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emperor's demise(Ep.3 SPOILER WARNING)

Discussion in 'Classic Trilogy' started by DarthAJ, Jan 1, 2005.

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  1. DarthAJ

    DarthAJ Jedi Padawan star 4

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    i was just wandering that you know how luke and vader were originally gonna fight on coruscaunt in a lava pit with the emperor.well wouldn't it be better for palpatine








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    to die in the lava by vader because in episode 3 anakin dies in lava?

    not that i'm saying the deathstar shaft ending wasn't good.

    For those who haven't read the original trilogy novellizations, Revenge of the Sith spoilers belong in the 3SA forum
     
  2. Brandon Rhea

    Brandon Rhea Manager Emeritus star 5 VIP - Former Mod/RSA

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    First off, no it wouldn't. Second that spoiler (which shouldnt even be here) hasnt even been confirmed. You should get your facts straight.
     
  3. DarthAJ

    DarthAJ Jedi Padawan star 4

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    about the spoiler not even being here it says on the rules you can post them as long as you give a warning and secondly just because it wasn't confirmed doesn't mean its not going to be in the film.

    besides not that many things have been confirmed that are real plot changing like him falling in lava

    so i assume that this going to happpen.
     
  4. Darth-Seldon

    Darth-Seldon Jedi Grand Master star 6

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    The original story was quite wild with Ben Kenobi getting involved and coming back to life (in some drafts.) I always found the concept of lava on the capital to be interesting, however it would not work with the PT version of the capital. Buildings of that size cannot stand on a foundation of lava (It is not lava in AOTC, it has been confirmed to be lights.)

    I'm quite content with the duel as it is. Simple but great.

    -Seldon
     
  5. DarthAJ

    DarthAJ Jedi Padawan star 4

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    i agree with you darth-seldon capital buildings couldn't be supported by lava.but it would of been pretty far down the surface maybe half a mile but i suppose that wouldn't work either. it could be underground in the outskirts like where we saw doooku and sidious at the end of AOTC

    but the ending is quite alright already
    i just thought it would be ironic if he died in the thing that made him create vader
     
  6. TwiLekJedi

    TwiLekJedi Pretty Ex-Mod star 10 VIP - Former Mod/RSA

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    CT Spoiler Policy - Please Read

    You read the wrong rules about "freely posting spoilers"...

    I only keep this open (oh, and, thanks Ghengis) because the spoiler thing was written a long time before the Prequels. But let's still keep them blacked-out.
     
  7. DarthyMarkyMark

    DarthyMarkyMark Jedi Padawan star 4

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    Fire imagery is something linked mainly to Anakin - the flickering light of Qui-Gon's funeral pyre when Obi-Wan tells Anakin he will train him, the fire in the corner as Anakin confesses his love to Padme, the fire in the tent when Shmi dies and Anakin takes his first step on the road to the Dark Side, and of course Vader's own funeral pyre at the end. It's there whenever there's a big change in Anakin's status or his story, when things transition. Fire is often used as a symbol of death and rebirth, and rebirth doesn't really apply to Palpatine as it does to Anakin. I think it's quite ironic that Palpatine is killed falling into the reactor shaft of his own Death Star, the symbol of his arrogance and lust for power, his contempt for life, and also of the cold, steely nature of the Empire.
     
  8. TwiLekJedi

    TwiLekJedi Pretty Ex-Mod star 10 VIP - Former Mod/RSA

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    I never realized the fire-thing. Cool.

    Speaking of "cool", by the same token it fits that Palpy dies in a very 'cold'/'cool' setting - not only the steely natured shaft, but also his own blue lightning.
    It seems a lot more cruel - which he deserves, of course.
     
  9. DarthyMarkyMark

    DarthyMarkyMark Jedi Padawan star 4

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    Yeah - Palpatine himself is about as cold a character as you can imagine. He has no compassion and no humanity at all, so for him to die in the steely grey of the reactor shaft with his own blue lightning flashing around him is a nice image.
     
  10. DarthAJ

    DarthAJ Jedi Padawan star 4

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    i never really relized that marky mark interesting find on the fire thing.Also you are right palpatine doesn't really have to do with anakin.And TwilekJedi it is interesting how palpatine dies cold because he is cold.
     
  11. TwiLekJedi

    TwiLekJedi Pretty Ex-Mod star 10 VIP - Former Mod/RSA

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    Yes. In fact, that post by MarkyMark is the best post of the year in CT so far! :D
     
  12. DarthyMarkyMark

    DarthyMarkyMark Jedi Padawan star 4

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    For about five minutes. ;) The theories on fire symbolism in the SW universe aren't new ones - I've just condensed them.

    Incidentally, I'm sure I remember that at the end of the RotJ radio drama, as Luke is burning Vader's body/armour (whenever GL decides for certain which one it is), he says something like "May the light of Anakin Skywalker be a beacon of hope for the future generations of Jedi", or something. So the fire image with Anakin is a phoenix-like image, one of rebirth and hope from despair. RotS will be the opposite, though. Fire can also symbolise hell.
     
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