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Did Padme look pregnant in the wedding scene?

Discussion in 'Archive: Attack of the Clones' started by Darth_Howell_III, Sep 17, 2002.

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  1. DarthBreezy

    DarthBreezy Chosen One star 6

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    Errrrrrrrrrr... I feel sorry for Nat Portman, just because she didn't have a perfectly super flat belly (PMS anyone? sheesh) it's assumed that the CHARACTER of Padme' is already knocked up....


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  2. The_Abstract

    The_Abstract Jedi Master star 4

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    NOT PREGNANT!



    [image=http://www.sgtfretsurfer.com/Grilled-Sarlacc/s/i/4076.jpg]
     
  3. Sbuck143

    Sbuck143 Jedi Youngling star 1

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    Having seen it in digital theaters 4 times, it is definitely noticable that her midsection is somewhat bulging. My friend and I debated over whether it was a pregnancy, or just the way her dress was falling. I tend to lean towards the dress theory, but just to throw some logs onto the fire....
    I find it interesting that people are trying to figure out "when" they could have consummated their relationship, when we already know of a Star Wars immaculate conception. It is highly highly unlikely, but within the realm of possibility that perhaps Anakin's deep obsessive attachment could have manifested in another immaculate conception?
     
  4. Oissan

    Oissan Chosen One star 7

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    I think her wedding dress makes her stomach bigger than it actually is.
    Portman already said that she will be pregnant in Episode III.
    You won't know for sure until Lucas said so, but it seems a bit early for pregnancy because Luke and Leia would be 2-3 years old in Episode III.
    There is no way that they will be that old.
     
  5. DarthBreezy

    DarthBreezy Chosen One star 6

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    And deny millions of fanboys visions of "jedi Nookie"??????????


    (Ok.... some fan girls too... *whew* Curse you GL for making DV a 'hottie' )LOLOLOLOL!!

    ;)
     
  6. annie_skywalker001

    annie_skywalker001 Jedi Master star 4

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    Maybe it was just the dress...
     
  7. Nai

    Nai Jedi Padawan star 4

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    For Padmé to be pregnant in AOTC, Episode 3 would have to take place roughly nine months later. Let's get some facts on the table:

    • "I haven't gone by the name Obi-Wan since, oh, before you were born." -Obi-Wan "Ben" Kenobi

      Now what can we infer from this? Well, I suppose the question comes up of what his reasons were for changing his name. I can't imagine he did it for purely arbitrary reasons. The most likely scenario is that he changed his name when he went into hiding. Therefore, the twins must be born after Anakin has fallen and Palpatine has declared himself Emperor.

      Before you play the "certain point of view" card, consider why Obi-Wan lied to Luke about his father. Clearly, it was to protect the young man. Lying about his name serves no purpose. I really don't think Obi-Wan is a chronic liar. He always has a reason.


    • "To protect you both from the Emperor, you were hidden from your father when you were born." -Obi-Wan Kenobi

      Again, we're given evidence that the twins were born after Anakin's fall and Palpatine's Imperial declaration. If you think Obi-Wan's lying again, then the question bears asking: Is anything Obi-Wan tells us the truth? Remember that he admitted his misrepresentation of the facts to Luke. Why would he, at the very same time, continue telling lies, knowing he'd likely never be able to reveal the truth?


    • As others have pointed out, it would take weeks for Padmé to start showing. When exactly would they consummate their relationship? It's unlikely they'd have the chance on Geonosis or Coruscant, so it would almost have to be on Naboo, or in transit. Let's assume the trip (from either Geonosis or Coruscant) only takes a few days. That still leaves a lot of time before Padmé would start showing. While on Naboo, why would they wait weeks to get married? The most probable scenario is that they were wed soon after their arrival.
     
  8. Darth_Howell_III

    Darth_Howell_III Jedi Padawan star 4

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    Excellent work as always, Nai.

    However -

    Why might they wait weeks...?

    1. They both suffered severe injuries in the Batle Of Geonosis.

    2. They had to talk themselves and each other into it - this is not a decision to be made lightly.

    3. If she is pregnant (the photo, to me, is inconclusive)... the relationship may have been consummated some time previously, perhaps by the firelight. Earthlings often "automatically" get married when the Stork makes an unscheduled visit.

     
  9. Nai

    Nai Jedi Padawan star 4

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    Good points, though personally I don't believe that's the case. By "the firelight," do you mean the fireplace scene in AOTC?

    EDIT: On second thought, I'm going to have to question your second point. It seems like their marriage was a rush decision rather than something they carefully thought through. I think the point was to really emphasize Anakin's impetuous nature, among other things. The argument can also be made that the idea that they were given a limited amount of time together punctuates the haste in their decision.
     
  10. DANA28

    DANA28 Jedi Padawan star 4

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    It's the dress in my opinion.
     
  11. PMT99

    PMT99 Jedi Grand Master star 4

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    There is no way in hell that Padme is pregnant already while she's marrying Anakin because they were just freshed out from the battle on Geonosis just as the Jedi survivors and the clonetroopers were.

    Anakin and Padme does not have the time to get in bed and have sex while they are still licking their wounds and are just getting married. Besides, Natalie has just said that her character will be pregnant by the next film while Rick McCallum stated that Luke and Leia will be born by the end of Episode 3 which means that Padme is not pregnant.
     
  12. jewlmc

    jewlmc Jedi Padawan star 4

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    This is silly. She's NOT pregnant for MANY reasons including the fact EP III takes place years after AOTC. Perhaps you are not familiar with the normal gestation period of a human but it only takes nine months. :p

    Oh yeah and it takes longer than a month for pregnancy to "show up" try about three..sometimes four..heck some women don't show till they are five or six. My friend didn't know she was pregnant till five months. She still got her montly visitor and didn't show. She actually found out when she felt something inside her belly moving and it freaked her out.

    But I digress...(Majorly)

    She isn't prengnat...the TWINS(yes they are TWINS to whoever says she is pregnant with just Leia) are born in EP III. This has been said by many people including Natalie Portman who said in an interview that (somthing along the lines of..) 'there will be no midriffs in EP II. I will be with child." (By the way just in case someone wants to nitpick "with child" doesn't mean necessarily just one. Nobody says "with Children.")

    I don't see what the big deal is here. Why do some of you WANT her to be pregnant? Just so you can imagine some hot sex scene during AOTC? Who cares? It's not like if it happened(it DIDN'T) that you will ever see it.

    And it's the design of the dress. It's lacy..NEVER slimming on a woman.

    Let's see YOUR washboard flat stomachs :p

    P.S. If you will notice by the picture..she isn't exactly standing straight. To me she is leaning slightly, that along with the dress giving the illusion of a bulging stomach. But not really...just to those that are looking for something.
     
  13. Darth_Howell_III

    Darth_Howell_III Jedi Padawan star 4

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    I wrote this yesterday, before the Portman pic was available... it is a post under a separate Episode III spoiler thread called HYPOTHESIS: George's master plan for the series.

    A possibility...

    Indeed, Portman did say that Padme "is going to be pregnant."

    However...

    In the same press release, both Samuel J. and Hayden C. state that GEORGE TOLD THEM ABSOLUTELY NOTHING ABOUT EPISODE III.

    Here is the link:

    http://cgi.theforce.net/theforce/tfn.cgi?storyID=16220

    I have been wondering... why did Natalie get some information, however general, from George, and two other prominent players got ABSOLUTELY NOTHING?

    George, at press time, proports to be extremely busy, between AOTC release duties, and simultaneously writing/preparing Episode III.

    If, indeed, George did recently take time out of his busy schedule to tell her this tidbit, she turned out to be not-too-trustworthy, blabbing it to the first person who would listen.

    Which got me thinking - and again, THIS IS ONLY A POSSIBILITY -

    Maybe, a few years ago, when casting Natalie for the role, George, back then, told her that Padme would be seen pregnant onscreen someday, and how did she feel about that?

    She may have gotten a kick (pun intended) out of the pregnancy idea.

    Now....

    Suppose.....

    George, with his penchant for secrecy....

    FILMED THE WEDDING SCENE AS NORMAL...

    THEN CG'D NATALIE'S BODY TO SUGGEST THIS (unconfirmed) BLOATED MIDRIFF.

    Notice the word "unconfirmed" before you respond!!!

    I ACKNOWLEDGE THAT PADME'S ALLEGED "BIG BELLY" is DISPUTED... and I HAVE NO FIRST-HAND OPINION TO OFFER ON THIS SUBJECT.

    At least two people on this website, however, believe that Padme looked pregnant in the wedding scene.

    I EAGERLY AWAIT THE DVD, AND I WILL POST MY HONEST ASSESSMENT OF THE SCENE WHEN I HAVE A CHANCE TO SCRUTINIZE THE SHOT.

    Back to business...

    Portman, as yet "unaware" that George would be pulling some sleight-of-hand with the wedding scene, THINKS THE "PADME-PREGNANT-ONSCREEN" ISSUE STILL HAS YET TO HAPPEN.

    By "process of elimination," Portman may have ASSUMED that the "pregnant onscreen" promise would be fulfilled in Episode III, because..... SHE DID NOT KNOW IT WAS (GOING TO BE) ADDRESSED AT THE END OF AOTC.

    Stay with me....

    Fooling the actors themselves - keeping them in the dark - is not unknown to George...!

    He gave David Prowse false dialogue in ESB - Prowse was just as surprised as the rest of us to find that Vader was Luke's father.

    Additionally, Mark Hamill did not KNOW Vader was Luke's father until the day of the shoot!

    If he did not tell Natalie that he was doctoring the shot (assuming that's what he did)... he was RIGHT to keep her in the dark about it...

    WHEN SHE SAID THAT PADME WOULD BE PREGNANT IN EPISODE III - SHE WAS BLABBING.

    Meditate on this...
     
  14. The_Abstract

    The_Abstract Jedi Master star 4

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    Some people have too much time on their hands.

    Stop chasing your tail around.

    It's getting you nowhere.

    :(

     
  15. Darth_Howell_III

    Darth_Howell_III Jedi Padawan star 4

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    Who's the more foolish, the fool, or the fool that follows him?
     
  16. jewlmc

    jewlmc Jedi Padawan star 4

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    The only thing I am going to meditate on is that some people can't accept the logical facts. And I'm not just talking about you but the other five people that seem to think she is pregnant.
     
  17. I-S-G_CRYNYD

    I-S-G_CRYNYD Jedi Youngling star 1

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    Greetings Gentlemen :

    There should not be any discussion about this. She´s clearly pregnant, there is NO DOUBT about that. It can be perfectly seen in the film. The camera focuses on Anakin´s new hand and then arises showing carefully how Padme approaches to Anakin while her dress accentuates her 4 weeks belly due to this movement (the camera is not showing that by accident).
    It is not speculation, it is a FACT that everybody can see.

    So, as she IS pregnant, we must wonder why is it possible?. And if we think a little bit, we can realize that it is completely possible:

    Count Dooku meets Darth Sidious.
    One day passes while the Jedi go back to Coruscant after finishing Geonosis battle.
    Obi-wan says that Anakin´s escorting Padme to Naboo, and Yoda says that the clone war has begun.
    After that, many days, and perhaps weeks have passed, because we can see nearly the whole clone army in Coruscant, and it must take a lot of time to bring it from Kamino.
    Anyway, the point is that Anakin has not to be marrying Padme during this first journey, he could had escorted her to Naboo, perhaps conceive Luke and Leia, and then returning to Coruscant. Some weeks later, Anakin goes back to Naboo for marry Padme, and that´s the scene we can see, where Padme is CLEARLY pregnant.

    Now, the divergence is what is gonna happend with Episode III. If as Rick McCallum said, it takes place 2 years after AOTC, Luke and Leia will have already been born, and then we will not see this important scene.


    Mitchusku.
     
  18. I-S-G_CRYNYD

    I-S-G_CRYNYD Jedi Youngling star 1

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    The_Abstract.

    Padme´s belly can even be seen in the pic you have posted. Look at the shadow beneath her white dress.

    GOOD JOB. SHE´S PREGNANT.
     
  19. Drac39

    Drac39 Chosen One star 6

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    Yeah she was Pregnant. Didn`t you guys know that?
     
  20. Daughter_of_Yubyub

    Daughter_of_Yubyub Jedi Grand Master star 6

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    Maybe Anakin and Padme have another child. Who knows how many siblings Luke and Leia have floating around GFFA somewhere. Guys, this is silly.
     
  21. Nai

    Nai Jedi Padawan star 4

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    See my post on the previous page. The twins aren't born until after Palpatine has declared himself Emperor.
     
  22. I-S-G_CRYNYD

    I-S-G_CRYNYD Jedi Youngling star 1

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    Nai, Palpatine has not to be THE EMPEROR when they are born. Ben Kenobi is refering to Palpatine as The Emperor because in ANH he is.
    They hide Luke and Leia because the war that was occuring in those times. And because they were a Jedi´s children, something that the Jedi Code forbids.

    Anyway, it doesn´t matter what Obi-wan said, you can trust everything he says. ;)
    And besides, Padme is clearly pregnant, accept that.
     
  23. Lord_Homer

    Lord_Homer Jedi Padawan star 4

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    maybe Natalie went on an eating spree and gained like 20 pounds................ :p

    she's not pregnant, IMHO
     
  24. J_Var33

    J_Var33 Jedi Youngling star 2

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    I knew it. Howell supports that Padme is pregnet in Episode II. He chewed my head off on the Episode III spoilers forum for saying he does.
     
  25. I-S-G_CRYNYD

    I-S-G_CRYNYD Jedi Youngling star 1

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    I have been wondering about this:

    Perhaps in Episode III we can´t see Leia. She has been sent to Alderaan before that, and know she´s protected by Bail Organa.
    The audience is tricked that way: The audience won´t learn that Padme had twins and will think that Luke is the only son that Anakin and Padme have.

    Then we can´t see Leia. We don´t know about her existence.

    Meanwhile, Luke has been sent to Tatooine, and now the family Lars is looking after him.
    We will not know anything more until ANH when Luke beggins to investigate about his past...
    Until ROTJ, when the audience find out that Leia is Luke´s sister.

    THEN, WE CAN´T SEE THEIR BIRTH BECAUSE LUCAS WANTS TO KEEP ROTJ´S SURPRISE FOR NEXT GENERATIONS.
     
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