Did the Jedi know Anakin was sleeping with a senator?

I don't think the Jedi knew he was sleeping with Padme.

 

i do think obi-wan knew in his heart. and not that jedi could sleep around that just seems utterly inappropriate.

 

I think Obi-Wan knew given that he went to Padme when Yoda told him to use his feelings to find where Vader had gone. As for Jedi being able to have sex, that is unfortunately G-canon. It's also implied by TPM when Qui-Gon asks Shmi who Anakin's father was.

 

implied but not ... shown. if they did have sex, they must have been remarkably lame and hypocritical creatures. or indeed compassion ranked so low in their list of priorities as to be practically negligible. else i lack words to describe the contempt i feel towards them. which is why i prefer to think they were celibates.

 

By what evidence? Seriously. What evidence was given that Obi-Wan knew that Anakin and Padme were married, before his visit to Padme's apartment near the end of ROTS? I haven't seen any. I am aware that Obi-Wan knew of Anakin's feelings toward Padme. And judging from Padme's reaction to an injured Anakin near the end of AOTC, it's quite clear to him (and Yoda) that Padme had deep affection toward Anakin.

But Obi-Wan knew of Anakin and Padme's marriage? When was that hinted to the audience? Or do some of the fans like to believe that Obi-Wan is close to being some all-knowing Jedi Master, even in his late 30s?

 

Obi-wan knows because he visited her before leaving for Utapau and told her to be there for Anakin. To see if she could help him, since he was having trouble.

 

I would just like to stress that there is a difference between Obi-Wan sensing that Anakin and Padme were "close" in the Biblical sense, and actually thinking they were officially married. I don't think ROTS shows us that he knew they were married or not, but it does show that Obi-Wan isn't as stupid as Anakin thinks, and knew that there was something between Anakin and Padme. I think stating that it proves he knew they were married is probably going too far, but it definitely shows he knew Anakin and Padme had a relationship. Of course, the ROTS Novelization confirms this, but going from the film alone, I think you can at least state Obi-Wan knew Anakin was sneaking off to enjoy some nookie with Padme. I am just not convinced there is enough there to assume he knew they got married.

 

No, he didn't know about the marriage. But he knew that they were more than just friends. He just didn't know how far it had gotten, until after Order 66.

 

As do I. I'm simply saying that for those who view the word of Lucas as gospel, the Jedi weren't celibate.

Whether or not Obi-Wan knew of their formal marriage is a mere technicality. The real point is he knew of their feelings for one another and that they were more than simply friends or acquaintances.

 

As other posters have said Obi-Wan thought that Anakin and Padma were more than just good friends. However he didn't know just how deep their feelings went and was not aware of the fact that they were married . As for the rest of the Jedi they had little or no idea that either of them were more than just good friends

 

I think Yoda knew, but didn't want to make an issue out of it. In the scene in RotS in which Anakin goes to Yoda for counsel after dreaming of Padme's death, Yoda seems to know, but to want Anakin to volunteer the information. He also gives Anakin the best advice he has, but it is not what Anakin wants to hear.

Obi-Wan certainly knew, just as he knew Padme was pregnant. He had hoped to use Padme as a steadying influence on Anakin.

There is no indication the rest of the Council knew or suspected anything.

As for why Anakin would be permitted to continue an illicit relationship, well, he was a very powerful Jedi in a time in which the order needed all the talent it could get. So Yoda and Obi-Wan, blind to the threat posed by Palpatine, decided it could wait until a less troubled time, and work to separate the lovers in a more delicate fashion later.

 

You should try to look beyond your cultural assumptions about sexual relations. The point of the Jedi teachings is to not become selfishly attached to anything or anyone, not to use the Force for personal goals but for the good of society. A personal romantic entanglement will interfere with that. It did.

 

That is not proof that Obi-Wan knows of their marriage. That only tells me that he knew that Anakin and Padme had deep affection for one another. Again, it sounds as if you're trying to make Obi-Wan to be some all-knowing and all-wise person, when he really wasn't.


I think Yoda knew, but didn't want to make an issue out of it. In the scene in RotS in which Anakin goes to Yoda for counsel after dreaming of Padme's death, Yoda seems to know, but to want Anakin to volunteer the information. He also gives Anakin the best advice he has, but it is not what Anakin wants to hear.


Near the end of AOTC, Yoda had witnessed Padme rushing toward an injured Anakin, oblivious of everyone else around her. Which tells me that he had become aware of Anakin and Padme's deep feelings for each other.

But there is no real proof that Obi-Wan and Yoda were aware of the marriage or Anakin being the father of Padme's child . . . until the end of ROTS.

I think that many of you are making assumptions, without having any real strong evidence to back your claims. Is this to perputrate some belief that Obi-Wan and Yoda - the only two Jedi from the OT - were some near perfect beings who knew everything? Or what?


Whether or not Obi-Wan knew of their formal marriage is a mere technicality. The real point is he knew of their feelings for one another and that they were more than simply friends or acquaintances.


I am well aware of that. But that is not proof that he knew about their marriage.

 

I am well aware of that. But that is not proof that he knew about their marriage.

I wasn't talking about their marriage when I said that I thought Obi-Wan knew.

 

obviously it's my cultural bias that makes me see intimacy and romance in a close relationship. obviously i'm unable to see the evil and distraction it can serve as.

thank you for pointing this out.

 

What?! Anakin's gay? Surely not!

 

No, no.

It is fine for the Jedi to fornicate as long as they do not develop attachment.

Anakin?s mistake was letting his own nature dominate him.

I find it very silly that the Jedi are not supposed to breed however.

If they are to rise above base emotions, how better to do it than by process of evolution?

It would have to be taught of course, and would take an enormous amount of time, but it would work.

 

I didn't say marriage. I said he knew of their relationship. He just didn't know how far it went.

 

Yeah, there is huge difference between figuring out your friend has a friend with benefits, and secretly running off to Vegas to get married...Did Obi-Wan know that Anakin and Padme were probably having sex? More than likely. But that doesn't mean he knew that they got married.

 

Did Obi-Wan know that Anakin and Padme were probably having sex? More than likely. But that doesn't mean he knew that they got married.


I think that you're projecting your own views about sexuality in this topic. None of us knew whether Obi-Wan was aware of Anakin and Padme having sex any more than we know if he was aware of their marriage. All the movie has shown was Obi-Wan's awareness of Anakin and Padme's close friendship, along with his awareness that they had close feelings for one another.

 

Obi Wan's known from II its not friendship Anakin's interested in. "I'd much rather dream about Padme, she's intoxicating, etc.". That ain't no friendship talk.

 

The novelization for ROTS flat out states that Obi-Wan knew there was something more than a friendship between Padme and Anakin. But, even completely ignoring the novelization, its simply common sense. Either we accept that Obi-Wan Kenobi is smart enough to figure out that his best friend in the whole galaxy is getting some, or we accept that he is one of the stupidest people in the galaxy. I choose to believe the former. When your best friend, who you are close enough to consider your brother, is getting laid, despite their trying to disguise it, most people have enough sense of intuition to figure it out. He already knows that Anakin is madly in love with Padme, this is established pretty clearly in AOTC. Then, we have the arena on Geonosis. Anakin and Kenobi are close, and given that they were only at best, 60 yards away from each other, Kenobi would have been able to sense Anakin at the gate, when he kisses Padme. Its also possible that Obi-Wan actually could see into the gate, and saw the kiss with his eyes. But even if he didn't see it, Anakin's emotional state would be obvious to any Jedi around, and Obi-Wan's closeness to Anakin would make that state even more obvious to him. Then, when Obi-Wan and Anakin are in-between assignments during the Clone Wars, and stationed on Coruscant, don't you think Obi-Wan might notice if Anakin doesn't spend his nights at the Temple? Don't you think he would be smart enough to perhaps trace the hovercar Anakin takes back to Padme's apartment? C'mon. Give the guy some credit. He knew Anakin and Padme were sleeping together, he just didn't inform the Council, because he didn't think it was hurting anything.

 

I think even if the council knew at least Yoda and Ki Adi Mundi would have realized that it would be wisest to allow him to continue with the Jedi Order and live on with things the way they were. I approved of what they (Anakin and Padme) did. I think if he was forced to divorce or leave the Jedi Order, he would turn to the dark side much faster. Allowing him to be married never had any threats to anyone if Anakin would only have used his brain and lisnted to what Mace told him to do "Wait in the council chamber". The ONE thing that I believe sent him over the edge was premonitions of her death. I also believe he saw her dying because he had turned to the dark side while she was one who basked in the light, and she basically gave up after Mustafar because he had turned to the DS. The premonition would have never happened if he had allowed Mace to kill Sidious, which also does follow the Jedi Code.

 

This issue could very well be the Jedi version of "Don't ask, don't tell". As long as Anakin didn't tell them, they weren't going to ask about it...

 

The Council doesn't mind if he wants to "sow his wild oats" with Padme. What they do mind is everything else that Anakin has done. That's where the problem lies and what will be his undoing.