and to remember him by) in a more resourceful way with her senatorial duties with delegates and ambassadors who spoke different languages.

 

I've always wondered what would've happened had Threepio stayed on the farm. Who knows, maybe having him there would help increase productivity, thus allowing Luke to go to the Imperial Academy 18 years later.

 

And, he wouldn't have been caught up in the rebellion, and helped Luke many times during the trilogy, resulting in Luke, Han, and Leia's death.

Maybe Chewbacca and R2 also.

-KNick

 

Well Anakin built 3P0, so he never really "stole" him in the first place.

 

anakin owned him, then shmi owned him, then when she married cleig, they both owned him, then when she died, the lars owned him.

besides, when something belongs to someone and you just take it, its stealing. it dosent matter if you buit it 10 years earlier.

thats like a factory worker comming into your house and wanting his jar of tuna back.

 

In the novelization, Owen gives C3PO back to Anakin:

"Well, Padme," Owen said, and when she turned to regard him, Padme saw that he was grinning widely. "I'm returning this droid to Anakin. I know that's what my mom would want."

 

Yeah, that's one of those SW moments that's best left unsolved, Anakin and Padme just take off with C3PO lol. Well it was Anakin's and his Mom was the rightful owner and since she's not around anymore and he is, might as well take it, but they should have had a little scene where Owen says, take the droid or something. C3PO might get his memory erased before ANH, because when R2D2 and C3PO are walking around Tatoonie in ANH. C3PO has no idea where they are and doesn't even remember the Homestead. I wonder if R2D2 does though and that's one of the reasons he acts so funny.

 

When Anakin leaves in TPM, he doesn't give 3PO to his mom, he simply entrusts the droid to her for safekeeping. Note that Anakin says "I'll make sure Mom doesn't sell you or anything" -- in other words, Shmi was not the true owner of 3PO because if she was, she would have the right to sell him. She merely has "custody" of him, in legal terms.

When Shmi died, the responsibility she had with 3PO transferred to Cliegg Lars - again, not ownership but merely custody. Then, when Anakin returns, he is able to take custody of 3PO back from Lars, because he remains the owner.

 

Plus, does anybody really think that Owen would have missed him? Would YOU have missed him???






Mace Windy,
too windy for spoilers!

 

point taken.

 

Actually, I love C-3P0, but I figured that would work.




Mace Windy,
too windy for spoilers!

 

"Well, Padme," Owen said, and when she turned to regard him, Padme saw that he was grinning widely. "I'm returning this droid to Anakin. I know that's what my mom would want."

But if Clieg owned him what right did Owen have to give him away?

Absolutely none and Anakin knew that.

Anakin and Owen are both guilty of theft.

 

But if Clieg owned him what right did Owen have to give him away?

Absolutely none and Anakin knew that.

Anakin and Owen are both guilty of theft.

Nope, Cliegg didn't own him. Look at the quote again. "I'm returning this droid to Anakin..."

C-3PO was like a borrowed lawn mower. Sure, many years had passed, but he still belonged to Anakin nonetheless. Anakin was well within his rights to take him back.

The question of whether Owen was within his rights is irrelevant. We don't know what Tatooine law says about inheritance, or whether Shmi had a will. Perhaps she made it known that Owen, not Cliegg, would inherit her custody of 3PO after her death.

It doesn't matter, because Anakin was the owner of 3PO despite his absence, and he had the right to take him back whenever he wanted, with or without the Lars' consent.

 

C-3PO was like a borrowed lawn mower.

With having read many months ago in discussions about Owen's lack of remembering the droids in ANH the comparison of droids being like toasters to us, I find this lawn-mower comment amusing. It does seem that for most people in the GFFA, droids are little more than common appliances to be used and tossed aside when one wants a new one.

 

Maybe this explains why Owen wanted to put a restraint on the droids in ANH!!! Anakin stole 3PO in AOTC, and a bitter Owen never forgave him, and thus, after being victimized once before, he wasn't about to be taken as a chump a second time!!

Seriously, though, I've always wondered that, too. Did they ever say their good-byes? It seemed a bit awkward, as if they just up and left.

 

No reason to say goodbye, they barely knew each other, ut I think there's a pictiure of Cliegg, Owen and Beru watching them take off...

 

Why would Anakin take their droid. It belongs to the Lars? They need help with the harvest and work around the house. Anakin doesn't need him. He knows that he's going to probably have to fight. Why bring 3PO? He can't help.

I guess it's just a way to get him into the story more and set him up for the OT.

 

Yeah, you gotta understand what world Owen lives in, a droid is a droid, some people just use them to work, they don't pay too much a attention to them. A gold droid like C3PO is common thing around the galazy, plus Jawas sell used, stolen repaird droids, some made from scrap parts. So of course Owen didn't recognize him.

 

Why bring 3PO? He can't help

Maybe because he can translate. Padme asked r2, "what are you doing here?" 3PO served as an interpreter "he says he carrying a message, from an Obi Wan Kenobi..."

 

Of all the dastardly things Anakin has done throughout his life, stealing 3PO will always remain at the top of the list.

 

No C3po belonged to Anakin in the first place thus he did not steal him............

 

Exactly. When Anakin was freed in TPM he left C3PO with Shmi. Then when Shmi died, Owen returned the droid to Anakin. 3PO never actually belonged to Owen or Cliegg.

 

The Lars will be real angry with Owen when they found out that he helped Ani steal 3P0. The Lars Family had a meeting and they decided that Shimi was a waste of space. So they decided to get rid of her so they could keep the droid. So while poor Shimi was picking her mushrooms, Beru (dressed as a sand person) Smacked Shimi over the head. Then Beru and Shimi went onto a speeder bike and Beru left the former slave in a sand dune where she would die. Meanwhile Lars Senior cuts off his leg to make his story seem true. The things people will do for a droid.

A few days later the sand people found shimi and decided she would make a nice meal.

So then the Lars toasted their success. They invited all the farmers over for a huge celebration/funeral where they secretly were celebrating for the new ownership of the droid.

Then Anakin comes and tries to screw it all up. So the Lars keep telling Ani not to go, that she is dead and he should leave. So Ani does not listen to them and goes off. Now the Lars are worried. What if he finds her body? So Beru secretly decides that they will hold Padme as a hostage if Ani gives them any trouble. By dumb luck it turns out that the sand people were holding Shimi so the Lars got off easy.

So then Owen tells Ani to take the droid. Thus Owen made the whole messed the plan up.
Its a good thing Ani left when he did because when Beru saw R2 they thought about killing Ani/Padme for the droid.

-Seldon

 

Cliegg and his family let Anakin take the droid as he was the rightful owner of C3PO. The droid was left to help Shmi and once she was killed, techncially it belonged to Anakin, and thats why The Lars let him have him.