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Does anyone else actually *like* the hairbrush scene?

Discussion in 'Archive: Revenge of the Sith' started by drg4, Aug 3, 2005.

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  1. darth-sinister

    darth-sinister Manager Emeritus star 10 VIP - Former Mod/RSA

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    It doesn't bother me. It was just done to set up how much they loved each other, so that Lucas can justify the reasoning behind Anakin's turn. That he's possessive and he's so willing in love that he's willing to do a lot of bad things, just to keep the one that he loves.
     
  2. ROTS_Obi1

    ROTS_Obi1 Jedi Master star 4

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    The scene itself isn't bad, but the dialogue...

    "No, it's because I'm so in lvoe with you".

    "So love has blinded you?"

    LOL..
     
  3. darth-sinister

    darth-sinister Manager Emeritus star 10 VIP - Former Mod/RSA

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    Yet it's true. Love blinded Anakin into thinking that he had to be all powerful. That it didn't matter what she wanted, Anakin was only interested in what he wanted.
     
  4. namnlos

    namnlos Jedi Youngling star 3

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    Hopeless romantics make the world go round, not cynics ;)
     
  5. bakednudel

    bakednudel Jedi Youngling

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    I like it.

    I liked it more after the very first time I saw it, though. I agree with all the good things said above; it's a very young couple in love, and it also has a lot of foreshadowing, like the love story on Naboo--Padme said their love would destroy them...and it did.

    What I *didn't* like was Padme's makeup and hair. Why she has that elaborate hairstyle, complete with tiara? barette? whatever that metal thing on the top of her head is...and then *wears it to sleep* !? That has driven me nuts forever.

    Then there is all the glittery eye makeup and lip gloss...again, that she wears to sleep.

    I don't mind makeup, I understand actors have to wear makeup, but this was obvious, going-out-for-the-evening glittery blue eyeshadow.

    It just bugged me to death. And I think I would have had more enjoyment of their precious moment together if Padme had looked a bit more like she had just gotten up from bed and a welcome home Anakin encounter...ya know? Subtle, not brazen, but looking a little more like a person woken up from a sound sleep by her husband's nightmare.
     
  6. DANA28

    DANA28 Jedi Padawan star 4

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    I definitely liked it more than some.[face_peace]
     
  7. Naberrie_SkyWalker

    Naberrie_SkyWalker Jedi Knight star 5

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    OBIWAN-JR posted on 8/4/05 11:45am
    [i][b]>>>>You must be a hopeless romantic.[/b][/i]

    Indeed I am, Dez. [face_happy]


    What I love about 'the hairbrush scene' is, even though we have the foreshadowing, it is very much just about Anakin, Padme, their child to be and their love for each other.

    It is a very real scene.

    It is stuff that you know you have heard yourself saying to your loved one; when you are in the first stages of falling for each other; or when you have been parted for some time. It's that simple love banter we all seem to share, but don't often talk about. And that is why Anakin's response of: [i]"No, it's because I'm SO in love with you."[/i] is so spot on.

    I tell you, my face had a tear rolling down it, and a big stupid grin was plastered all over it, in that scene.

    Beautiful.


    -JR [face_happy]
    [hr][/blockquote]

    more men should be like you Jr :: sigh::




    [i]What I *didn't* like was Padme's makeup and hair. Why she has that elaborate hairstyle, complete with tiara? barette? whatever that metal thing on the top of her head is...and then *wears it to sleep* !? That has driven me nuts forever.

    Then there is all the glittery eye makeup and lip gloss...again, that she wears to sleep.

    I don't mind makeup, I understand actors have to wear makeup, but this was obvious, going-out-for-the-evening glittery blue eyeshadow.[/i]

    well..she wanted to be pretty for her man..he had been gone for five months..I still think she looked wonderful... :D

     
  8. anakin_luver

    anakin_luver Jedi Knight star 5

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    I defintely didn't cry in that scene...but then again, i'm not a hopeless romantic ;)

    What I love about 'the hairbrush scene' is, even though we have the foreshadowing, it is very much just about Anakin, Padme, their child to be and their love for each other.

    What was it foreshadowing?
     
  9. Leias_love_slave

    Leias_love_slave Jedi Knight star 5

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    What was it foreshadowing?

    The hairbrush? That someone was about to get a spanking?
     
  10. anakin_luver

    anakin_luver Jedi Knight star 5

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  11. DarthPoojaNaberrie

    DarthPoojaNaberrie Jedi Master star 5

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    The Hairbrush Scene and Me

    It's been awhile since I've seen the movie now so I want to see how I'll react to it again.

    It took many viewings to force myself to get used to it and be able to sit there and watch and take it. And I'm not even one of those people who complain about prequels or dialogue and such. I had absolutely no problem with "I don't like sand.." or ANY of the AOTC love scenes dialogue.

    1. The first time I saw it the first thing I noticed was how weird she looked. It jumped out at me immediately and I was like, "what's wrong with her face?" She's never looked like that before or after.

    2. The dialogue. I was like, "what are they talking about?" What they were saying made no sense to me the first time I was watching it.

    The second time I watched the movie I confirmed my first impressions of these things, that she looked weird and that the dialogue was horrible. The third time I watched the movie, honestly, I looked down so I wouldn't have to see it and I cringed while I listened to it. (Ironically the horrible dialogue is about how beautiful she is when she looks stranger than ever before. Normally she is beautiful.)

    Later I read a review thing online talking about how they were supposed to be teasing each other and not making serious love professions and all the foreshadowing and that helped me stomach it the next time I watched it, as I was slowly getting used to the odd-looking Padme.

    By the last several times I watched it, up to the seventh time I could stand it OK.
     
  12. anakin_luver

    anakin_luver Jedi Knight star 5

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    2. The dialogue. I was like, "what are they talking about?" What they were saying made no sense to me the first time I was watching it.

    Yah, pretty much what you said. They were just teasing and enjoying themselves. They were alone, and they didn't have to hide their marriage and their love for each other.

    WHAT WAS IT FORESHADOWING!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
     
  13. DarthPoojaNaberrie

    DarthPoojaNaberrie Jedi Master star 5

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    I forget. [face_laugh]

    But this is the review I read that helped me stomach the hairbrush scene. It's a long one though

    http://www.starwarz.com/tbone/reviews/filmtv_rots.htm
     
  14. anakin_luver

    anakin_luver Jedi Knight star 5

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    You forgot what? :confused:

    Okay, is no one going to tell me what it foreshadowed?
     
  15. DarthPoojaNaberrie

    DarthPoojaNaberrie Jedi Master star 5

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    I forgot what was foreshadowed, but the link I gave explains what was foreshadowed. (I think.)
     
  16. DarthCryptus

    DarthCryptus Jedi Youngling star 1

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    Love actually does blind him because Anakin does everything becuase he loves and wants to save Padme'. It gets so bad he does whatever he needs to and goes so far he can't turn back it seems from all the evil he is doing.
     
  17. namnlos

    namnlos Jedi Youngling star 3

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    It foreshadows Anakin's path in RotS - the line "so love has blinded you?" is said as a playful bit of banter between the young lovers, but as the story progresses, it becomes the defining statement about Anakin's actions - he truly does become blinded by love, and in so doing, destroys the Old republic, and the very person he had promised to protect above all else - the woman who engendered the overwhelming love in him that led to his fall.
     
  18. jedi_master_ousley

    jedi_master_ousley Force Ghost star 8

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    Exactly. Anakin's love blinded him to the truth about Palpatine. He abaonded the Jedi and killed them for the power that Palpatine didn't even have.
     
  19. leelee

    leelee Jedi Youngling star 3

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    I really like the scene too. They talk like a young couple in love (most of us have talked that way I'm sure) and it is one of the few happy moments in the film (so it is definitely welcome IMO) Also, as has been mentioned already, its main purpose is to show that love has blinded both Anakin and Padme
     
  20. Jedi-Queen

    Jedi-Queen Jedi Padawan star 4

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    I don't mind it. I like the way he's starring at her at first,
    like he's consuming her with his eyes - symbolic of his
    obsession I think. I don't like how her face looks - like she
    just finished 20 mins of aerobics [sweaty/shiny].
     
  21. anakin_luver

    anakin_luver Jedi Knight star 5

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    Thank you.

    Wow. I didn't even notice her face...too busy looking at Anakin ;) [face_laugh]
    I'll have to pay attention to that next time. I just loved it because Anakin laughed, it was a great laugh too! [face_laugh]

     
  22. darth-sinister

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    "It's about a good boy who was loving and had exceptional powers, but how that eventually corrupted him and how he confused possessive love with compassionate love. That happens in Episode II: Regardless of how his mother died, Jedis are not supposed to take vengeance. And that's why they say he was too old to be a Jedi, because he made his emotional connections. His undoing is that he loveth too much."

    --George Lucas, Rolling Stone Magazine Interview; June 2005.


    "I have what I call two sharp "right turns" in the movie and they are very hard to deal with. For the audience, it's a real jerk, because you're going along and then somebody yanks you in a different direction. Anakin turning to the dark side and killing Mace is a very hard right, because we're dealing with things that aren't so obvious. The audience knows Anakin is going to turn to the dark side, but the things that he's struggling with are so subtle that it may be hard for people to understand why his obsession to hold onto Padme is so strong."

    "Showing how much Anakin and Padme care for each other is one of my weak points. Expressing that is hard to do. It's really hard in the end to express the idea, I'm so in love with you that I would do anything to save you; I'd give up everything -friends, my whole life- for you, and make that real-make that stick-and say it in two minutes. When I created it I knew I wanted two hard right turns-it's designed to be that way-and I knew I was taking a real chance that it wasn't going to work. But you have to see if you can make it work. If it doesn't work, well then I'm going to get skewered for it. But if I can make it work, it'll be neat. It'll be good"

    --George Lucas, The Making Of Revenge Of The Sith.


    Anakin loves too much and not the right way, because he forms attachments.
     
  23. SWJaggy

    SWJaggy Jedi Padawan star 4

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    I actually liked the hairbrush scene. I also award George Lucas for his romantic dialogue. I'm probably one of few people who actually did not think the romance dialogue was chessy. I was impressed by it actually. It gave sort of that old prarie style romance to it. Kind of like we were living in the past and that I enjoyed.
     
  24. anakin_luver

    anakin_luver Jedi Knight star 5

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    Well, I'm not about to award George on his romantic dialogue, but the lines were fine. Tehy even served a meaning [look at the foreshadowing conversation]. They were just TALKING! Like NORMAL human beings do on a DAILY BASIS! Come on people. They're married, let them talk!
     
  25. CountCuckoo

    CountCuckoo Jedi Padawan star 4

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    I didn't find anything wrong with this scene. I liked it.
     
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