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The Mandalorian Din Grogu [Baby Yoda] (Spoilers)

Discussion in 'Star Wars TV- Current and Future Shows' started by Jedi Knight Fett, Nov 12, 2019.

  1. Avnar

    Avnar Force Ghost star 4

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    Yeah @Krueger , way to wreck Christmas!! :D
     
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  2. Krueger

    Krueger Chosen One star 5

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    Ah crap, sorry! I can't edit it now!
     
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  3. Todd the Jedi

    Todd the Jedi Mod & Bewildered Conductor of SWTV Lit &Collecting star 7 Staff Member Manager

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    As the thread does specify major spoilers I'll let it slide, but do better to keep MSW leaks like that tagged from now on, @Krueger.
     
  4. Jedi Knight Fett

    Jedi Knight Fett Chosen One star 10

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    I just added that because I made this like the day the show first aired but now that literally everyone and their mother knows about it I don’t think it’s needed so if you want to you can remove the Major spoiler in the title.
     
  5. Todd the Jedi

    Todd the Jedi Mod & Bewildered Conductor of SWTV Lit &Collecting star 7 Staff Member Manager

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    Technically yes your title is referring to the existence of Baby Yoda, but within our spoiler rules technically anything else is fair game. Considering the nature of Baby Yoda's significance to the plot, the Major Spoilers tag can stay on this thread for the duration of the season.
     
  6. Darth_Accipiter

    Darth_Accipiter Force Ghost star 6

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  7. Bor Mullet

    Bor Mullet Force Ghost star 8

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    Like father like son.
     
  8. Meeko Ghintee

    Meeko Ghintee Jedi Master star 3

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    If the Asset is exactly 50, he was born before The Phantom Menace (which was 32 BBY or 44 years before the Mandalorian). Which would be before the batch of Jango clones were started by the Kaminoans (which at least in Legends was shortly after TPM because of the Bounty Hunter video game). To me this makes it less likely that he would be a clone because if he is a clone, who cloned him? Palpatine so many years before even doing the army? Is he just a normal Yoda-creature who they are trying to clone? If cloning force beings is a thing, why hasn't it been tried more? Why use Jango when you can have a slave army of force-wielders?
     
  9. Jedi Knight Fett

    Jedi Knight Fett Chosen One star 10

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    My guess is cloning force sensitives can be a bit iffy so they wanted him to try and perfect the way to do it.
     
  10. Bor Mullet

    Bor Mullet Force Ghost star 8

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    I’m guessing they’re more interested in the long life genes. Classic mythic story of the fountain of youth folly.
     
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  11. Darth_Accipiter

    Darth_Accipiter Force Ghost star 6

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    That could have relevance for Episode IX.
     
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  12. Bor Mullet

    Bor Mullet Force Ghost star 8

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    I have a feeling this will be the case. The timing of the Mandalorian, airing before TROS, except for the last episode, also tells me that they have a TV-film connection up their sleeves. The connected universe has begun, I think.
     
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  13. TheCloneWarsForever

    TheCloneWarsForever Force Ghost star 7

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    I think the timing of the Mandalorian has more to do with the timing of Disney+'s launch which is far bigger than Star Wars.

    I hope that Mandalorian/TROS connections are kept to a minimum, hopefully none at all.
     
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  14. Bor Mullet

    Bor Mullet Force Ghost star 8

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    That is true as well. But then, the timing of Disney+ right before TROS is interesting as well. And once that was settled, perhaps they decided to draw an interesting connection between the Mando and TROS to broaden the appeal of both? I have no idea, but it strikes me as plausible. Synergy, and all that.
     
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  15. Avnar

    Avnar Force Ghost star 4

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    So... Do you think The Mandalorian show just missed a huge opportunity to outdo GOT with the biggest shock of all time? - killing baby Yoda! :yoda: Imagine the balls it would take to sign off on that story beat! Wow.

    Now I love the him as much as the next fan... But imagine if the bounty hunter at the end of ep 4 actually killed the little dude. I think the emotional stakes of this show would have gone through the roof! GOT's was a show that everyone (well everyone I knew) would sit around and debrief about, and this would happen several times over the week after as you ran into other friends/family who had caught up etc etc etc. There was really good community engagement with theories and discussion.

    The Mandalorian is amazing. If I was backed into a corner and told to name some negatives, one of the only ones I would raise would be "emotional stakes" Do I actually think they will kill anyone of significance? Nah. Is it even that show? Does it even want to be? [face_dunno]

    The ST has really struggled with pulling the trigger, and every man and his dog has been in a coma or presumed dead at some point (Luke, Leia, Rose, Finn, Poe etc etc) and that gets really tired after a while... Don't get me started on bringing people back from the dead haha

    I don't think TPTB could have foreseen how popular baby Yoda was going to be, so the story is most likely complete at this point and what will be will be.

    To clarify
    - I adore the little dude and don't think in a million years Disney would allow him to be harmed, but please don't use to many of the fake outs...they lose their effect very quickly. I am torn... I would love to see him live happily ever after, but would be equally happy (mortified!) if he was killed which sent our main hero into revenge mode! :boba:

    Thoughts...?
     
  16. BigAl6ft6

    BigAl6ft6 Chosen One star 8

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    I will admit, a small part of me thought Baby Yoda might actually get Got in that moment, or maybe he'd Force freeze the blaster bolt ala Kylo Ren. The sound of the blaster shot was a great misdirect.

    I still wonder what they will do with Baby Yoda in a way to bring closure to their S1 arc (off to safety somewhere probably) but also I don't think when they made the show they expected Baby Yoda to blow up so much so they have to bring them back for Season 2.

    But I would be okay if the season ends just with Mando and Baby Yoda hitting the spaceways and that is totally what the show is about.
     
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  17. Avnar

    Avnar Force Ghost star 4

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    I didn't know where to place the above thoughts... Here? Character thread? Main thread? [face_dunno]

    As far as baby Yoda living I would like to see him delivered back to his people at the end of season 1 and then season 2 is a completely different story all together... Not because I am not invested, just less is more and all that...

    I love big stake drama within a show, so I would have been horrified and in awe at the same time if they killed him. Sorry everyone [face_nail_biting]
     
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  18. BigAl6ft6

    BigAl6ft6 Chosen One star 8

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    I would guess Baby Yoda will be delivered somewhere, happily ever after, then they retcon the hell out of the happy getaway ending it to get Baby Yoda back for Season 2.
     
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  19. Avnar

    Avnar Force Ghost star 4

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    You are probably right...
     
  20. Darth Smurf

    Darth Smurf Small, but Lethal star 6

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    That will happen in season 6 Ep 03 when baby Yoda is 89 at the green wedding
     
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  21. Alien Vanguard

    Alien Vanguard Jedi Master star 3

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    I agree with the minimum part. I hope they can tie things to the main epic saga but in more subtle ways. It's important for the larger cohesive story of the SW universe in my opinion. Doesn't have to be much, but something.
     
  22. Bor Mullet

    Bor Mullet Force Ghost star 8

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    The Mandalorian is confidently and gloriously its own thing. And that involves doubling down hardcore on genre tropes. If it tries to be like GoT, it will fail. And what would be the purpose of killing Baby Yoda? Shock value? To show the world is dangerous? Just doesn’t fit.
     
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  23. Master Jedi Fixxxer

    Master Jedi Fixxxer Force Ghost star 5

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    Why would killing Baby Yoda make it like GoT? It's not the first or last show that kills off a main asset (pun intended). We can go back to ancient greek tragedy more than 2500 years ago, and since then find literally thousands of examples as such in literature, art, theater, film and every other kind of art.

    If it served the story, I wouldn't criticize this decision honestly. The story can go in so many places right now, why limit the story potential just because people get sentimentally attached to a fictional character to the point where they would riot if anything happened to it?

    Having said that, I am not advocating in favor of that, since I wouldn't mind watching a 3 hour movie with Yoda Baby doing silly things and trolling everyone. In fact, they should just name the movie Yoda Baby.
     
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  24. Bor Mullet

    Bor Mullet Force Ghost star 8

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    I can imagine ways of making it work within the narrative, thematic and character construct of the series. But I was specifically responding to @Avnar ‘s suggestion for why it was a missed opportunity to do something more shocking than GoT.

    I say this as an ardent fan of the GoT series, by the way, including the final season.
     
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  25. IG_2000

    IG_2000 Force Ghost star 4

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    Baby Yoda is the new face of the Star Wars franchise, they won’t kill him off.

    they’ll fast track movies set hundreds of years after Rise of Skywalker with an adult Baby Yoda in his Jedi prime