Do you see Anakin in the Vader suit?

After watching the orginal Trilogy, I imagine Anakin's face through the mask, I enjoy the whole Vader scenes more for some reason. I think ROTS did a good job in making you believe this.

Does anyone think it is best to remember the OT with Vader's identity in the face of Anakin Skywalker being left how it was?

 

I see Anakin underneath it all now. When I first watched ANH after ROTS, I was like "Oh my God, that's ANAKIN. Holy crap this is sad." LOL. But yeah, I imagine him in there speaking these lines, for sure. And to me, that is preferable to the whole mysterious Vader he was before. It adds a whole new poignancy to everything.

 

Yes--totally! Everything he says and does--I see Anakin. Especially when he says, Apology accepted, Captain Needa. And when he says he must obey his master.

 

I especially hear Anakin when he meets up with Obi-Wan and says (something like): "When we last met you were the master and I was but a learner. Now I am the master". I can sooooooooo hear arrogant Anakin saying that! LOL.

 

I did once, but then he found the hidden camera. I spent two years being "probed" in a Death Star detention cell for that.

 

Yes, i definately see anakin in the vader suit....

Now watching the OT, I see it all from a "different point of view"

Vader is now Anakin gone bad and in the suit, yes, we always knew it happened, but now we have seen it, and have seen the mask go on for the first time and hear the first breath in ROTS.

Every time Vader is on screen now, i re-interpret the scene, from a new POV....

For instance...
I always viewed ESB as Luke learning his father is alive and he is the most evil dude in the galaxy...

but now, it is "Vader learns he has a son" as well. the things that must be going through Vaders mind are equivalent if not more crazy than what luke is thinking...lies, deceipt, padme...?

and with the silent stares and head turns and gazes out the starship windows, you can now truly speculate as to what is going through Vaders head...

Vader is still Vader. but now he has so much more depth to the character.
I never thought i could like the OT more than i did, but ROTS, seeing anakin as a anakin and turning to vader, has done just that

 

Dude, Anikan is Anikan. Vader is Vader. Anikan is the good split personality, and Vader is the bad. Anikan is NOT Vader, and Vader is not anikan. Same body, yes. But different minds. Since the nanosecound Palpitine declared Anikan "You shall be known as, Darth Vader." Anikan was Vader, Period. And since the moment before ANIKAN threw Palpitine down that saft, he was redemed. Get my drift?

 

I'll never be able to buy Haydakin as Vader. Too many years have gone by since I first met Vader on screen and I have my own ideas of who is inside the suit.

 

AnAkIn not AnIkAn

 

Dude, Anikan is Anikan. Vader is Vader. Anikan is the good split personality, and Vader is the bad. Anikan is NOT Vader, and Vader is not anikan. Same body, yes. But different minds. Since the nanosecound Palpitine declared Anikan "You shall be known as, Darth Vader." Anikan was Vader, Period. And since the moment before ANIKAN threw Palpitine down that saft, he was redemed. Get my drift?

That's one way to look at Anakin/Vader, but that's not how I see it. In order for Anakin to ever reemerge in ROTJ there would have to have been some semblance of Anakin in Vader all along, the whole "Anakin and Vader are totally different personalities" theory just doesn't fly when you look at the various times when as Vader he thinks and acts like Anakin, and struggles with inner turmoil, that inner turmoil alone shows that some part of Anakin was always still present.

 

Anakin and Vader are one and the same in my opinion. The name is the only difference. Same body, same mind same intentions.

 

I think i'm in the minority here as I still see Darth Vader as DARTH VADER and Anakin Skywalker as ANAKIN SKYWALKER. Similar to Obi-wan's POV I consider them to be two completely different people.

 

I definitely see him inside the suit now.When he is angry or impatient I think it's just the good old Anakin coming through the cold Vader persona.I think of him as a(nearly)normal guy now.Unlike before when he was just a scary guy in a suit and I had no idea how he got that way.He is simply more human now,more tragic.

 

No, I do not see Anakin in the Vader suit. ROTS did a GREAT job of making me hate Anakin because of his cold-heartedness, and Vader isn't anywhere near as cold-hearted as Ani is. I also love Vader, so if I pictured Ani in that suit, I would hate him.

 

Never for me, just think of him as Darth Vasder ghuy with black head no Ani.

 

Yeah, actually I do sometimes imagine Anakin's face under the breathing mask. Especially with those silly red eyes in ANH. When I see those eyes I start waving at my TV going, "Hey, ANNIE, I seeeee yooooou! You used to say 'Yippee!'" and then I giggle mischeivously.

 

I don't know how to explain it, but I sorta do and I sorta don't. I usually don't see him when he's just being the boss because he never really was before. That's just how I see it. But I can really see Anakin at any moment in the movies in which he is either talking to or about Luke. I really see him as Anakin then.

 

Lucas did a great job having Anakin in the PT do the same small bits of body language that Vader did in the OT.

Example: In AOTC, watch how Anakin puts his hands on his hips in the Theed Palace scene. Eerily similar to Vader putting his hands on his hips in ANH aboard the blockade-runner.

Also: Anakin crossing his arms in TPM...Vader crossing his arms in ROTS.

...Little things like that make me see Annie under that mask; no problem.

 

I didn't catch all that much similar body language between Anakin and Vader. One thing that kinda bothered me was the different hand positioning for the Force choke. But I guess since it was the first time he'd ever done it (that we see on film, anyway), it'd take a while for Vader to get it down to an exact science.

 

I didn't catch all that much similar body language between Anakin and Vader. One thing that kinda bothered me was the different hand positioning for the Force choke. But I guess since it was the first time he'd ever done it (that we see on film, anyway), it'd take a while for Vader to get it down to an exact science.

I especially see Anakin's face under the mask in the scene on Endor between Luke and Vader. "It's... too late for me, son." Rough times.


EDIT: Dammit, I re-posted instead of editing. Sorry, dudes.

 

Yeah, now that I've seen ROTS I can picture Anakin inside the suit a lot better. I still think of him as Vader, but it brings a whole new perspective to every scene that he's in.

 

What's left of Anakin, yes.
Seeing him get put in the suit really helped as did the actual fall of the character.
Which is one big reason why I like Hayden's acting. If he was acting all Han Solo before the suit... why would he suddenly turn to Vader afterwards? It'd be a big character inconsistency.

 

I totally see Anakin in the Vader suit. I can picture those expressions from ROTS while he is in the suit. The exchange between him and Luke on Endor is more heart-wrenching.
VADER
The Emperor has been expecting you.
LUKE
I know, father.
VADER
So, you have accepted the truth.
LUKE
I've accepted the truth that you were once Anakin Skywalker, my father.
VADER (turning to face him)
That name no longer has any meaning for me.
LUKE
It is the name of your true self. You've only forgotten. I know there is good in you. The Emperor hasn't driven it from you fully. That is why you couldn't destroy me. That's why you won't bring me to your Emperor now.

Vader looks down from Luke to the lightsaber in his own black- gloved
hand. He seems to ponder Luke's words.

VADER (indicating lightsaber)
I see you have constructed a new lightsaber.

Vader ignites the lightsaber and holds it to examine its humming, brilliant blade.

VADER
Your skills are complete. Indeed, you are powerful, as the Emperor has foreseen.

They stand for a moment, the Vader extinguishes the lightsaber.

LUKE
Come with me.
VADER
Obi-Wan once thought as you do.

Luke steps close to Vader, then stops. Vader is still.

VADER
You don't know the power of the dark side. I must obey my master.
LUKE
I will not turn...and you'll be forced to kill me.
VADER
If that is your destiny.
LUKE
Search your feelings, father. You can't do this. I feel the conflict within you. Let go of your hate.
VADER
It is too late for me, son. The Emperor will show you the true nature of the Force. He is your master now.

Vader signals to some distant stormtroopers. He and Luke stand staring
at one another for a long moment.

LUKE
Then my father is truly dead.

That last line just rips the beating heart from your chest after ROTS! To think that a child you thought was never born said you are dead to him is so horrible, knowing what we know from ROTS. Ouch!!!

 

Indeed. Vader must have been ecstatic to know that he had a son AND a daughter. He thought he had only one child, and that it died with Padme. To learn that that child has accepted him as his father, and then to double-back and say that as he currently is, he is dead to his child. It's cold...and it certainly must get the gears turning in Vader's head, if not just send a stabbing pain right through his heart. Found his child, and lost him again...

 

That scene's one of the most powerful in the entire OT, only matched by the final duel between Vader and Luke.

I don't see Anakin in Vader in any scenes, except where he is with Luke. That's only consistent after all, since Anakin's love for Luke in the end redeemed him.