Lit Fleet Junkie Flagship- The technical discussions of the GFFA (Capital Ships thread Mk. II)

It's the SW equivilent of the Wet Nellie from You Only Live Twice

Eh, it does'nt really look that much like a Darius-G (assuming the head is the same size as a Consular, which it looks to be, it would actually be much smaller too) so i'd say this is more likely supposed to be a different ship; perhaps an old Corellian cargo vessel thats a contemporary to the Consular, or maybe even just a heavily-modified Consular/c70.

And the back portion - to my eyes at least - looks far more like the center engine of a Consular then it does the engine portion of a Darius.


The D-G

The Consular

The Whatever It's Named-class Mining Guild Freighter

Well they did chose to keep Ezra out of the "ghosts of Jedis past" scene

When I saw the purrgils I immedatly wondered what they tasted like...

Oh come on, don't the rest of you act like you have'nt either!

 

Then why did they go through every ship and update their visuals, even though pretty much all of them would be in the background? Obviously, the Rebels models weren't good enough. Same with the Resistance ones.

Cool?

 

The cartoon ship cg models were adjusted to look more realistic. They are not new models. Why they felt the need to do that even for the ships that only appeared as distant blurry specks? Who knows?

 

Probobly becuse, as Blackhole says, the CGI models from both Rebels and Resistance would stand out sharply next to the more "realistic" models built for the ST films - the Resistance models especially would look like a charecter from the Borderlands games transposed into Fallen Order if left unaltered.

It's possible that some work already had to be done to make them compadible for whatever program the films were running vs the ones they were created for*, so they decided to upgrade the apperences of the more distant ships while they were at it since they were already there.

(*for instance ILM's own work creating new ship models for ST First Contact had to be compeletly re-done from scratch when it was decided to put those designs on TV in ST DS9 becuse the program ILM used to create them was'nt compadible with the software being used by the studio responsable for DS9's CG)

Yeah well, I hate sand...

 

They weren't just 'adjusted' though. They were completely overhauled. And upgrading something that's simple with a lot of hard edges like a ship is a lot easier than doing the same with something that's organic.

Source: I've literally done it.

 

If the question is "if they were willing to do this for the ships, why not for the purgills?" then the best answer is that a few scattered ships that are blink-and-you'll-miss them easter eggs for the watchers of Resistance and Rebels makes more sense then some space whales that it is just going to make 90 percent of the audiance go "hu?"

A person who does'nt know what the Ghost or the Fireball are will still understand that they are ships and get why they are present in the context of Lando's mission, while a person who does'nt know what a Purgill was or how Ezra used them in Rebels would just be left scratching their head and asuming they missed something.

 

I mean, I kinda already said that in my original post, although it was more about how, even for the people who know about Ezra, it doesn't make sense.

In the post you quoted, I was specifically talking about the technical needs of a purgill model compared to standard ship models.

 

I had missed that you had said that, that's my bad - apologies.

 

So, they said 55 new ship designs, we have only seen 20 new designs. Question: Which store and DVD set will come with the featurette showing all 55 models? I gotta buy it.

 

Apparently TROS’s digital release has been moved to today for the USA. Eagerly waiting for screen caps

 

Whatever the Consulmining thing is, meh, missed chance for the DP20 that that first shot made us think we *almost* had, up there with all its many design descendants (although I guess there's no clear evidence that there are any examples of the Consular itself).

Relatedly, good to see Consulars back in action on TCW, and hey... eight actual new episodes about to start... possible new designs, and certainly some upgraded animation being applied to the old classics (dig the Separatist ship action from the fourth episode).

 

Curious they haven't used any legends designs, I mean why reinvent the wheel.... unless you find designing new spaceships loads of fun! Yep think I just answered my own statement. Gotta say I do have job envy right now

 

Move this to here (sorry for the late replay):

How did Tantive IV and the Medical Frigate have a worn and scuffed? Asking since I don't really remember them as that

What has them being grey and their models having a kitbash origin have to do with it?

 

Because they look dull and lack clean lines.

 

Both have a very dirty astetic, with grimy, worn hulls and (in the case of the CR90) faded paint. Contrast this to the prestine hulls of the Star Destroyers.

 

So it looks like the official novelization is not giving us any real information on the makeup of the galaxy fleet.

Beyond disappointed!!

Why would it be so hard to have a page dedicated to the make up of the different fleet units?

 

Apparently the the Target exclusive RoS package contains a VFX featurette titled "A Final Alliance," which covers the battle of Exegol. There's a decent chance we'll see more 3D renders from there.

 

Keep an eye on artstation.com for artists and vfx people displaying their IX related work the first already did. In general lots of art and vfx stuff on that site for all things sw, be it movies, tv, games, comics, rpg art etc. its a goldmine!

 

I mean obviusly the fleet is made up entirely of entire galaxies, what's so hard to understand

 

My assumption came from the fact that a "Mining Guild Freighter from Resistance" was said to have appeared in IX in this article https://www.starwars.com/news/buckets-list-extra-the-escape-part-2-star-wars-resistance; I have personally watched very little of Resistance but the Darius-G is the closest ship to this freighter that I know of.

EDIT: on another topic, this is from the novel.

 

...is that it? Any mention of MC85’s? No other cameos?

 

I’ve tried to stay positive during this fiasco of a trilogy. But I’m really surprised that Rae Carson would choose NOT to flush out the details on the galaxy fleet (where they came from, ship classes, the battle itself, etc)

This is the “expanded edition”. How hard would it have been to dedicate a couple of pages to this. This is why The Unifying Force is a GREAT book, whereas TROS novelization is not

 

You're making a lot of assumptions based on a one page of text. I'm sure she describes the battle.

As for ship names? Some authors do that, some authors don't. (How many books just say something like "Separatist cruiser" or "Republic frigate" instead of actually saying what the ship is?) Doesn't make it a bad book because it didn't answer all our nerdy questions about the fleet.

 

Let's not forget NJO and LOTF only using designations "Star Destroyer", "Destroyer", "Cruiser", "Carrier", "Frigate", "Corvette", "Gunship" or "Picket" and leaving us all in the dark over what specific ships were much of the time. What ships got any actual proper classes. I should make a list.

Imperial-class Star Destroyers (Mark I & Mark II)
- Rejuvenator (Vector Prime) -- destroyed
- Chimaera (Dark Tide II: Ruin, Force Heretic I: Remnant)
- Right to Rule (Force Heretic I: Remnant, Force Heretic III: Reunion, The Unifying Force)
- Relentless (Force Heretic I: Remnant, Force Heretic III: Reunion)
- Mon Mothma (Star by Star, Enemy Lines I: Rebel Dream, Enemy Lines II: Rebel Stand, The Final Prophecy, The Unifying Force)
- Elegos A'Kla (Star by Star, The Unifying Force)
- Rebel Dream (Enemy Lines I: Rebel Dream, Enemy Lines II: Rebel Stand, The Unifying Force)
- Superior (Enemy Lines I: Rebel Dream) -- destroyed
- Anakin Solo (Bloodlines, Tempest, Exile, Sacrifice, Inferno, Fury, Revelation, Invincible)
- Harbinger (Invincible)
- Erinnic (Agents of Chaos I: Hero's Trial)
- Errant Venture (Edge of Victory I: Conquest, Edge of Victory II: Rebirth, Star by Star, Enemy Lines I: Rebel Dream, Enemy Lines II: Rebel Stand, The Unifying Force)

Victory-class Star Destroyers (Mark I & II)
- Corusca Fire (Dark Tide I: Onslaught)
- Protector (Dark Tide II: Ruin)
- Protector (Force Heretic I: Remnant) *
- Admiral Ackbar (The Unseen Queen, The Swarm War, Tempest)
- Taanab Sunrise (Dark Tide II: Ruin)
- Red Harvest (Dark Tide II: Ruin)

MC80B Star Cruisers
- Mon Adapyne (Destiny's Way, The Unifying Force)

Mediator-class battle cruisers
- Mediator (Vector Prime)

Viscount-class Star Defenders
- Viscount (Vector Prime, The Unifying Force)
- Bounty (Sacrifice, Revelation)

Proficient-class light cruisers
- Soothfast (Agents of Chaos I: Hero's Trial)

Quasar Fire-class cruiser-carriers
- Thurse (Agents of Chaos I: Hero's Trial)

Bothan Assault Cruisers
- Ralroost (Dark Tide I: Onslaught, Dark Tide II: Ruin, Edge of Victory II: Rebirth, Destiny's Way, Ylesia, The Unifying Force)
- Champion (Balance Point)

Executor-class Star Dreadnoughts
- Lusankya (Enemy Lines I: Rebel Dream, Enemy Lines II: Rebel Stand) -- destroyed

Dreadnaught-class heavy cruisers
- Starsider (Destiny's Way, Ylesia, The Unifying Force)

Immobilizer 418 cruisers
- Corusca Rainbow (Dark Tide II: Ruin)
- Memory of Ithor (The Final Prophecy)
- Olovin (The Final Prophecy)

Ranger-class gunships
- Justice (The Final Prophecy)

Hapan Battle Dragons
- Dragon Queen (Tempest, Invincible)
- Kendall (The Joiner King, Tempest)
- Song of War (Agents of Chaos II: Jedi Eclipse)

Galactic-class battle carriers
- Dodonna (Betrayal, Exile)

Mon Calamari heavy carriers
- Blue Diver (Betrayal, Exile, Sacrifice)

Lancer-class frigates
- Whip Hand (Destiny's Way)
- Pride of Selonia (Force Heretic I: Remnant, Force Heretic II: Refugee, Force Heretic III: Reunion)

Republic-class cruisers
- Far Thunder (Destiny's Way)

Probably missing alot as I'm working from memory.

Always been of the opinion though that Garm Bel Iblis' Harbinger was a Mediator-class battle cruiser, Bail Organa was an Imperial-class Star Destroyer like Mon Mothma and Elegos A'Kla (and was destroyed at Coruscant), Captain Kartha's Pulsar was a Ranger-class gunship (which are essentially newer versions of the famous DP20 line), Vortex Wind is an MC80B Star Cruiser and Spritespray is a Belarus-class medium cruiser.