Do you support American Soldiers who trade Gore for Porn??

This issue is absent from the media for obvious reasons: To address it head on would mean acknowledging heinous acts by American Soldiers that makes the prisoner abuse case look like Disneyland.

Reading an artical in the EASTBAY EXPRESS is where I first learned of this sad practice among many American Soldiers. As it turns out, a few good Men are taking snap-shots of unbelievably grusome kills and trading the pictures for access on a certain Porn site. The Soldiers are seen gloating, smiling, and basically giving the thumbs up as they display chard, beheaded, and unidentifiable mutilated bodies. Our Soldiers are becoming the same Animals they fight against, and sadly enough, for free access to Porn? But I wish it were that simple. I don't know what kind of internet access the soldiers have in IRAQ, but I believe, no, I KNOW, you can see Porn FOR FREE on the internet- So the mutilating of already dead bodies isn't just for free Porn, but for some sick pleasure that shames the entire country.

The spineless coward who runs the website defends the Soldiers actions as you would expect. He placed a gory section on his sex site for the Soldiers pictures. He spewed out the predictable crap about how the War SHOULD be televised and that he doesn't feel any way about the horrific photos. He even tried to say that the Soldiers, before the pictures, may have seen a friend killed, or was almost killed themselves. Okay, that makes sense to a point. A guy sees his buddy killed and he kills the guy who killed his buddy. But what does that have to do with shooting up the enemy until they are unidentifiable, then smiling about it? A picture was posted of an innocent Women who was injured by a landmine, and the Soldier put some degrading caption on it. What part of War retaliation is making fun of an innocent Woman who just lost her leg? Even the younger guys are seen standing around smiling over chared and disfigured corpse. It's sickening. The news hasn't touched this and I doubt they will. I feel worried with living amongst people with a mentality that troubled. In April, I read in the newspaper about how the Soldiers made videos and put music to them. Videos of death and war. One guy brought home the video for his family and wife to watch (WTF?). And the author of the artical made no opinions either way about it- she just said the Soldeirs made War tapes and added music. I was wondering if the guys Wife and family actually sat down and watched this like it was a wedding video. Thats barbaric and very sad to hear.

I don't support these Troops one bit and it may not be their fault (The War itself may bring about this insanity), and this issue will remain silent I'm sure. Soon there will be Animals on both sides. I'm trying to figure out how a guy can expose someones gutts and still have the mentality for sexual arousal. America, we are shamed.

 

Too convoluted for me.

Try the senate.

 

No, I do not support American Soldiers who trade gore for porn.

I wouldn't mind seeing them blown to bits for what they're doing.

edit:

well, I wouldn't really want to see that since it's too frickin' nasty.


And I also thought this thread was referring to Al Gore.

 

That is so disgusting. You get free porn anywhere, it's not that hard to find. I hope that website is shutdown and the Soldiers learn that what their doing is wrong.

 

I though you were talking about Al Gores daughters being traded for Porn. After all he did create the internet.

 

I agree with you on the issue of the photos. That's just sick and wrong. I'm not one to say as I've looked at sites with questionable content, but I would never take such pictures and use them to get free porn. The guy who hosts the site is right though, this kind of thing needs to be publicised, if only to make peope aware of the horrific acts going on out there and put a stop to the war.

Showing the tape to the wife, I can understand it a little. It's probably the best way you can show someone else what it's like in such situations, it can be hard to explain what happened, having a tape can cut out a lot of awkwardness. Making music videos out of them is just wrong though.

 

good trade.

[image=http://archives.cnn.com/2000/US/01/10/aids.africa.01/al.gore.jpg] vs. [image=http://www.discountpheromones.com/images/Bikini%203.jpg]

 

Damn, people already got to the Al Gore joke. I was going to say "I'd trade Al Gore for porn."

 

I believe someone already said that.

 

Absolutely not. I'm not always one for morals, but that's absolutely ridiculous.

 

I hear you moose, and it does make one realize that when someone says "War is ugly" it's not just some cliche. It's really bad. My problem is more so with the glorification of the unspeakable images presented as some form of trophy. And I'm sure that guy can express to his wife what he's been through without a music video- and it didn't sound like the video was for educational purposes: He was bringing it home to the family and crackin open a case of beer.

I can't believe I even took a look, but I was curious and in total disbelief. But it was real. At least one Soldier expressed that one of the photos shown was not his doing. Somewhere in there, there is remorse and shame for the picture content itself... BUT HE STILL POSTED IT FOR FREE PORN!! The dead give away (no pun intended) that this is all fun and games is viewing a series of photos that clearly starts with a dead man and progresses into something I, or anyone, should never have to look at. It's the adult version of doing stuff to rabbits and cats but with people. Not that doing it to animals is much better.

I feel that they should pay for what they have done (the enemy), and in a lot of cases, I feel that region is filled with evil men that should not b allowed to live- however, I'm not interested in seeing my enemy mutilated and I sure wouldn't have the mind to smile and take pictures.

 

I had to be the first to make the joke, but Al Gore creating the internet is one of the biggest jokes that there is.

 

I wish I could say I'm suprised, but I am not.

 

On one hand, its pretty disgusting if you think about it.


But on the other hand, if I had some two-bit scum muslim extremists building IEDs and running away, capturing people to execute over the internet, I'd probably have no qualms about it.

Hell, I'd probably go postal and keep trophies. Pry out their molars and string them up on a chain or the like.

Depends on what kind of mood im in.

 

How much of this is propaganda?

Do you have multiple, credible sources?

 

Yeah, but they were taking pictures of innocent people. And multiple sources would be nice.

 

What you don't trust an "alternative newspaper" serving Berkly, Oakland, and the San Francisco Bay area

 

I do not.

 

Propaganda? Well, if the pictures were used to show the enemy that the US isn't playing, they would be made available to the enemy. Having them posted on a porn site doesn't really seem like the propaganda spot, you know? That's what the media and news are for: Propaganda. But this type of exposure isn't the type of image America wants to portray, so, it's on a make-shift porn site because the soldiers are actually trying to aquire a free membership. The exposure to the disgusting acts are almost secondary to this- its only exposed because the soldiers needed to show the photos to gain access. So, no: Propaganda would not be delivered through a janky wife porn site.

 

The article lead to the site which speaks for itself. If you want to go there and conclude that it's fabricated( ILM? )that's up to you. But far as questioning the credibility of the EASTBAY EXPRESS, that's really insignificant. The free periodocal would have to make the website, create the pictures, then make an artical amongst many to accomplish what? And the wording of the thread title is irrelevent too. I tittled it how I needed to. Didn't anticipate the Al Gore jokes, but hey.

I would simply give the name of the site but I don't want to support it. A few clever words in a search engine will lead you right to it.

 

The news source is too small to gain any loud recognition and the site itself is pretty much off the radar too. Is it highly unlikely, or unthinkable, that American Soldiers may be in IRAQ doing some questionable to heinous things? Trying to contest the source in this case sounds like one not wanted to hear what he or she is hearring. For this to be untrue, the Soldiers on the board would have to be imposters, and the photos would have to be faked. What would be the diobolical purpose of that? To blemish Americas image?- with an unknown Porn site? Puhlease. The Soldiers have posted pictures, made captions, and they are grizzly and for access to Porn. This would be the most feeble attempt with the best photoshopping i've ever seen to blemish Americas rep. Tell yourself whatver you need to. I'm just here for the feedback because I really wanted to know.

 

Is it highly unlikely, or unthinkable, that American Soldiers may be in IRAQ doing some questionable to heinous things?

No, of course not. But this may not illustrate anything of the sort.

See, the problem with the original Eastbay Exp. article is that they took the story at face value, without double checking the sources of the accusations. In other words, they saw what they wanted to see and printed it as such.

As this source indicates, the actual issue may be more complicated:

USC-OJR

The website owner who offered soldiers free access to porn in exchange for gory war photos was arrested on 300 obscenity-related charges in Florida.

The obscenity charges do not relate to the gory images, and the U.S. military has said that it hasn't been able to determine if soldiers actually sent in the photos since the images were posted anonymously on the site.

I asked Wilson why the site was hosted in the Netherlands. "Amsterdam is a little more laid back than the U.S. is with sexual content," he said. "Being based out of Amsterdam ... it's more or less a business move more than anything else.

As for the gory photos on NTFU and other websites, the military said it could not confirm the authenticity of the photos -- or that U.S. soldiers had posted them. Army spokesman Paul Boyce told me there wasn't enough evidence to pursue felony charges.

Now, that's not to say that the picture's couldn't have come from Iraq, but the exact origin of the pictures, and who sent them have not been conclusively identified.