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Do the clones in the Grand Army get pay or leave time?

Discussion in 'Literature' started by CaelumExternus, Oct 2, 2009.

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  1. CaelumExternus

    CaelumExternus Jedi Master star 2

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    I've been trying to find something which says whether they do or not but have been unsuccessful in this endeavor.
     
  2. Darth_Zandalor

    Darth_Zandalor Jedi Master star 4

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    no they don't. The only way out of the GA is in a body bag.
    Republic Commando series has more details.
     
  3. Robimus

    Robimus Jedi Grand Master star 5

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    We discussed this a few times before. Republic Commando establishes that they didn't get paid and shows Kal Skirata giving them money to go out and get icecream or something:p

    That said at some point after the creation of the Galactic Empire they must have gone on the payroll as I think the Imperial Source Book lays out for us. Somebody else probably has more solid answers than my brain can muster right now.
     
  4. CaelumExternus

    CaelumExternus Jedi Master star 2

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    That seems kind of backward. You'd think the Galactic Republic would be paying its clones, and the Galactic Empire would not.

    I had heard that at some point in the Clone Wars TV series some clones had made reference to either leave or pay, but have been unable to figure out which episode it is in, if true.
     
  5. Katana_Geldar

    Katana_Geldar Jedi Grand Master star 8

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    I would imagine that the GAR would give clones money if they needed it, but I guess this would be mainly officers. But I have long held the impression that a lot of clones were little more than slaves, which made some Jedi quiestion their use.
     
  6. DarthBoba

    DarthBoba Manager Emeritus star 9 VIP - Former Mod/RSA

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    Yeah, they get leave-RC established that. I don't think they get paid, though.

    If anything, the Empire was more likely to pay it's clones-we know they established "holiday worlds" for retiring stormtroopers from the Soldiers Of The Empire article; that obviously shows, IMO, that the Empire valued it's clones quite abit more than the Republic ever did.
     
  7. Darth_Culator

    Darth_Culator Jedi Grand Master star 2

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    Either they get paid, or the GAR issues colored contact lenses for free. o_O
     
  8. CloneUncleOwen

    CloneUncleOwen Jedi Master star 4

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    Slaves don't get paid.
     
  9. MercenaryAce

    MercenaryAce Chosen One star 6

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    RC mentions them not getting paid, but I think another book did mention them getting paid...I am not sure.

    They definitely got leave though. Even in RC you see it, and judging by the Clone Wars webcomic, they even have a little spa set up for the Clones.

    About the Empire paying the Clones and the Republic not: well, there are two things to keep in mind
    1) The Republic didn't even know about the Clone Army for the most part. They wouldn't have any system set up for paying the Clones. Not to mention they would need to raise taxes....if the Republic is half as ineffective as they say, then I wouldn't be surprised if it took them more than the entire length of the war to get a payment system working.

    2)Attitudes in the Republic changed. At first, everyone but the jedi just thought of them as droids made out of meat, but near the end of the war, they are respected as heroes in their own right.
     
  10. MaceWinducannotdie

    MaceWinducannotdie Jedi Padawan star 4

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    Didn't the Cestus Deception imply that the clones at least found time to go find companionship (not sure how non-euphemistic we're allowed to be on these boards)? It would seem to be that most companionship on shore leave would also be paid for.

    So maybe there's a special fund to take care of the clones'... physical needs?
     
  11. Darth_Zandalor

    Darth_Zandalor Jedi Master star 4

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    the only time they got leave was to act as a cover for a counter terrorist operation. It was only one legion that got time off, the 41st Elite.

    Though I do think that clones enjoyed the empire more. The 501st journal from Battlefront 2 seemed more optimistic during the Empire's reign than the republic missions.
     
  12. DarthBoba

    DarthBoba Manager Emeritus star 9 VIP - Former Mod/RSA

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    Sure, girl clones.

    "You'll be most impressed with our combat-education programs." :p
     
  13. Vrook_Lamar

    Vrook_Lamar Jedi Padawan star 4

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    Slaves don't need to be paid. Many slaves got paid in real life.
     
  14. QuentinGeorge

    QuentinGeorge Jedi Grand Master star 5

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    Forgive me if I dim the moral outrage by pointing out that the Jedi didn't get paid either.
     
  15. Darthbane2007

    Darthbane2007 Jedi Master star 4

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    Then how else did Qui-Gon get 20,000 Republic Dataries that he intended to give to watto in exchange for a hyperdrive?
     
  16. DarthBoba

    DarthBoba Manager Emeritus star 9 VIP - Former Mod/RSA

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    Discretionary funds provided by the Republic. Think 'government-issued credit card'. It's not the same as getting paid for services rendered, which is what a salary is.

    The big difference between the lack of salary for Jedi and the lack of salary for clones is that the Jedi are free to go without consequences if they so desire. The clones have no such option.
     
  17. Havac

    Havac Former Moderator star 7 VIP - Former Mod/RSA

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    They got paid with a lifetime of free eating at Biscuit Baron. TaggeCo is nothing if not patriotic.
     
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  18. MercenaryAce

    MercenaryAce Chosen One star 6

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    Well, in one of the Clone Wars webcomics, we do see some off duty clones getting waited on by girls in suggestive outfits (not really skimpy, but at least somewhat sexy)....but the Clones in that comic seemed to be more focused on getting back to the fight....although women in uniform frequently appear in Clone pin-up art.
     
  19. NelanisGhost

    NelanisGhost Jedi Youngling star 4

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    They're property, not employees. Slaves.
     
  20. CloneUncleOwen

    CloneUncleOwen Jedi Master star 4

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    Agreed. The day a clone is shown laying down his weapons and armor, and then
    telling his Jedi 'masters', "I'm not doing this anymore. I have free will and
    and am going to decide what to do with my own life," (and is not imprisoned as
    a 'traitor'), that will be the day I'll believe they're not slaves.
     
  21. QuentinGeorge

    QuentinGeorge Jedi Grand Master star 5

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    You're generally not allowed to desert in most armies, you know?
     
  22. RebelJoseWales

    RebelJoseWales Jedi Master star 3

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    You also generally either volunteer, or at least are a citizen of the nation at war who was conscripted.

    As for the Empire paying Stormtroopers while the Republic didn't pay clones, wasn't it established that the Stormtrooper Corps was composed of both clones and natural born soldiers? Those that were natural born wouldn't exactly be lining up to fight for free.
     
  23. CaelumExternus

    CaelumExternus Jedi Master star 2

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    Wasn't Kamino in the Galactic Republic?
     
  24. DarthBoba

    DarthBoba Manager Emeritus star 9 VIP - Former Mod/RSA

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  25. rumsmuggler

    rumsmuggler Chosen One star 7

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    Kamino was outside of the republic..
     
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