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Did Boba Fett die?

Discussion in 'Classic Trilogy' started by Sithman, May 20, 2001.

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Did Boba Fett die?

Poll closed Mar 22, 2012.
  1. Yes

    51.7%
  2. No

    48.3%
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  1. Lanky

    Lanky Jedi Padawan star 4

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    Yes.












    On Sernpidal... [face_mischief]
     
  2. jedi_master_ousley

    jedi_master_ousley Force Ghost star 8

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    Just wondering, where did that rumor start? I hadn't heard it until in this thread...
     
  3. Krash

    Krash RSA Emeritus star 5 VIP - Former Mod/RSA

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    As this kind of discussion always seems to be overshadowed by the "EU cannon or not cannon" debate, I'll merely say what I think; and leave it to be listened to or possibly ignored...depending on your own "certain point of view"

    We saw Boba Fett fall into the Sarlacc's mouth in ROTJ, and for the purpose of the movie...we were given the impression that Han some small measure of justice for what Boba had done to him.

    However, over the years...fans have grown very fond of the idea of this bounty hunter being almost invincible. How many times, in all the TV series/books/comics in the world...does a bad guy (believed to be dead) return seeking his revenge? How many times did Murdock return to exact his revenge on McGyver? The answer is, as many times as possible...as long as the fans want to see that villian. In any kind of story, the hero's bravery can only be measured by the amount of bad in the "bad guy"...if Boba Fett went out like a punk (in ROTJ) then Han is only as good as a blind squirrle (no pun intended) at finding a nut!

    Boba Fett LIVES...because we want him to come back and challenge the good guys again!
     
  4. Darth-Stryphe

    Darth-Stryphe Former Mod and City Rep star 6 VIP - Former Mod/RSA

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    I've said it before, and I'll say it again.

    *burp!*
     
  5. The2ndQuest

    The2ndQuest Tri-Mod With a Mouth star 10 Staff Member Manager

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    >> Just wondering, where did that rumor start? I hadn't heard it until in this thread...<<

    It was started by a former mod of the Lit forum, where he proposed the theory that Boba Fett was actually the unnamed Mayor of a settlement on the planet where Chewbacca was killed in the first New Jedi Order novel, Vector Prime.

    The joke has endured these years to this day [face_batting]
     
  6. jedi_master_ousley

    jedi_master_ousley Force Ghost star 8

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    Very interesting. I guess it could be.... he just wouldn't be very "in character." I guess he went crazy in his old age, like the clones talked about in the Thrawn Trilogy. :p
     
  7. D_Lowe

    D_Lowe Jedi Knight star 6

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    It's still my issue that George Lucas says that as far as he is concerned, Boba Fett died in the Sarlacc. He didn't seem to fond of the idea that the EU brought him back. So with that, he is dead.
     
  8. Darth McClain

    Darth McClain Manager Emeritus star 6 VIP - Former Mod/RSA

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    Lucas is always changing his mind about things. Does that mean that at one time he could of disliked Fett returning to EU? Its possible. Does it mean that he always did/will? No.



    Btw, I voted No, he didn't die in the movies.
     
  9. jedi_master_ousley

    jedi_master_ousley Force Ghost star 8

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    One of the origional ideas was for Luke to be named "Anikin Starkiller" (notice the different spelling of Anakin, also), for Han to be a large fish-like creature with gills and no nose, and Leia was only supposed to have a very small part.

    So, can George change his mind? Yes, he can.
     
  10. D_Lowe

    D_Lowe Jedi Knight star 6

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    Direct from the Jedi Council.

    December 02, 2002
    Q:Did George Lucas intend for Boba Fett to die in the sarlacc, despite what others may say or print?
    A:Yes, in George's view -- as far as the films go -- the baddest bounty hunter in the Galaxy met his match in the Great Pit of Carkoon where --unfortunately for Mr. Fett -- the ghastly sarlacc made its home.

    That's pretty recent. Yes, Lucas can change his mind. But the only reason why he would actually have a purpose to change his mind is to make Episodes 7, 8, and 9. We know that isn't going to happen so there is no purpose to bring him back alive and therefore he will remain dead in Lucas' eyes.
     
  11. Esplin9466

    Esplin9466 Jedi Master star 4

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    >>How many times did Murdock return to exact his revenge on McGyver?<<

    Six. Well, six returns, that is. He actually "died" seven times. ;)
     
  12. Phantom-Iam

    Phantom-Iam Jedi Padawan star 4

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    Well according to GL he is and that is good enough for me.
     
  13. MeBeJedi

    MeBeJedi Force Ghost star 6

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    "A:Yes, in George's view -- as far as the films go"

    Seems to be stated as more of an opinion, rather than fact. It also leaves the impression that anything is possible once you go beyond where the films go!

    I love this from the website.

    Fett, Boba (movie)

    "With a sickly belch from the desert creature, it seemed as if Fett's career as the galaxy's most notorious bounty hunter was brought to an end."

    The movie only shows Fett going into the sarlacc. The belch proves nothing about his particular death (think of the times that you have regurgitated when you've burped?), and could have been from the previous aliens that were eaten.

    Fett, Boba (EU)

    "Fett's armor and body were extremely battered by his ordeal in the Sarlacc . When he plunged into the beast, he was kept alive by numerous fibrous suckers that attached themselves to his body. This was part of the Sarlacc's horrible metabolic process; it would keep its prey alive for thousands of years, all the while slowly feeding off it. Fett almost lost his identity in the swirling dementia brought about by the Sarlacc's toxins. His resolve held, and he used his weapons to blast free of the beast."

    Clearly, the "movie" entry allows for some wiggle room. If Pinnochio could survive in the whale (even without armor and grendades!), why can't Boba?

    Fact is, whether or not Lucas wanted Fett dead, he left the possibility of Fett surviving the sarlacc wide open. He may not agree that Boba survived, but he did allow Mr. Jeter to write about the possibility. If Lucas were so sternly against this possibility, then he would be treating it as he currently is the original OT DVD's, and simply not allow it to be. Clearly, Lucas does not mind this story existing, so his opinion is not as "extreme" as those who seem to be dead-set against EU.

    The sheer nature of being "killed" by the sarlacc is explained in the movie! You do not die when you immediately enter the sarlacc, and being inside the creature would have protected Fett from the explosion of Jabba's sail barge. Technically speaking, even if Boba never made it out of the sarlacc, he would still be alive long after all the other characters are dead because the sarlacc keeps you alive! I think the Anti-EU'ers have selectivly ignored that little fact when they say he's "dead". Hell, even Lucas is wrong by this reasoning, as his "view" goes against the facts of the movie itself. (Then again, he's also known for mispronouncing planet names and the such [face_laugh] ) Using George's "opinion" to validate your own simply isn't strong enough reasoning. If you don't like EU, then just say so. Claiming to be on Lucas' side of the argument is faulty reasoning, unless you yourself have met the man and discussed this subject with him.

    If you are stuck on the films, fine. So be it. Some people want more, and are capable of either imagining more than what the films offer, or are capable of understanding that there can be two (if not more) "imaginary timelines" in the Star Wars universe. Fett surviving is not an impossibility (especially when compared along the lines of hyperspace, lightsabers, gravity-well generators, The Force, etc.)

    This gave me an idea for another poll. How many Anti-EU'ers are Pro-SE'ers? How many people can't accept changes occuring outside the films, but apparently don't mind changes occuring within the films. How would these people reconcile the Han/Greedo scene? I always laugh at the "It's how Lucas originally wanted it" argument. I wonder if those people threw away their pre-SE versions, because that's not how Lucas originally wanted it. [face_laugh] .

    "But the only reason why he would actually have a purpose to change his mind is to make Episodes 7, 8, and 9."

    Then how do you explain the SE's? Surely, you don't i
     
  14. Darth-Vengence

    Darth-Vengence Jedi Padawan star 4

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    I think that George meant for Boba to die, but he was kinda resurrected by EU.

    I think that if George wants to please a lot of people, for the AE, he could add a scene right after Luke and the others fly away from the exploded skiff.

    They could show Boba crawl out of the pit, in kind of a Indiana Jones way with slime all over him, then he takes off his helmet and you see Tem Morrisons face!

    That would be awesome :D
     
  15. MeBeJedi

    MeBeJedi Force Ghost star 6

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    "but he was kinda resurrected by EU."

    kinda? He's alive and kicking (and killing) in it.

    "I think that if George wants to please a lot of people, for the AE, he could add a scene right after Luke and the others fly away from the exploded skiff. They could show Boba crawl out of the pit."

    Awesome? Debatable.

    Likely? No.
     
  16. RogueSith

    RogueSith Jedi Master star 3

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    I suppose this fixes the contradictions in Boba's origin -


    As the novelization of The Empire Strikes Back states, the last of the Mandalorian warriors were defeated by the Jedi during the Clone Wars, when Mace Windu slew Jango Fett at the Battle of Geonosis. But Boba survived. He returned to the Slave I, where he would find a last gift from his father: the green/gray armour of Jaster Mereel.


    But then they just set themselves up for more contradictions with the following -


    Boba Fett would have many adventures during the Clone Wars, on Bogden, Bespin, Aargau, and many other worlds. During the last days of the Clone Wars, he served with a group of Supercommandos from the planet Mandalore. They were brought into the Wars on Palpatine's side, against the Jedi. Only three Mandalorians survived, Boba Fett, Tobi Dala, and Fenn Shysa.


    Why did they do that? Do you really think the Supercommandos are going be in E-III?
     
  17. The2ndQuest

    The2ndQuest Tri-Mod With a Mouth star 10 Staff Member Manager

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    It's a reference to an issue from the Marvel comics. That issue was later referenced in the comic "Twins Engines of Destruction".

    They don't have to be in pisode 3, the events it refers could happen at any point near the end of the war.
     
  18. Swedish_Jedi

    Swedish_Jedi Jedi Padawan star 4

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    In EU he didn't die...Dengar (bountyhunter) saved him...l8r he met Zeck on some planet...
    (young jedi knights)
     
  19. NiktosRule

    NiktosRule Jedi Padawan star 4

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    Ah this thread is back again.

    Face it Boba Fett is dead. He fell in the sarlaac and got swallowed by it and then it burped. He is dead. He died face it. The movies show him dying never do they show him escaping from the sarlaac. Lucas let him come back in the EU for money. He did the same with the Emperor being a clone. Do you really think that Lucas thinks the Emperor is still alive or that the Empire survived after Endor. No he doesn't. He knows the Empire collapsed regardless of what the EU says. The EU is just for fans who want more than the films. It hardly over rules the movies.

    Boba Fett died. Face it. Also face the facts that he is an over rated character who is killed by a blind guy with a stick. Some tough warrior he is. Beaten by a stick. He is not invinicible and he is not alive.

    Case Closed.
     
  20. The2ndQuest

    The2ndQuest Tri-Mod With a Mouth star 10 Staff Member Manager

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    >>The movies show him dying<<

    Actually they don't- they show him falling into a big hole or swallowed whole by a toothless beak, in either scenario, into a creature that digests you for a thousand years.

    It's plausible a guy armed to the teeth could make it out- it's not like they showed a Nikto or some other mindless henchman escaping.


    >>He did the same with the Emperor being a clone.<<

    A story Lucas rather enjoyed, I might add (probably since the storyline bears resemblence to the once-planned sequel trilogy, thematically)

    >>Do you really think that Lucas thinks the Emperor is still alive<<

    Of course he doesn't- obviously he knows he died in Empire's End ;;D
     
  21. Ariana Lang

    Ariana Lang Jedi Youngling star 5

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    Yes! He died! He died, that was the whole point! Aaaaaah!

    :_(
     
  22. Batty4btman

    Batty4btman Jedi Youngling star 2

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    Listen People, the freggin Sarlaac burped, that means that BOba is no more.
     
  23. D_Lowe

    D_Lowe Jedi Knight star 6

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    Yes, the Sarlacc did its only burp when it swallowed its prey.
     
  24. NiktosRule

    NiktosRule Jedi Padawan star 4

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    Lucas knows the Emperor died in ROTJ not Empire's End The2ndQuest. Just because he may have enjoyed the clone Emperor stories doesn't mean he thinks he survived.

    ROTJ does show Fett dying because it shows the sarlaac eat him. None of the other guards who fall in are eaten like Fett is. They just fall in the hole. Fett is eaten and couldn't survive in the creatures stomach.

    He died, except it.
     
  25. Bib Fortuna Twi'lek

    Bib Fortuna Twi'lek Jedi Youngling star 10

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    As far as the movies are concerned, Fett is alive. The only thing the movie shows is Fett falling into the Sarlacc pit, where it takes a thousand years for one to get digested. Anything beyond that is unknown as far as the movies go.

    If you accept the movies only: Fett is alive, but in the belly of the Sarlacc.

    If you accept the EU: Fett got out of the Sarlacc, thanks to his weaponry and jet pack.

    In either case, he is most definitely alive.
     
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