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Does anyone else not accept Splinter of the Minds Eye as canon.

Discussion in 'Literature' started by looneyguy_01, Feb 7, 2002.

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  1. looneyguy_01

    looneyguy_01 Jedi Youngling star 1

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    I have heard the arguments from both sides. I perosnally can not accept this book. Vader is so unlike him self. Plus no other book has referred to this so that should tell you something.
     
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  2. tanjokabri

    tanjokabri Jedi Master star 4

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    although i reluctantly accept it as canon, i agree that it shouldn't be... luke is too powerful, and luke having faced vader before ESB just doesn't fit into the story, what with yoda going on about luke not being ready to confront vader and all...
     
  3. looneyguy_01

    looneyguy_01 Jedi Youngling star 1

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    Well, its been said that Obi wan is controlling Luke.
     
  4. ParanoidAni-droid

    ParanoidAni-droid Jedi Padawan star 4

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    You better get going Looneyguy_01 and Tanjokabri! I'll try to hold them off! But i don't know how long I can keep them at bay!! Go!! Save yourselves!!

    *gulp* tell Padme I love her!
     
  5. Mavrick889

    Mavrick889 Jedi Grand Master star 4

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    You'd be wrong in your assumption. It's as canon as everything. Lucasfilm's stance is that it's "all canon."
     
  6. ParanoidAni-droid

    ParanoidAni-droid Jedi Padawan star 4

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    "Back you Devils!!"
     
  7. ReaperFett

    ReaperFett Jedi Knight star 6

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    If I dont accept Splinter, I cant accept any but Movies. I accept Splinter :)
     
  8. looneyguy_01

    looneyguy_01 Jedi Youngling star 1

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    Why am I wrong? This book was made before The Empire STrikes Back.
     
  9. Mavrick889

    Mavrick889 Jedi Grand Master star 4

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    So? The Marvel comics were too, and they're canon as well. It doesn't matter if Vader's "off" slightly, the official POV is that it's canon, and it will continue to be referred to in all of the guide books.
     
  10. Wedge 88

    Wedge 88 Jedi Grand Master star 6

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    Completists beware. Looneyguy is refering to personal canon. Don't try to use the "Everything is canon cause they say so." line.

    I personally do accept it. It fits perfectly. The story is great. It has a pure Star Wars movie feel. Lucas wouldn't of been wrong to have considered it as a movie sequel to the original Star Wars.
     
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  11. Padme Bra

    Padme Bra Administrator Emeritus star 6 VIP - Former Mod/RSA

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    Well, you all know what I think. I do think it's a good story though.
     
  12. tanjokabri

    tanjokabri Jedi Master star 4

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    thanks for the help, ParanoidAni-droid! but i'm not running! i'm staying to fight!

    blaster charged? CHECK
    shields charged? CHECK
    will written? CHECK

    and into the battle:

    Splinter of the Mind's Eye should NOT be canon!

    goodbye... i shall miss these forums... remember me... :D
     
  13. Genghis12

    Genghis12 Manager Emeritus star 6 VIP - Former Mod/RSA

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    Wedge...
    He didn't make that clear in his post.

    Looneyguy...
    You're wrong because SotME isn't Infinities, therefore it is canon. The publication date with respect to Empire Strikes Back is irrelevent to whether something is canon or not.
     
  14. barnsthefatjedi

    barnsthefatjedi Jedi Knight star 5

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    I bet Bib Fortuna, Twilek accepts it.
     
  15. Bib Fortuna Twi'lek

    Bib Fortuna Twi'lek Jedi Youngling star 10

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    Personal views on canon are irrelevant. The only thing that matters is that LFL considers it canon.
     
  16. Wedge 88

    Wedge 88 Jedi Grand Master star 6

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    "Does anyone else not accept..."

    Thats a personal question.

    Bib, thats retarded. We wouldn't have discussions then. Everyone would walk around calmly stating the same facts over and over again. Like most of us do more and more often these days. Its boring. Its not right. Hence it isn't true. See, isn't this fun?
     
  17. Binary_Sunset

    Binary_Sunset Force Ghost star 5

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    Wedge 88 wrote: "I personally do accept it. It fits perfectly. The story is great. It has a pure Star Wars movie feel. Lucas wouldn't of been wrong to have considered it as a movie sequel to the original Star Wars."

    Agreed. Though I do have my problems with some aspects of SotME, I consider it to be the second best SW thing in existence. The first being, of course, the original 1977 Star Wars film.
     
  18. HeavyArms

    HeavyArms Jedi Youngling star 1

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    Why shouldn't it be considered canon? It's a good story and a good graphic novel.

    And so what if it was made before ESTB. A few of the comics were also made before it and they are considered canon.
     
  19. jed-eye

    jed-eye Jedi Youngling star 2

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    the new paperback version of Spinter has an introdution written by George Lucas himself. if that's not a sign that it's canon then i don't know what is.
     
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  20. Bib Fortuna Twi'lek

    Bib Fortuna Twi'lek Jedi Youngling star 10

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    Here's a sign it's canon: It doesn't have the Infinities label on it.
     
  21. Niralle

    Niralle Jedi Youngling star 3

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    In my personal opinion, I thought Splinter was a sad excuse to conclude A New Hope without considering the idea there could be sequels to it. I can't honestly say--wasn't in existance at that point in time--but the fact that everything in ESB that leads up to Luke and Vader fighting is completely contradicted in Splinter.

    Luke wasn't ready to take on his father after being trained by--probably--the most powerful Jedi Master of the Old Republic, and he survived in Splinter? Forget the magical gem of wonderment!

    And, let's not forget, that in all that time, Vader didn't even tell him he was his father! Now, THAT, was a missed opportunity right there, wasn't it? Oops--guess he forgot!

    If you liked Splinter, that's all fine and great. But, I can't consider it canon, partly because it's contradictive, but also because I, personally, didn't enjoy it. Bore and snore.

    Just my opinion. Take out your lightsabers and strike! :D
     
  22. Bib Fortuna Twi'lek

    Bib Fortuna Twi'lek Jedi Youngling star 10

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    Nothing in Splinter contradicts the movies in any way, shape or form.
     
  23. Niralle

    Niralle Jedi Youngling star 3

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    Okay. In that case, it just stinks, then. :p
     
  24. IAmTheDarkSide

    IAmTheDarkSide Jedi Padawan star 4

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    Zahn certainly didn't; he went right ahead and contradicted it.
     
  25. Bib Fortuna Twi'lek

    Bib Fortuna Twi'lek Jedi Youngling star 10

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    Um, how, exactly, did Zahn contradict it?
     
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