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Does Obi-Wan have a love affair with Padme?

Discussion in 'Archive: Attack of the Clones' started by vaderdarkestjedi, Apr 10, 2003.

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  1. Hananiah

    Hananiah Jedi Master star 4

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    Nooooooo! Oh God,must get away.

    Obi Wan sees Padme as his duty, Palpatine may manipulate that to make Anakin *think* something is going on Y'know like in Othello but it won't have any basis. Firstly Obi Wan belongs to Sabe and secondly and yes I know this contridicts my first point is that he won't go against the code which has been ingrained in him since he was small. Even if the institution was gone Obi Wan would still follow the code.
     
  2. tun_dot_com

    tun_dot_com Jedi Youngling star 2

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    The logic is flawed. It may have been alright before AOTC, but now that you HAVE seen it, it is impossible to even suggest Obidala having any form of merit. Poor Obi-Wan does not have a love interest, get over it.
     
  3. amien

    amien Jedi Youngling star 1

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    I find it difficult to come up with any TPM hints or possible future developments between these two. Padme and Obi-Wan, again, had very little screen time together and when they did, it was strictly professional. Padme showed more interest in Anakin, and vice versa, even if it was only a friendship.

    I never liked the idea of a love triangle between the three main characters. I feel that for these three, a love affair would lessen their dignity and character. I think Obi-Wan's relationship with Padme will play a role in Anakin's fall, but perhaps it'll be more like, "You kept her from me, turned her against me, etc"
     
  4. DarthSil

    DarthSil Jedi Padawan star 4

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    Exactly. Obi-Wan hasn't shown one ounce of interest in Padme'. So now you expect us to believe that in Episode III - BOOM - all of a sudden they fall madly in love? Uh, no. Never gonna happen.

    And if Lucas dares to pull something that contrived in EIII, I'll crack his skull. (Figuratively speaking, that is.) ;)

    And what's all this nonsense about Obi-Wan and Sabe' hooking up? Geez, you people have been reading way too much fan fic.
     
  5. anakin_girl

    anakin_girl Jedi Knight star 6

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    DarthSil: You and me both. (Actually, like I said, I'll just get up and walk out of the theater.)

    AERYN_SUN: While I see the logic behind your reasoning, I still don't think it would happen. For one thing, Obi-Wan wouldn't break the Code--even if there are no more Jedi. ("The Jedi Knights were once the guardians of peace and justice in the Old Republic. Before the Dark Times. Before the Empire.") He's a traditional Jedi to the end. For another thing, it would be demeaning to all the characters--to Obi-Wan because he'd be sleeping with his apprentice's wife, to Padme because she'd be sleeping with her husband's mentor, and to Anakin because he'd turn to the Dark Side over something as ridiculous as a broken love affair. It's way too daytime-soap-opera-ish for me, and not enough like the intellectually stimulating saga that Star Wars has become. I think Anakin's reasons for turning are way more complex than woman problems.

    As far as Obi-Wan and Sabe--I'm actually a fan there, and I put them in my own fanfic. But it won't happen outside fanfic. And neither will the other aspect of my fanfic--Anakin staying on the lightside. :(
     
  6. darthgetalife

    darthgetalife Jedi Youngling star 3

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    After reading all the posts may i ask what the heck does this have to do with AOTC ?
    If you think Anakin should turn because an affair between Obi1 and Padmé shoudn't you post in EpIII spoilers forum ?
     
  7. DamonD

    DamonD Manager Emeritus star 6 VIP - Former Mod/RSA

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    Ah, c'mon. There's no harm in Obidala writes, they're just taking characters and putting their own spin on them.

    No, but he has one with Jango.

    Do we have the world's only Obingo Shipper amongst us? :p
     
  8. Sophita

    Sophita Jedi Grand Master star 4

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    [face_blush] Uh, I would, uh, ship Obi-Wan/Jango (Obigo? Obingo? ...Hee, Obi'n'go!O-bingo! ....Sorry.), in a severely AU way.

    And that picture...Oh. My. God. *saves* That is just ...beyond words. Is it really sad I immediatly thought, "Anakin, does this make my butt look fat? Be truthful, now..."?

    Back to the topic at hand...No, I don't think Obi-Wan would ever consider having an affair with Padme. They seem to have a very professional relationship and from AotC I think it's the extent of it. I think to be true to Obi-Wan's character, he rather has to celibate; going out on one night stands just isn't Obi, and getting into forbidden relationships doesn't sound like something Obi-Wan would do either. He's a bit of a boy scout, so I don't really see him breaking the Jedi rules.

    I can't see Padme having interest in Obi-Wan, either, especially since she married Anakin. Loyalty seems to be one of her traits so I don't think that she would be too keen to just hop into bed with Obi. It really does her character a diservice; It makes her no better than a prostitute...("Oh, no, Anakin's gone...Who's next?")

    :/ If you haven't guessed by now I'm really not a fan. If Lucas does use the Ani/Padme/Obi love triangle in Episode 3 and has Padme and Obi as a couple, I will walk out of the theater.
     
  9. anakin_girl

    anakin_girl Jedi Knight star 6

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    *plans walkout with Sophita* :D
     
  10. Sophita

    Sophita Jedi Grand Master star 4

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    :D

    Glad to see I'm not alone. ^_^;
     
  11. dan005e

    dan005e Jedi Youngling star 2

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    Well I dont think an actual love affair develop but I could see Anakin being manipulated to think that Obi-Wan and Padme are having an affair to help fuel his turn to the darkside.

    Say Padme learns she is pregnant and that Anakin is becoming increasingly more violent, not at her but just generally having more and more of a short fuse. So she wants to keep the pregnancy a secret for now.

    Now she is talking with Obi about this and she gives him a hug just as Anakin walks in. Ani doesnt explode but does get angry. Padme doesnt want to tell Ani about the pregnancy and kinda skirts around the truth a bit. Anakin senses she is hiding something so that plants a seed of doubt in his mind. He reveals this to Palpatine during one of their "chats" and Palps acts on it creting false evidence to help nudge him towards the darkside.

    What I would like to see hapen in Ep III is Anakin is close to the darkside and Obi-Wan and Padme are the only people with a chance of turning Anakin to the light. Thus they are a threat to Palatines plan and must either be eliminated or discredited so that Anakin wont trust them until it is too late.

    Just my two cents.
     
  12. Jovieve

    Jovieve Jedi Padawan star 4

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    No.

    1) Obi-Wan is Jedi to the end.
    2) This is GL we're talking about here.
    3) Obi-Wan will likely be irritated/PO'd at Padme for marrying Anakin in the first place knowing it's not what Jedi are supposed to do.
    4) They will likely not have seen each other during the war at all.
    5) Padme's preggers. It takes a really special kind of man to come on to a woman who is pregnant with a good friend's children. Or for her to come on to him.

    Likely Padme will have fallen out of love with Anakin by III - the passion gone, but the closeness still there. She has to become close enough to Obi-Wan at some point to give him one of her children, so I can see them becoming friends - maybe bonding in concern for Anakin's downspiraling behavior - maybe - and Palpatine manipulating Anakin to think something's up between them.

    No affair even though Obi-Wan and Padme have more in common than Padme and Anakin, but Obi-Wan would have never caved.


    P.S.

    That pic of Ewan was from "Velvet Goldmine". Mrowr!! NICE movie for Ewan fans. :cool:
     
  13. Oakessteve

    Oakessteve Manager Emeritus star 6 VIP - Former Mod/RSA

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    Ahem! Not for male Ewan fans :p. Well, not for some male Ewan fans, in that case!
     
  14. DarthBreezy

    DarthBreezy Chosen One star 6

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    She'll love him until the bitter end... If she truely wanted to disassociate the cildren from their father, Luke would not have gone to the Lars's and he wouldn't be a Skywalker...

    Next "the Childern are concieved out of a fit of angery passion (Ie rape but GL won't call it that") crowd will start chiming in...

    *sigh*


     
  15. anakin_girl

    anakin_girl Jedi Knight star 6

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    DB: God, I hope not...if they do, make sure I don't post...I'm afraid my response would get me banned. :eek:

    I've heard the rumors...or wishes of some fans who really hate Anakin, should I say...but I've never heard anything so outlandish in my life. It's the same crowd that says Padme didn't really love Anakin. (And she married him because... ?[face_plain] )

    You're right. Padme loves Anakin to the bitter end. In fact, I don't think she knows he turns into Vader. I envision a Romeo-and-Juliet type scenario in which both of them think the other is dead.
     
  16. Rebel Scumb

    Rebel Scumb Jedi Knight star 6

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    Obi-wan and Padme barely qualify as friends, they have maybe 5 lines of dialogue with each other in both TPM and AOTC.

    Besides I've always felt that it wasn't girls that Obi-wan is into, though thats a whole other can of worms.
     
  17. Old Juan

    Old Juan Jedi Master star 4

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    That will never happen. Though it is true that the initial TPM draft had Padme "crushing" for Obi-Wan. This idea in it's literal form has been dropped altogether. The closest we'll get as others have stated is the Othello situation where Palpatine convinces Anakin that there is something going on..even though the audience knows better. To have Obi-Wan and Amidala do such a thing would destroy the core of their characters. Plus it would definately shift the blame of Anakin's fall off his shoulders, that would not be good. This would take away meaning from the key climax in RoTJ.

    I will say this, Obi-Wan and Amidala's relationship will have to be expanded on if we're to buy her giving up one of her children to him.
     
  18. anakin_girl

    anakin_girl Jedi Knight star 6

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    I agree with everything else you say, Old Juan, and this to a point, but...

    I will say this, Obi-Wan and Amidala's relationship will have to be expanded on if we're to buy her giving up one of her children to him.

    I don't know that it would have to be expanded upon much, as Padme already trusts Obi-Wan. She isn't really giving up one of her children to him--she's giving him up to Owen and Beru Lars. She's entrusting Obi-Wan to transport Luke there...but that doesn't seem like something she wouldn't already do in AOTC. But that's just me.
     
  19. Old Juan

    Old Juan Jedi Master star 4

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    I don't think so. Their relationship as it stands right now is professional. Anakin's defection to the darkside and the
    empire, not only puts Obi-Wan in doubt about himself, but it would put him in question with Padme as well..at least on some level. The reason I say this is do to the remarks that Anakin makes to Padme about him. Padme is going to want answers, why did Anakin turn to the darkside? She will consider what Anakin said as a possible motivation. Since she will love him(Anakin)unconditionally, she is not going want to believe that Anakin's turn was of his own making. She is going to want to lay the blame on someone else. Besides the obvious choice of Palpatine which I don't think she'll ever know he had a hand in it, there's only one suspect(Obi-Wan)left. Is she going to want to give one of her kids to a man who may have some culpability in her husbands change? If their relationship doesn't progress beyond "businesslike" and into a friendship, because as far as I'm concerned with what we've been given in TPM and AoTC they are not friends...then I would have to say no, I don't think she would just blindly entrust Obi-Wan with one of her children. She has to have a deeper connection with Obi-Wan beyond the fact both have a personal relationship with Anakin. I think what will happen is that as Anakin's behavior deteriorates, she will start confiding in him because he's the only other person who probably knows Anakin as well as her. Then Palpatine will use these little therapy sessions as a way to convince Anakin that there's some unscrupulous happenings between the two.
     
  20. anakin_girls_cat

    anakin_girls_cat Jedi Youngling

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    Posting in my Mommy's behalf here... ;)

    Old Juan: She doesn't exactly "blindly entrust" Luke to Obi-Wan. She trusts him to transport him from wherever she gives birth to Tatooine, to Owen and Beru. If she were going to "blindly entrust" Luke to him, why wouldn't she just have Obi-Wan raise him? I believe it was definitely her decision to have Owen and Beru raise him, not Obi-Wan's, since she knows them and Obi-Wan doesn't. Also, if she partially blames Obi-Wan for Anakin's fall, why would she start confiding in him and develop a friendship with him in such a way that Palpatine would be able to use it to manipulate Anakin into thinking something is going on? I would think that if she blamed Obi-Wan, she wouldn't want anything to do with him.

    a_g will walk out of the theater if there is an Othello-scenario, too...or I'll claw her when she gets home. ;) Too soap-opera-ish.
     
  21. Sophita

    Sophita Jedi Grand Master star 4

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    Next "the Childern are concieved out of a fit of angery passion (Ie rape but GL won't call it that") crowd will start chiming in...

    *shudders* Is it only me who finds that "Luke and Leia are concieved through rape" theory frightening? It seriously scares me that anyone would think-and choose-for Anakin to hurt Padme through such an act; even though it's well documented in AOTC that he loves her and respects her; that anyone would choose that theory just scares me because it's something the storyline doesn't even remotely hint to and is such a violent, degrading, horrible action....I really don't understand that theory...and to be honest, I don't think I want to.
     
  22. DamonD

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    I really wouldn't be able to reconcile the love Luke shows towards his father, and Anakin's eventual reciprocation of the that, to something like that. I really don't think Lucas will take that route.
     
  23. DarthBreezy

    DarthBreezy Chosen One star 6

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  24. anakin_girl

    anakin_girl Jedi Knight star 6

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    We had to re-open the Sanctuary in 3NSA instead of Community...new link is here.
     
  25. Old Juan

    Old Juan Jedi Master star 4

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    Anakin's girls cat,

    The situation I described above would happen before Anakin had completely turned. As Anakin's personality grows darker, Padme would ask Obi-Wan for advice thus allowing a real friendship to form. By getting to know Obi-Wan and his relationship to Anakin she would then realize that Anakin's whino comments were just that. There would be no suspicion of Obi-Wan's role on her part. But as of AoTC closes, she still doesn't know him.
     
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