Padme Amidala Episode 3 Dresses (Spoilers)

15:57:00 definitely looks like maternity clothes, or else for someone overweight. But the clothes are too nice to be a fat alien, I think. It sure does the trick of "concealing".

 

Finally! Some good costume stuff to sink our teeth into!

The blue dress seen on 8/11/03 15:42:20 reminds me a lot of the dress Padme seems to be wearing in scenes filmed on 7/9/03 10:10:40. Seeing this latest webcam shot of it, assumming it's the same one, only furthers my belief that it's a maternity dress. For those without Hyperspace, refer to spitsweet's rendering of the same dress I'm thinking of here: blue dress

The new costume liann speaks of is very interesting, indeed! I love the dark rich colors and textures of it. I agree the hooded robe does appear to be velvet with a silk or satin sash. The sleeves look full and the hood large, very concealing. I'm a little unsure of the colors though. At first glance I thought black robe, purple sash too. But looking at it more it seems like the velvet could almost be a very dark forest green and the sash a dark royal blue or a purple/blurple.
The underdress for this costume is wonderful, simple but detailed with a quilted diamond pattern. (If you don't have Hyperspace think of the *quilting* as being akin to that of the vest of Leia's Hoth costume except smaller diamond shapes.) There's only two scanty shots of this new costume that I know of and it's on a dressform, so my following thoughts on it are based on little real info, but, I think it looks like a one piece dress with, perhaps, an empire like waist. The bodice is sleeveless, can't see the neckline, but I would guess a *v* shape? The bodice fabric is unquilted.
The rest of the dress flows out from here, but flow probably isn't the best description as it looks like a somewhat heavier fabric and seems like it might keep its shape like the dress Padme wears in AOTC to meet with Jamilla.
It has somewhat of a modern flair to it, IMO, and also has that black/forest green sheen to it. Could just be that the lighting makes the black fabric look shiny and lighter that it really is. Hmmm....I don't know. Just looks like something I'd want to wear.

Another observation I've made about Padme's costumes, assumming that these are in fact for her, is that of the three I think I've seen:

(And again, I preface this by saying I have no real proof that the last two examples are indeed Padme's)

-Blue dress seen 7/9/03 10:10:40 and again (possibly same dress) 8/11/03 15:42:20

-New dark dress with velvet robe seen 8/11/03 15:57:00 and 15:57:40

-And a costume that was seen during filming last night that I *think* was on Padme, it looks sort of lavendar/pinkish to me, 8/12/03 8:50:20

is that they all appear to be sleeveless. The third example is really up for grabs since it was seen from quite a distance and I'm just *guessing* that it's sleeveless because it looks that way to me. I point this out only because I didn't really expect sleeveless dresses. But, I suppose if she is wearing these when out of the public's eye, then they would lend her pregnant figure a softness and a naturalness due to a soon to be mother.
Just speculating.

 

yay - lots of fun speculation!! Finally -seems like there was a huge lull in anything Padme related on the webcam!

The quilted underdress thing - when she lifts it off the dress form, you can see near the hem of it, and I see three lines that channels for hoops. Could the quilted thing be an undergarment? It seems awfully thick for that, but maybe it exists just to give the cloak body? That being said - the handmaidens seem to wear an awful lot of velvet cloaks. Maybe this is a handmaiden costume??

When I remove the yellow and greenish tinge the pics have with photoshop, it looks almost charcoal gray, but I could easily see it being a dark dark green, like Obi-Dawn suggests. The sash looks blue. And when the cloak/sash are on, I does look vaguely maternity.

As for the other shot, that one's got to be Padme! (How on earth did you guys spot that one - it's only one frame between set pics on the cam! ) It does look alot like Anthony's art - but also, if you compare it to 7/15 - 18:11:00 - which was the white costume in the workshop - possibly a muslin, it has a similar thing going on - sleeveless with the flowy things off the back. Could this be the same?

7/15 18:11:00 has more stuff draped on it and the belt added by 19:21:20 - the one I did the art of...

I want real pictures!!! I hope we start seeing some soon!!

Maggie

 

BTW, did anyone keep clicking after the robe/quilted dress costume was gone? They have some scary looking guy in what looks like a WWII gas mask and some sort of gun in front of the camera. I wonder what he is!!

Maggie

 

LOL! Maggie, I've been trying to figure out what the heck that scary looking guy is too! I've heard, or read, theories of him being an underwater clonetrooper but who knows. His costume just seems very weathered and or old. Anyway, it would be funny if he turned out to just be some dude in a fancy welding suit or something.

I had a fleeting thought of the dark costume as possibly being a handmaiden too. Alas, I'm so excited to see what Padme will wear that I think I'm trying to convince myself it's hers.
The underdress does have a bit of an undergarment feel to it. Probably why it seems sort of modern to me.

You know, I see the similarity between the blue dress and the white one from 7/15 18:11:00. The plot thickens!

 

Yeah - it's kind of wierd - because the blue costume does look like the one we saw on the webcam - but if it is that costume, it should have already been used and done with. Wierd! Also - is it my imagination, or at the bottom of that webcam shot does it look like the blue dress might have a split skirt?

I did a kind of rendering of the costume for non-Hyperspace folks - the blue one anyway..

http://www.padawansguide.com/padme3/speculation/maggie_bluewebcam.jpg

Maybe the guy in the mask is a scary sort of exterminator!

Oh - and Obi-Dawn - I looked at the other webcam shots of the "lavendar/pink" costume. The person wearing it is so small, it's hard to tell anything BUT I could almost convince myself that it's Padme in the Picnic costume from afar!! At least that's what I thought of!!

Maggie

 

Hmmmm...the area where we keep seeing the costumes and/or certain characters seems to be an area for photgraphing them. At least that's been my understanding of the general consensus from the webcam experts in the Episode III forum thread here and in the OS thread where it's referred to as the 'scanning chamber'. So, if in fact, they are taking reference scans of all the costumes, props, etc. it doesn't seem strange that said blue dress from 8/11 could be the same from filming in July.

As for a picnic dress cameo, are you just trying to tease me?
It is a small pic, but the context clues of the set indicate a man dressed like Typho, 3-PO, and a small framed woman with Obi-Wan walking in and out of the shot once in awhile which indicates a strong possibility that it is Padme and her dress looks looks lavendar/pinkish to me.
Anyone else see it? Thoughts?

We need real pics!

edit: Your rendering, Maggie, is great!

 

As for the other shot, that one's got to be Padme! (How on earth did you guys spot that one - it's only one frame between set pics on the cam! )

What are you guys talking about? 8-11, 8:50:20??? I don't see anything there except what could be the pool set.

 

Try 8/12/03 8:50:20 for what looks like a scene with Padme, 3-PO and Typho or some other Naboo like dressed dude sitting on a green screen prop. Probably will be a speeder of some sort. ?

 

ooooh I see! I had read the wrong date. Thanks Obi-Dawn.

If you advance the frames farther to 8:54:00 (on the 12th still) you see a Jedi...

 

Yeah, Obi-Wan appeared to be on set with them. There was another shot of Lucas and crew watching this same scene being filmed and Ewan walked past them in full Obi-Wan gear.

 

Thanks for the background about the scanning room, Obi-Dawn! It does make sense then that it would be a costume they were done shooting. Ack - I wonder which one it is!! It's got to be Padme!

That's interesting too about the other scene. Now that you point it out, Captain Typho is very recognizable. I believe you that it's Padme there too, I just wish we could see what she's wearing. I see pink or lavendar too- maybe peach. But I swear it made me think of the Picnic costume!!!


Maggie

 

that outfit Padme is wearing with C3P0 and captain typho almost looks like she's wearing pants when standing up and a fitted top that flares over her hips i'll take another look and see if I can find some timestamp. liann

 

Hey liannb!

I've been looking at that scene myself and I think I agree with you. 8/12/ at 8:56:40 has a great shot of someone in half a Threepio costume. One of the set diaries said that they found someone to fit the top half of the costume so it may not be Anthony Daniels.

At 8:49:00, I think Natalie's standing up..if that's her, it looks like pink jacket, white leggings, brown boots. Is that her at 8:48:20 too? I think you can see her at 8:46:40 standing with Typho and Threepio also. She's sitting again the frame right before at 8:46:20.

Maggie

 

Hey Maggie,

I just found that shot at 8:48:20 and came back and saw you had it too, that looks like her definatley, and as you said she looks like she's wearing boots, pants etc. It looks like she has her hair pulled back. I wish we could have had just one good shot of her at some point, but now she'd finished shooting. liann

 

Ok - just checked out the latest set diary and it describes the scene we've just been analyzing. Bad news is that the set diary says it's Natalie's last day of filming, which means no more shots of her on the webcam! Though of course we may still see her costumes in the scanning room.

The scene involved a landing platform and Typho, Threepio, Padme,and Obi-wan. The next scene was Padme and Threepio at the controls of a Naboo ship. You can't see the pilot's legs, so Anthony Daniels was only wearing half the suit. Unfortunately the set diary doesn't describe Nat's outfit!

Maggie

 

liannb - I just hope that soon behind the scenes pics or _something_ will come out showing Padme's costumes! It's still early for promotional pics! It seems to me that for Ep. II, the first Padme pics we had were spy pics of her in part of the white outfit, some spy pics from filming in Spain that showed the Travel outfit, but we haven't had any spy pics of her at all this time. Then there was the Ep. II select image of the Blue poncho Tatooine costume. What came after that I'm not sure except the Official Site feature on that costume came pretty early, which I remember being all excited about..

Maggie

 

Those two blue dresses the two of you had are pretty cool. We would be seeing maternity clothes probably, and those are both elegant which is good for Padme and seeing all the gowns she wears. I just can't wait to see what they have in store for Padme in Episode 3.

 

"All of this was just inspired by the conversation on red. If we want to base any outfit on the renaissance era (or around then) then I'll almost promise you that red is a major don't. As a member of a renaissance re-enacting group (as much as I love red) I would never be caught dead in it, at least while in garb.
Red was reserved strictly for the "ladies of the evening" and no woman would ever wear it as more than an accent color. "

hmmm.. as a studier of renaisance fashions I've never heard of this before. I've heard of yellow (Venetian o a set number of years) and a search doesn't bring anything up.

Is this for a certain year? Country? As it definately wasn't for Germany as you see red colours from wine to pink being worn by noble women.

And certainly not Italy as there are images of women who are not prostitutes wearing red... "Dogana in a red dress and golden robe;" is listed in Mores Italiae. ANd there is the lady in red by Bronzino.

I find red hair (doesn't work in Elizabethan england of course ), red silk lamps... all from different time periods too it has to be said.

And there are lots of recipies for red dye at drea Leed's Elizabethan COstuming site.
http://costume.dm.net/dyes/segreti.htm

And lots of red being mentioned .
http://costume.dm.net/lizcolor.html

And Jane Seymore wore a crimson red gown in her most famous portrait

And there is a stained glass window of Elizabeth in an absolutely stunning red:
http://www.tudorhistory.org/elizabeth/gallery.html
And in a frontispiece of a book:
http://www.tudorhistory.org/elizabeth/gallery2.html

It sounds very much like a ren faire custom,but if not I'd love to know the sources that suggest red as being for ladies of the night I'd love to do some further reading.

And now I really must see if I can get to the web cam I keep hearing about in this thread.

 

That's interesting Micaela - I was just watching the special on the wives of Henry VIII on PBS the other week and they had the actress playing Katherine Howard dressed in a very red gown. And the show seemed pretty well researched, so I don't think they would have done that if it weren't accurate to the period.

That was a great TV show - fun costumes in it! Though most of Henry's wives didn't have very fun lives - or deaths...

Maggie

 

Maggie, that is a wonderful show! I'm reading the companion book that goes along with it right now. Reading their true life stories is like reading a novel. Great book.

(It's by David Starkey and it's called Six Wives in case you're interested.)

 

According to the main page, all you lucky Hyperspace subscribers get the opportunity to chat with Trisha Biggar tonight at 5:00pm PST!!

So, what questions should be asked to try and get the most information from her?

 

On the Red Issue, I recall reading something under an old medieval painting of Mary Magdalen and some other New Testament characters (the usual objects of medieval art, like John the Baptist etc.) that mentioned the fact that she was depicted in a solid red gown because it denoted her as a fallen woman or (former) prostitute. I think the room I was in at the museum was 1100-1300? So perhaps the red taboo is from earlier times than pre-Tudor and Tudor. I'm just theorizing here.

As for you lucky Hyperspace subscribers - ask Trisha Biggar how she got the Episode I Parade Gown 'parasol' to attach and stay on at the back of the petal cape!

 

ah no way! I missed it? *cries*

 

Wow, I totally missed the chat as well The notice came in my email box well after the chat was already over.

Did anyone here participate in the chat, and do they post transcripts?

Edit - I now see they do have a transcript. I'm assuming I can paraphrase what was said in the chat. Trisha reiterated how the costumes are meant to disguise the fact that Padme is pregnant so that she can go on with her Senatorial duties. The costumes for the movie generally are are more muted, but not monotone. Someone asked which costume from Ep II took the longest to make. It was hard for her to recall, but she did mention that the 'Purple' Senate Dress (not to be confused with the purple senate dress with the flame cut velvet fabric and African inspired headdress) that was cut from the movie and can be seen in the extended DVD took a long time to make. Also the bridal dress with all of the beading.


-Kay Dee